God is confirming His NT warnings through His prophets/watchmen

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If a person believes that justification is by faith apart from works, then he doesn't do works in order to be saved, but rather puts his faith in Chris to save him.

Would you say that putting your faith in Christ means to do as he told us to do?
So you're saying that you yourself don't understand what you yourself wrote

Of course I understand what I wrote, I also understand when it came right down to posting everything clearly, in order, and for all to see, your accusations would not hold up as every twist would be completely obvious, the very reason you choose not to answer my attempt to get you to clarify. But, hey, thanks just the same.
 
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If you have verses, please share
I already referenced it .
I said read peters letters
Goodness they are only a few snall pages long. He never wrote them in chapter or verse.
It takes less time probably then watching 1 3rd of your favorite worldly tv show.
 
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I already referenced it .
I said read peters letters
Goodness they are only a few snall pages long. He never wrote them in chapter or verse.
It takes less time probably then watching 1 3rd of your favorite worldly tv show.
I’m not a mind reader.
 
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Many BACs today pass over all kinds of spiritual Truths, which God has given to them for all kinds of reasons, not the least of which is to get them to heaven! However, co-operation and obedience is required!

And:

2 Corinthians 3:6
And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

Hebrews 7:22
Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.

Hebrews 8:6
Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises.

Hebrews 9:15
Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
 
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And:

2 Corinthians 3:6
And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

Hebrews 7:22
Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.

Hebrews 8:6
Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises.

Hebrews 9:15
Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Notice the word covenant in those sentances?
How many parties are in covenant?
Yup... 2
And both must abide by the covenant..
If obe ignores it ..they are no longer in it
 
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Hi, sis. Be open. Believing in only a pre-trib rapture sets you up for disaster if it is not true. You will be taken off guard.
I choose to be ready to go through the tribulation, even to the point of losing my head, and if I get raptured before the tribulation, that will be great. Tribulation is not wrath - first mistake of pre-trib. teachers. The letters to the seven churches gives us advice to just be a Philadelphian type believer, and even if you will be here during the tribulation, you will be "kept" from the terrors of it, just as the children of Israel were present during the plagues, but kept from them.
Several people who say they hear from God
(I won't call them prophets/watchmen any more),
are saying that His "remnant" believers who have been practicing righteousness, who are faithful, sanctified unto holiness, etc. will be the first fruits taken up in a pre-trib rapture; and those left behind who do the blue will be divinely protected and provided for during the reign of the antichrist.

It's the old story ...
God is only pleased with those who do da blue!
Don't mean to make a joke of it.
 
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Surely you believe the 11 faithful apostles who were with Jesus in John 15 were born again?
In John 15:1+, Jesus is talking to all BACs for all time.
It's all about "Every branch in Me ..." (John 15:2)
 
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God showed me in the dream that the church I was going to was nothing more than a social club and wasn't a first century modeled CHURCH.
What percentage of North American churches
are first century modeled churches? ... 1%
 
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The eleven received the Spirit in John 20 without which they weren't born again. The other 120 didn't receive the Spirit to be born again until the Day of Pentecost ...
Again, I repeat that the 120 were born-again ...
BEFORE the staggering events on the day of pentecost.

In Acts 1:15 they are called disciples or believers.
In Acts 2:1 they are called "they" or believers.
... Depending on your Bible version ...
The NLT calls them "believers" in both verses,
which is what they were!
 
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What percentage of North American churches
are first century modeled churches? ... 1%
Is this your opinion or do you have reputable resources that have studied the facts and concluded this?

Also, what is the definition you are using to determine the criteria or what constitutes a “first century modeled church”?
 
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