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Was 1948 the Regathering of Israel in Bible Prophecy?

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Well this is what you say. Does the Bible say every human is a Jew?

It says that Jewishness was and is irrelevant spiritually. (Genesis 17:12; Romans 2:28,29; Galatians 3:28,29; Ephesians 2:14-16; Colossians 3:10,11). That irrelevance is further confirmed today by genetic ubiquity.
 
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But surely you believe in the existence of a Jewish people? Distinguishable from Gentiles?
I call myself a New Zealander, the majority of the people who inhabit the State of Israel call themselves Jews. Genetically, there is no difference between us both, because neither the 'Jews' or I can prove our ancestry back to Jacob.
Other posters here have shown you that in God's eyes, His people are those who have faith in Him, the rest are all the godless masses.
 
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Except in this case, I was already winning.

Then you must have cut Jeremiah 31:31-34 out of your Bible.

That passage contains the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.

Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant, John Nelson Darby's Two Peoples of God doctrine falls apart.



The New Covenant: Bob George

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I call myself a New Zealander, the majority of the people who inhabit the State of Israel call themselves Jews. Genetically, there is no difference between us both, because neither the 'Jews' or I can prove our ancestry back to Jacob.
Other posters here have shown you that in God's eyes, His people are those who have faith in Him, the rest are all the godless masses.

So then, you would also affirm, Hitler never did kill 6 million Jews. You would also disagree with Luke, who distinguished between Jews and God-fearing Gentiles (Greeks). According to you, there is no distinction. Luke should not have separated them.

As I mentioned, bad theology has consequences.
 
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It says that Jewishness was and is irrelevant spiritually. (Genesis 17:12; Romans 2:28,29; Galatians 3:28,29; Ephesians 2:14-16; Colossians 3:10,11). That irrelevance is further confirmed today by genetic ubiquity.

Ah, so there are Jews, then, it's just not an indicator of spiritual standing? Correct? Because you said earlier every human was a Jew. Now you seem to be saying otherwise. Do you have this story straight yet?
 
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Ah, so there are Jews, then, it's just not an indicator of spiritual standing? Correct? Because you said earlier every human was a Jew. Now you seem to be saying otherwise. Do you have this story straight yet?

What is your standard?

Was Sammy Davis Jr. Jewish, if he was an African-American who converted to Orthodox Judaism?

Or is somebody Jewish if they have a remote Jewish ancestor?

Or does somebody have to be an Orthodox Jew, and have a Jewish ancestor to be "Jewish", by your standard?



Do you care what Paul said in Titus 3:9, or are you trying to ignore it?

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Ah, so there are Jews, then, it's just not an indicator of spiritual standing? Correct? Because you said earlier every human was a Jew. Now you seem to be saying otherwise. Do you have this story straight yet?

Do you understand the difference between genetics, and religion and culture; yet?
 
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Do you understand the difference between genetics, and religion and culture; yet?

Do you? Cuz you've said all kinds of crazy things, holocaust denial among them. You can't even bring yourself to say Hitler killed 6 million Jews without then saying in the same breath all humans are Jews, and there's not distinction. Your theology has utterly confused you.
 
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Do you? Cuz you've said all kinds of crazy things. You can't even bring yourself to say Hitler killed 6 million Jews without then saying in the same breath all humans are Jews. Your theology has utterly confused you.

Yeah, the Jewish community that you profess to love is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews. Including yourself.
Genetics is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews.
Including yourself.
Mathematics is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews.
Including yourself.

Welcome to crazy. Truth can be crazy.
 
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The Bible says jewishness doesn't matter in the first place, so I find that a little hard to believe.

This is a lie. It says nothing of the sort. God loves Israel and will redeem his nation. We see this all throughout the Old and New Testaments.
 
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Yeah, the Jewish community that you profess to love is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews. Including yourself.
Genetics is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews.
Including yourself.
Mathematics is crazy. It tells us all humans are Jews.
Including yourself.

Truth can be crazy.

LOL! Notice all your authorities are extra biblical. You make my point. Let God be true and every man a liar. I'll trust the Bible over all your human wisdom.
 
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This is a lie. It says nothing of the sort. God loves Israel and will redeem his nation. We see this all throughout the Old and New Testaments.

Perhaps you could tell me whom God does NOT love? Which nation(s) did God NOT create? If jewishness matters, per your "standard", the Bible, then I assume it is also throughout the NT and OT whom God does NOT love as well
 
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Perhaps you could tell me whom God does NOT love? Which nation(s) did God NOT create? If jewishness matters, per your "standard", the Bible, then I assume it is also throughout the NT and OT whom God does NOT love as well

Wow, so you even deny that Israel was God's son, his special created nation? And you don't believe God hated any nations? Edom?

You believe all nations have equal sonship before God?

I'm starting to see the damage this theological scheme has on people. It's robing you of the blessing of truth. Bad theology has consequences.
 
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