Why is evolution taught in our schools?

[tas8831]

say a perfect idenity.

Then it IS a penguin.

Be sure to let us know when creation scientists have created this 100% identical robot penguin, complete with real cells made from organic molecules and the like.

Until then, please understand that your thought experiments are silly and naive and irrelevant as to whether or not your favorite deity is real.

Odd, though, that you did not address this question:

"How would this 'identical'-ness be measured or catalogued?"

 

[tas8831]

Please just tell me how the Universe started, and how life originated apart from God then!

Tell us how life was created by God! Details, please! A bible verse or a mere assertion will not do! We are adults, here, and we want EVIDENCE!

 

[tas8831]

You mean like the Roman historian who recorded His life and death, and that His followers saw Him as now being alive again?

Which Roman historian was that? Oh, you mean the guy who 'recorded' it all decades after the fact based on hearsay?

 

[DogmaHunter]

do you agree that a robot that is identical to a penguin is evidence for design?

Ow dear lord, no............ not the robot penguins again.

For crying out loud...........................................................................................................

Xiangua's argument against evolution.......

Most facepalming moment in all the time I've spend on this forum, by far!

 

[DogmaHunter]

say a perfect idenity.

How do you tell the difference between a natural penguin and an identical non-natural penguin?

 

[AV1611VET]

Tell us how life was created by God!

God spoke and life appeared.

Details, please!

God spoke and it happened.

A bible verse or a mere assertion will not do!

But you can invoke God, right?

We are adults, here, and we want EVIDENCE!

EVIDENCE is unique to science, not God.

God doesn't have to work within the confines of science.

We call those things He did "miracles."

 

[AV1611VET]

How do you tell the difference between a natural penguin and an identical non-natural penguin?

A natural penguin would have blemishes.

A penguin created by God would not.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Prove its not a religion.

+200.000 peer reviewed science papers on the subject, each detailing their own share of independently verifiable evidence.

Its illogical for you to expect anyone to believe you because "You said so."

Not a single scientist, biologist or otherwise, has EVER expected anyone to "just believe" what they say. It's kind of the whole point of the scientific method... that people are NEVER to be "just believed".

Circular reasoning is not a wise debating technique but you chose that path.

It sounds like you don't really know what circular reasoning is, because the post you are replying to did anything but that....

Tell me, does an atheist believe there is no God?

No.
Wait, let me be more accurate...

Some atheists might believe that. I'm not aware of any, but I'm sure they are out there. However, that's not what defines their atheism.

Atheism is not the belief that there are no gods.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Where does morality and logic come from?

Brains.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Agreed. They stand on and use biblical principals such as morality and logic but then deny it in the next breath.

The bible is the very last book I'ld pick up to tell me about morality.
I can honestly say that I (and along with me, most of the citizens of the world) hold a superior moral compass then the one exhibited in the bronze age bible.

 

[DogmaHunter]

So why do all the atheists spend so much time trying to disprove what they firmly say "does not exist"?

I'm actually not aware of any atheist who's trying to "disprove" unfalsifiable entities.
Can you point me to one? Don't forget to also show how that person is trying to "disprove" unfalsifiable entities.

If God does not exist like you say you believe

I don't remember him saying that at all.
Care to provide a link to a post where he says that?

, then why would someone even spend one second of their life trying to convince themselves of something's non-existence? Where is the logic in that? By your own submission its illogical...

This is just building on the previous strawmen, so yea....

 

[DogmaHunter]

God spoke and life appeared. God spoke and it happened

What did he say? Was it "abracadabra" by any chance?

EVIDENCE is unique to science, not God.

QFT

God doesn't have to work within the confines of science.

Or logic. Or natural laws.
Neither does Merlin the Wizard.

We call those things He did "miracles."

Miracles, magic,...

pot8to, potaaato

 

[AV1611VET]

The bible is the very last book I'ld pick up to tell me about morality.

From your profile:

Confronted with a bible the first time at 17. Read it cover to cover in a week ...

Do you really expect me to believe that?

What was it? the Reader's Digest codensed version?

 

[AV1611VET]

What did he say?

What does it matter what He said?

Was it "abracadabra" by any chance?

No, Mr ReadtheBiblecovertocover, here's what He said:

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Neither does Merlin the Wizard.

Miracles, magic,...

pot8to, potaaato

I think I asked you this once before, but whatever:

Do you hunt [our] dogma to ridicule it, or because you have an honest *cough* academic quest?

I suspect both:

You have an academic spirit to find out what we believe, so you can please your inner spirits (muses) by ridiculing it.

Just like most other academians on earth.

 

[46AND2]

From your profile:
Do you really expect me to believe that?

What was it? the Reader's Digest codensed version?

Why is that an unreasonable claim? An above average reader reads about 300 words per minute. At that rate, one could polish off the Bible in about 44 hours. I've spent that much time and more reading in a week before.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why is that an unreasonable claim? An above average reader reads about 300 words per minute. At that rate, one could polish off the Bible in about 44 hours. I've spent that much time and more reading in a week before.

Then it's no wonder you didn't get anything from It, as evidenced by your very basic line of questioning.

Do you remember what color Jesus' words were?

ETA: Sorry, I thought I was talking to DogmaHunter, who seems to have gone silent on me.

I wonder why?

 

[46AND2]

Then it's no wonder you didn't get anything from It, as evidenced by your very basic line of questioning.

Do you remember what color Jesus' words were?

I didn't say I read it in a week.

 

[AV1611VET]

I didn't say I read it in a week.

Yes, I know.

I had you mixed up with DogmaHunter.

Rhetorical question: Do you believe he read the Bible in a week?

 

[AV1611VET]

* media *

Trying to impress me (or those nine others)? or both?

 

[46AND2]

Trying to impress me (or those nine others)? or both?

Just thought it would be a funny response. Note to self: AV has his sense of humor turned off today.