WHO IS GOD'S TRUE CHURCH ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD?

[Karola]

God's WORD says;

1 JOHN 2:1-4
[1], My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2], And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

NOTE: The reason these scriptures were written by JOHN he says is that we do not sin. If we do sin we have an advocate with the father JESUS. The emphasis in v3-4 in on continuing in known sin. This is further discussed and outlined in 1 JOHN 3:3-9

1 JOHN 3:3-10
[3], And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
[4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5], And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6], Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
[7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?

REVELATION 12:17, And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

REVELATION 14:12, Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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WHO ARE THOSE THAT RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

REVELATION 22:14, Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


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WHO HAS GOD'S SPIRIT?

ACTS 5:32, And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THEM WHO OBEY HIM.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

But you said if anyone knowingly is breaking any of God's commandments they do not know God. If you do not know God you cannot be a Christian can you. So if you only commit unknown sin how can you go to your advocate, Christ concerning sin you know nothing about? How can a Christian repent of any sin?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

But you said if anyone knowingly breaks any of God's commandments they do not know God. If you do not know God you cannot be a Christian can you. So if you only commit unknown sin how can you go to your advocate, Christ concerning sin you know nothing about? How can a Christian repent of any sin?

Sorry for any misunderstanding, maybe I did not explain myself well enough. In most posts I provide the emphasis is on KNOWN UNREPENTANT sin. Not an occasional sin that you can seek God in repentance and forgiveness as highlighted already in the previous post provided which says...

1 JOHN 2:1-4
[1], My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2], And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

NOTE: The reason these scriptures were written by JOHN he says is that we do not sin. If we do sin we have an advocate with the father JESUS. The emphasis in v3-4 in on continuing in known unrepentant sin. This is further discussed and outlined in 1 JOHN 3:3-9

Hope this helps.

 

[Karola]

Sorry for any misunderstanding, maybe I did not explain myself well enough. In most posts I provide the emphasis is on KNOWN UNREPENTANT sin. Not an occasional sin that you can seek God in repentance and forgiveness as highlighted already in the previous post provided which says...

1 JOHN 2:1-4
[1], My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2], And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

NOTE: The reason these scriptures were written by JOHN he says is that we do not sin. If we do sin we have an advocate with the father JESUS. The emphasis in v3-4 in on continuing in known sin. This is further discussed and outlined in 1 JOHN 3:3-9

Hope this helps.

No need to apologise, we all make mistakes at times in our wording of posts

 

[Cis.jd]

Hello brother Cis.jd, please have a look at this post and the scripture linked. This is mainly on HEBREWS 10 which outlines what some of the Shadow laws are.

Take also a look at the following scriptures which I encourage you to read the chapters also...

COLOSSIANS 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

HEBREWS 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, says he, that you make all things according to the pattern showed to you in the mount.

Thank you for your response my friend. It's good to see that you are well prepared to answer these things.

Anyway, I think I get what you meant by "Shadow Laws". If you don't mind, based on Col 2:17: what is the word "shadow" used for? It does say meat, drinks, new moon, sabbath where "a shadow of things to come... also, the word "body" in your verse is "reality" in mine: "the reality of Christ".
I am not disputing your post, but i would just like to know what you think shadow means, because this word is used for many different descriptions.

Also, can you please quote the Acts 8:30-31? Thanks.

 

[Karola]

That's a great question.
Do the Jews recognize "shadow laws"?

Personally I think it is a waste of time arguing about which laws God wants you to follow, those laws are written in your heart and mind, and I do not subscribe to the view that: Through the law you may or may not become conscious of sin. But that's just me I guess

 

[JLB777]

Well that has no truth in it brother. This was answered in this post here click me with scripture your simply repeating yourself.


Indeed, Paul teaches that no one enters into God's rest without BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD in HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4 and concludes the matter by saying...

HEBREWS 4:9 So then, it remains for the people of God to keep the Sabbath.

Jesus taught us a lot about how to correctly keep God's 4th commandment Sabbath.

MATTHEW 12:1-12
[1], At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the grain field; and his disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the ears of grain, and to eat.
[2], But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, your disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
[3], But he said unto them, Have you not read what David did, when he was hungry, and they that were with him;
[4], How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them who were with him, but only for the priests?
[5], Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
[6], But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
[7], But if you had known what this means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the guiltless.
[8], For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
[9], And when he was departed from there, he went into their synagogue:
[10], And, behold, there was a man who had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
[11], And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
[12], How much then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

and again Jesus taugh that he is the creator God and LORD and owner of the SABBATH.

MARK 2:27-28 [27], And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: [28], Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Jesus also warned us after his death in the end days...

MATTHEW 24:20 But pray you that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day

Seems a funny thing to say to the disciples don't you think if it was abolished at the cross like you said earlier?

Then we have PAUL and all the Apostles who kept the SABBATH commandment with both JEWS and GENTILE believers *ACTS 13:14-14; 42;44; ACTS 16:13; ACTS 17:1-2; ACTS 18:4-5. JESUS and PAUL and the APOSTLES were all our examples and all obeyed and kept God's 4th Commandment as a HOLY DAY.

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As I have carefully gone through all your posts and answered all your questions section by section don't you think it only fair brother if you answer the questions I have asked you? I have asked you many questions you have simply ignored but in return you expect me to answer all of your questions which I have politely done for you. You have also simply chosen to ignore my posts and the scripture in them that disagree with you. Now I do not mind either way, but if you wish to continue the discussion then please answer my questions. If you cannot then we will have to agree to disagree as we are not really having a discussion are we.

Where does it say in God's WORD? (Scripture please)

1. That God's 4th commandments 7th day Sabbath has been abolished?

2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

If you cannot answer any of the above, who should we obey God or man? Something to seriously pray about my dear friends.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

If we brake any of God's commandments it is showing we do not LOVE God or our fellow man...

Thie is why Jesus says....... If you LOVE me keep my COMMANDMENTS (John 14:15;15:10)

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Still afraid to answer even one of these questions?


Come on now, if you love God’s word, why are you afraid to answer even one of these questions.

• Do you believe it’s a sin to go to Church on Sunday rather than Saturday?

• Do you believe it’s a sin to work on Saturday?

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles command the Church to assemble for a Church service on the Sabbath?

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles command the Church to do no work on the Sabbath.

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles give specific instructions as to how the Church is observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant.

JLB

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Thank you for your response my friend. It's good to see that you are well prepared to answer these things.

Anyway, I think I get what you meant by "Shadow Laws". If you don't mind, based on Col 2:17: what is the word "shadow" used for? It does say meat, drinks, new moon, sabbath where "a shadow of things to come... also, the word "body" in your verse is "reality" in mine: "the reality of Christ".
I am not disputing your post, but i would just like to know what you think shadow means, because this word is used for many different descriptions.

Also, can you please quote the Acts 8:30-31? Thanks.

Hello brother Cis.jd, nice to see you again. The Shadow laws are outlined in more scriture detail in some of the earlier posts here..

1. COL 2:11-17 part 1 linked click me.
2. COL 2:11-17 part 2 linked click me.https://www.christianforums.com/thr...ng-to-gods-word.8086202/page-40#post-73313576
3. HEBREWS 10 Shadow laws linked click me.

But very simply the Shadow laws are from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that pointed to JESUS and GOD's plan of salvation under the NEW COVENANT (e.g. Animal sacrifices, burnt offerings and sin offerings and some of the annual festivals). Take a look when yo get some time brother at the scriptures provided in the linked posts above as they link the origin of the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures PAUL is discussing and shows how they link to the NEW TESTAMENT writings.

Hope this is helpful. I may have to go for a while but will be back a little latter.

God bless brother Cis.jd.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Still afraid to answer even one of these questions? Come on now, if you love God’s word, why are you afraid to answer even one of these questions. JLB

I am sorry brother it seems we will have to agree to disagree as your ignoring the posts, scriptures and questions provided to you and you will you respond to my posts. You are free to believe as you wish I do not judge you. We all answer only to God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

 

[Ken Rank]

That's good, "... a whole lot of dancing around..."

The whole law is a shadow, not just the parts they want to do away with.

Hebrews 10:1
The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. ...

I would suggest this isn't the whole law and rather the sacrificial system, the sacrificial side of the law.

I don't desire to get into this debate... so I will just share a thought and move on.

I can take the Feasts (Sabbath, Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Shavuot/Pentecost, Trumpets, Kippur and Sukkot/Tabernacles) and show you aspects of Christ's work we simply are not taught in the church because we have been raised to look down on these things. But they point to work he did, work he is still doing by the spirit, and work yet to come. I have an article on the topic that isn't all that long that breaks down each feast revealing Christ...anyone curious I will be happy to share it with. Now, at the same time, the sacrifices did renew the covenant between God and Israel (when they sinned) but it was never the eternal answer that Christ is... instead it was designed to point to him. Now listen please... there were MANY people who claimed to be messiah in that day... how do we know we got the right one? He told us... "Search the Scriptures (at that time only the Torah and Prophets were canon) for in them you think you have eternal life, but they are they which testify of me!" Do the do's and don'ts in the law like not coveting and not stealing, refraining from same sex relationships (and so forth) did not point to him... that is simply God's instructions book for His people. But the feasts and offerings and sacrifices... they ALL point to him. THAT is how we know HE is messiah because HE and HE ALONE did the things they point to.

 

[JLB777]

I am sorry brother it seems we will have to agree to disagree as your ignoring the posts, scriptures and questions provided to you and you will you respond to my posts. You are free to believe as you wish I do not judge you. We all answer only to God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

I have read through your posts sir and you have not answered one single question I have asked.

Just ridiculous!


Everyone in this thread can see all you have done is copy and past the same ole thing while avoiding my questions.


Can you answer even one of these questions?


Just one.

• Do you believe it’s a sin to go to Church on Sunday rather than Saturday?

• Do you believe it’s a sin to work on Saturday?

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles command the Church to assemble for a Church service on the Sabbath?

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles command the Church to do no work on the Sabbath.

• Do you have any scriptures where Jesus or His Apostles give specific instructions as to how the Church is observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant.

JLB

 

[Cis.jd]

Hello brother Cis.jd, nice to see you again. The Shadow laws are outlined in more scriture detail in some of the earlier posts here..

1. COL 2:11-17 part 1 linked click me.
2. COL 2:11-17 part 2 linked click me.
3. HEBREWS 10 Shadow laws linked click me.

But very simply the Shadow laws are from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that pointed to JESUS and GOD's plan of salvation under the NEW COVENANT (e.g. Animal sacrifices, burnt offerings and sin offerings and some of the annual festivals). Take a look when yo get some time brother at the scriptures provided in the linked posts above as they link the origin of the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures PAUL is discussing and shows how they link to the NEW TESTAMENT writings.

Hope this is helpful. I may have to go for a while but will be back a little latter.

God bless brother Cis.jd.

Thanks, you've shown me these already and I have looked at them. Now can you please quote
Acts 8:30-31?

I believe I do have some verses that can assist you, but I would like you to take a look at this first one.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I have read through your posts sir and you have not answered one single question I have asked. Just ridiculous!Everyone in this thread can see all you have done is copy and past the same ole thing while avoiding my questions. Can you answer even one of these questions? Just one. JLB

I am sorry brother your just repeating yourself again. It seems we will have to agree to disagree as your ignoring the posts, scriptures and questions provided to you and you will not respond to my posts. You are free to believe as you wish I do not judge you. We all answer only to God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

I have spent considerable time going through each of your posts section by section and answered your questions with God's WORD. I refer you to the most recent post which also has links to your answered questions in post # 805 linked click me. In return you have chosen to ignore my posts and the questions asked of you. So this is not a discussion. If you are happy to respond to my posts and the questions in them I am happy to continue a discussion with you. If not we will have to agree to disagree. Do you agree to respond to my posts and the scriptures and questions in them? YES/NO?

If your not able to brother it is alright, I wish you all the best.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Thanks, you've shown me these already and I have looked at them. Now can you please quote
Acts 8:30-31?

I believe I do have some verses that can assist you, but I would like you to take a look at this first one.

Hello brother Cis.jd, welcome back. Yes I know these scriptures especially ACTS 8:26-36. I was just sharing these scriptures with someone earlier actually. This was in regards to making the point that everything we have in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures come from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures and the ETHIOPIAN here was reading from the book of ISAIAH 53. This was an example of how the scriptures in this case the prophets from the MOSAIC book of the covenant *EXODUS 24:7 pointed to JESUS and his death on the cross for our sins.

This is what PAUL is writing about in regartds to the Shadow laws in HEBREWS 10.

HEBREWS 10:1-19
[1], For the law having a SHADOW of good things to come, and not the very image of the things [WHAT LAW WAS A SHADOW?], can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the ones approaching perfect.
[2], For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because the worshipers once purged should have had no more consciousness of sins.
[3], But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year [Day of Atonement *Leviticus 23:27-32].
[4], For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
[5], Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you desired not, but a body have you prepared me:
[6], In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you have had no pleasure.
[7], Then said I, Lo, I come in the volume of the book it is written of me, to do your will, O God.

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NOTE: What are these Shadow laws of the OLD COVENANT? IT is those from the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT v7 is a reference to...

EXODUS 24:7 [7], And he took the BOOK OF THE COVENANT, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD has said will we do, and be obedient.

DEUTERONOMY 29:21 [21], And the LORD shall separate him to evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the COVENANT THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK OF THE LAW.

DEUTERONOMY 31:26 [26], Take this BOOK OF THE LAW, and put it in the SIDE OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.

2 KINGS 23:2 [2], And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the people, both small and great: and HE READ IN THEIR EARS ALL THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT which was found in the house of the LORD.

2 KINGS 23:3 [3], And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, TO PERFORM THE WORDS OF THIS COVENANT THAT WERE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK. And all the people stood to the covenant.

2 KINGS 23:21 [21], And the king commanded all the people, saying, KEEP THE PASSOVER OF THE LORD your God, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THIS COVENANT.

HEBREWS 10:7 [7], Then said I, LO I COME IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.

NOTE: Brother HEBREWS 10 is talking about the shadow laws from the VOLUME OF THE BOOK the point to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVANANT. It is not talking about God's 10 commandments.

Hope this helps brother.

May God bless you.

 

[Cis.jd]

Hello brother Cis.jd, welcome back. Yes I know these scriptures especially ACTS 8:26-36. I was just sharing these scriptures with someone earlier actually. This was in regards to making the point that everything we have in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures come from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures and the ETHIOPIAN here was reading from the book f ISAIAH 53. This was an example of how the scriptures in this case the prophets from the MOSAIC book of the covenant *EXODUS 24:7 pointed to JESUS and his death on the cross for our sins.

Excellent point, but please can you quote Acts 8:30-31? I've asked more than 4 times, im not sure if you are reading those post, but if you don't want to quote them just say so, so i can stop asking.

I've just seen your edited post. You've given those verses many times already, but can we quote some new ones starting with the Acts 8:30-31?

 

[Karola]

I am sorry brother your just repeating yourself again. It seems we will have to agree to disagree as your ignoring the posts, scriptures and questions provided to you and you will you respond to my posts. You are free to believe as you wish I do not judge you. We all answer only to God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

I have spent considerable time going through each of your posts section by section and answered your questions with God's WORD. I refer you to the most recent post which also has links to your answered questions in post # 805 linked click me. In return you have chosen to ignore my posts and the questions asked of you. So this is not a discussion. If you are happy to respond to my posts and the questions in them I am happy to continue a discussion with you. If not we will have to agree to disagree. Do you agree to respond to my posts and the scriptures and questions in them? YES/NO?

If your not able to brother it is alright, I wish you all the best.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

I have to congratulate you, the way you respond to difficult posts. It is brilliant. In my view, you are wasted here, you should have been a politician

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Excellent point, but please can you quote Acts:30-31? I've asked more than 4 times, im not sure if you are reading those post, but if you don't want to quote them just say so, so i can stop asking.

Sorry brother I am not sure what you mean? I just quoted ACTS 8:26-36. Did you just wish to focus on ACTS 8:30-31?

ACTS 8:30-31
[30], And Philip ran to him, and heard him read the prophet Isaiah, and said, Do you understand what you read?
[31], And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Here God leads the disciple Philip to the ETHIOPIAN who God was guiding in his WORD. God used Philip through the HOLY SPIRIT to help the ETHIOPIAN come to know JESUS through the Gospel from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures that pointed to JESUS as our lamb of God to take away our sins.

God used Philip and guided him through his Spirit to reveal his Word to the Ethiopian so that he could understand God's WORD and come to know JESUS and the what the OLD COVENANT pointed to and the NEW COVENANT promise.

Hope this is more towards your meaning brother?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I have to congratulate you, the way you respond to difficult posts. It is brilliant. In my view, you are wasted here, you should have been a politician

No sister we are all God's children here and God has time and loves all of us.
God bless

 

[Karola]

No sister we are all God's children here and God has time and loves all of us.

I did not suggest otherwise

 

[Cis.jd]

Sorry brother I am not sure what you mean? I just quoted ACTS 8:26-36. Did you just wish to focus on ACTS 8:30-31?

ACTS 8:30-31
[30], And Philip ran to him, and heard him read the prophet Isaiah, and said, Do you understand what you read?
[31], And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Here God lead the disciple Philip to the ETHIOPIAN who God was guiding in his WORD. God used Philip through the HOLY SPIRIT to help the ETHIOPIAN come to know JESUS through the Gospel from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures that pointed to JESUS as our lamb of God to take away our sins.

God used Philip and guided him through his Spirit to reveal his Word to the Ethiopian so that he could understand God's WORD and come to know JESUS and the what the OLD COVENANT pointed to and the NEW COVENANT promise.

Hope this is more towards your meaning brother?

Thank you for quoting it.. at the same time, thank you for giving your thoughts on it. Please don't get me wrong, I am trying to show you some new verses that can also help you with this topic. Acts 8:30-31 is just a piece of it.
Now can you quote 2 Peter 1:20 (lets not prolong the quote).

 

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Thank you for quoting it.. at the same time, thank you for giving your thoughts on it. Please don't get me wrong, I am trying to show you some new verses that can also help you with this topic.
Now can you quote 2 Peter 1:20 (lets not prolong the quote).

One of my favourite scriptures.

2 PETER 1:20-21
[20], Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of one's own interpretation. [21], For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

For me these scriptures are saying that God's WORD interprets it's own meaning. Scripture interprets the scriptures by the Spirit of God. The NEW COVENANT promise is that God wants to be our teacher and guide us in to all truth as we seek him for it through his WORD and by his Spirit. *HEBREWS 8:11; JOHN 14:26; 16:13: 17:17: 8:31-36. These scriptures are pointing all to JESUS and his WORD and the promise of God's Spirit to be our teacher and guide in God's WORD as long as we continue in God's WORD believing and following it *JOHN 8:31-36.

I have to go for now brother I will be back latter though.

Hope this is helpful

God bless