Trump most honest President in modern history

[Shiloh Raven]

I could keep this going because the videos documenting Trump's lies are amazingly plentiful.

 

[ViaCrucis]

he doesn't

If you're trying to gaslight me it's not going to work.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Go Braves]

No, Trump won’t be remembered as ‘the most honest president’ ever

 

[The Barbarian]

Must feel like being caught in a tsunami.

 

[Truthfrees]

If you're trying to gaslight me it's not going to work.

-CryptoLutheran

same for me - not falling for nonsense no matter how it's packaged

 

[Shiloh Raven]

No, Trump won’t be remembered as ‘the most honest president’ ever

Here's a great excerpt from the article....

The Washington Post’s Marc Thiessen, for example, a former speechwriter in the Bush/Cheney White House, wrote a deeply strange column – which delighted Donald Trump – praising the current president for, of all things, honesty.

Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history.

Don’t get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history” (actually they are the eighth largest) and that “our economy is the strongest it’s ever been in the history of our country” (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it’s a New York thing – everything is the biggest and the best.

But when it comes to the real barometer of presidential truthfulness – keeping his promises – Trump is a paragon of honesty.

Just so we’re clear, I didn’t edit this excerpt in a misleading way. Thiessen really did write, in successive sentences, that Trump “lies all the time” and that he may be remembered “as the most honest president in modern American history.”

And for the conservative columnist, this makes perfect sense.

<< End of Excerpt >>

Talk about a contradiction in Marc Thiessen's moral convictions...

He admits that Trump LIES ALL THE TIME, but then he blatantly contradicts himself by saying that Trump is the most honest president in modern history and he is the paragon of honesty.

I know I'm pointing out the obvious here but... how can Donald Trump be the most honest president in modern history and the paragon of honesty if HE LIES ALL THE TIME?

 

[Go Braves]

same for me - not falling for nonsense no matter how it's packaged

Same for me as well - not falling for nonsense no matter how it's packaged! It's why I of course haven't fallen for the claim that Trump is the most honest POTUS in modern history.

 

[Truthfrees]

Same for me as well - not falling for nonsense no matter how it's packaged! It's why I of course haven't fallen for the claim that Trump is the most honest POTUS in modern history.

and that is why i haven't fallen for the nonsense that he is not - so i guess we are both set on our respective pov's

 

[Truthfrees]

Talk about a contradiction in Marc Thiessen's moral convictions...

He admits that Trump LIES ALL THE TIME, but then he blatantly contradicts himself by saying that Trump is the most honest president in modern history and he is the paragon of honesty.

I know I'm pointing out the obvious here but... how can Donald Trump be the most honest president in modern history and the paragon of honesty if HE LIES ALL THE TIME?

i guess that is what makes this an article for both sides - each side can agree wholeheartedly with one of these 2 statements

 

[Go Braves]

and that is why i haven't fallen for the nonsense that he is not - so i guess we are both set on our respective pov's

I'm set on facts rather than mere POVs. A point of view is always going to be dependent on which direction you've turned your neck & what lens you're looking through.

 

[jgarden]

Trump most honest President in modern history

- the Honduran "march" to the US border is being financed by the Democrats

- Honduran "gangbangers" and Islamic "terrorists" are embedded in the entourage

- the undocumented participants have all been promised cars - Rolls Royces noless

- Americans are now rioting in "sanctuary cities" in California

- the Saudi "assassination" was the result of a fistfight between the victim and 18 security officials who just happened to have flown in the previous day

- any attempt to halt military sales to the Saudis would cost 1 million American jobs

- "lying" Ted Cruz, whose father was part of the conspiracy n the Kennedy assassination, is now "Texas Ted" and has been literally "embraced" by the President

- the construction of "The Wall" has started

- the protections promised, by this President, to the American "Trans" community are now in jeopardy just 2 weeks before the 2018 Interim Elections

- the American "middle class" can expect a tax cut between now and the Election - conveniently ignoring the fact that Congress needs to be in session to vote on the matter

- the landmark arms treaty, which unfortunately doesn't bear "The Donald's" signature, that brought the "Cold War" arms race to an end has been revoked by this President, setting the stage for a new round of nuclear weapons being stockpiled

... And its only Tuesday!

 

[ViaCrucis]

same for me - not falling for nonsense no matter how it's packaged

The difference, of course, being that my claim that Donald Trump is a liar because he lies is based empirical evidence. It's not opinion, or hear-say, or spin. It's documented fact.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Truthfrees]

The difference, of course, being that my claim that Donald Trump is a liar because he lies is based empirical evidence. It's not opinion, or hear-say, or spin. It's documented fact.

-CryptoLutheran

no it is based on your pov - subjective opinion - iow you can't prove he lied - you can only take msm stories and draw conclusions from what they say -

msm misquotes trump all the time - he makes a statement and msm does not ASK him what he meant - msm TELLS you what he meant - and then you take that as gospel and from that point on you subjectively have a wrong understanding of what trump said -

 

[Truthfrees]

I'm set on facts rather than mere POVs. A point of view is always going to be dependent on which direction you've turned your neck & what lens you're looking through.

yes - i suppose that is what we all like to believe about ourselves because we are each trying to find the truth - but the truth is that you and i use different news sources - imo yours are not factual and therefore the conclusions you draw from your news sources are not factual - and i'm sure you feel the same toward me

so you and i will continue to disagree about who of us is factual and who of us is misinformed

 

[Go Braves]

yes - i suppose that is what we all like to believe about ourselves because we are each trying to find the truth - but the truth is that you and i use different news sources - imo yours are not factual and therefore the conclusions you draw from your news sources are not factual - and i'm sure you feel the same toward me

so you and i will continue to disagree about who of us is factual and who of us is misinformed

Do you consider Trump's Twitter feed, what he says, what Sarah HS says, & the White House site to be sources of information?

 

[straykat]

Let me just add that, in lieu of actually meeting Trump and taking him to the side to admonish him about some things, that we should simply pray for him. And pray for all of these people in Washington as well (I mean, even Schumer and Pelosi.. Speaking to you @ fellow conservatives). And also pray for the person who actually is blessed to be a spiritual advisor to the President, that they never fear speaking the truth.

But Trump is also doing some good things too. I'm not going to make him out to be some evil guy and lose my mind. If anyone feels that way, I'm going to pray for them too.

 

[Truthfrees]

Do you consider Trump's Twitter feed, what he says, what Sarah HS says, & the White House site to be sources of information?

twitter? - maybe - but not my first choice - twitter is generally used for twitter wars with very little useable info - mostly entertainment / banter / purposeful misdirect to keep msm chasing their tails - trump gets most of his maga business accomplished on the quiet by keeping msm in hysterics discussing his latest twitter statements - (REMEMBER QOVFEFE? - IT ALMOST CRASHED THE WEB - EVERYONE WAS CHASING THAT DOWN FOR DAYS) - they haven't figured out yet that he plays them and they fall for it every time - some of his twitter messages are coded for his supporters and we get the message that others miss

wh feeds? - generally yes - some of the statements are official policy statements - the questions and impromptu statements by trump are illuminating and clarifying - some of the state press conferences including those of visiting dignitaries are informative but others are void of any useable info - some are only photo ops

what sarah says? - somewhat - she spends too much time dealing with stupid questions - so her statements are the better source of info compared to the circus show questions she tries to answer - i skip the reporter questions as most of them are only trying to make soundbites for themselves by asking foolish inflammatory strawman questions

 

[Go Braves]

twitter? - maybe - but not my first choice - twitter is generally used for twitter wars with very little useable info - mostly entertainment / banter / purposeful misdirect to keep msm chasing their tails - trump gets most of his maga business accomplished on the quiet by keeping msm in hysterics discussing his latest twitter statements - they haven't figured out yet that he plays them and they fall for it everytime - i suppose revenge for all the lies they tell about him - some of his twitter messages are coded for his supporters and we get the message that others miss

wh feeds? - generally yes - some of the statements are official policy statements - the questions and impromptu statements by trump are illuminating and clarifying - some of the state press conferences including those of visiting dignitaries are informative but others are void of any useable info - some are only photo ops

what sarah says? - somewhat - she spends too much time dealing with stupid questions - so her statements are the better source of info compared to the circus show questions she tries to answer - i skip the reporter questions as most of them are only trying to make soundbites for themselves by asking foolish inflammatory strawman questions

I asked on account of Trump's dishonesty has been on display in what he has written & said, what he had the White House say. You don't even need to utilize any form of news source, just go straight to the horse's mouth to see the bull.

 

[Truthfrees]

I asked on account of Trump's dishonesty has been on display in what he has written & said, what he had the White House say. You don't even need to utilize any form of news source, just go straight to the horse's mouth to see the bull.

not so - the problem is with the interpreter and the interpreter's pov and lack of understanding

 

[Go Braves]

not so - the problem is with the interpreter and the interpreter's pov and lack of understanding

All that is needed are honest ears to hear what he's said, honest eyes to read what he wrote, when he has contradicted himself, stated falsehoods, or had the White House do the same. There's no interpretation or understanding needed, just integrity.