Nobels 2018

[essentialsaltes]

Medicine: James Allison and Tasuku Honjo for their work on immunotherapy that has revolutionized how cancer is treated.

Physics: Half of the prize wen to Arthur Ashkin (96), who managed to live long enough to remain eligible! He was honored for his development of optical tweezers at Bell Labs in 1970.

Donna Strickland and Gérard Mourou split the other half of the prize for their work in the 1980s at the University of Rochester to develop chirped pulse amplification (CPA) for lasers, which enabled lasers pulses to be amplified to higher power.

Chemistry: Half the prize went to Frances Arnold for using Darwinian mechanisms to design enzymes. The other half was split between George Smith and Gregory Winter for the 'phage display of peptides and antibodies'.

In a sad coincidence, Physics Laureate Leon Lederman passed away the same day the Chemistry Prize was announced. He led teams that made some key discoveries in particle physics (the muon neutrino and the bottom quark) that helped flesh out what is now known as the Standard Model. He's probably best known to a wider audience for coining the phrase "The God Particle" to refer to the Higgs boson, causing anger and confusion ever since.

And for completeness....

Peace: Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict.

(There is no Literature Prize this year, due to an unpleasant scandal. And the Economics Prize isn't a real Prize anyway.)

 

[AV1611VET]

God gifts us scientists to make our lives easier.

 

[Strathos]

God gifts us scientists to make our lives easier.

And some people seem determined to reject that gift.

 

[AV1611VET]

And some people seem determined to reject that gift.

I don't think they reject it, so much as they misapply it.

Nimrod, for example, a "mighty hunter before the LORD," ended up building an empire so evil it will be resurrected during the Tribulation.

Gautama abandoned his family, but came back demon possessed and started a religion of suicidal pacifists.

Darwin, probably God's choice to find a cure for cancer, abandoned his family, but came back demon possessed and started a philosophy so evil it will be highlighted during the Tribulation. He also brought back a communicable disease.

 

[Strathos]

I don't think they reject it, so much as they misapply it.

Nimrod, for example, a "mighty hunter before the LORD," ended up building an empire so evil it will be resurrected during the Tribulation.

Gautama abandoned his family, but came back demon possessed and started a religion of suicidal pacifists.

Darwin, probably God's choice to find a cure for cancer, abandoned his family, but came back demon possessed and started a philosophy so evil it will be highlighted during the Tribulation. He also brought back a communicable disease.

I don't see how the first two were scientists. And Darwin didn't start any philosophy, he was just documenting what was observed in nature. Alfred Russel Wallace had observed the same thing but Darwin just managed to publish his findings first. You could go back in time and kill Darwin and Wallace as babies and someone else would eventually discover the same things they did. Just like killing Einstein wouldn't stop someone else from discovery relativity, or killing Archimedes wouldn't stop people from discovering that objects in water have buoyancy equal to the weight of the water they displace. These are all facts of nature. And I think we both know Who created nature.

 

[AV1611VET]

You could go back in time and kill Darwin and Wallace as babies and someone else would eventually discover the same things they did.

Or kill Lucifer and someone would take his place?

And Paul compares evolution ("endless genealogies") to fables.

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

 

[Strathos]

Or kill Lucifer and someone would take his place?

Assuming you could do so, someone would only take his place if God willed it.

And Paul compares evolution ("endless genealogies") to fables.

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

How is ToE a genealogy at all? In fact, IIRC, one of your primary complaints is that no one can show you a complete genealogy of fossils from every generation. If anything, this passage applies more to the list of Adam's descendants in Genesis.

 

[AV1611VET]

If anything, this passage applies more to the list of Adam's descendants in Genesis.

Adam's descendants are well known, as Luke attests.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Except Darwin didn’t observe evolution. He observed Finches becoming Finches, lizards becoming lizards.

Others ran with that and decided it meant the same thing as fish becoming man......

 

[durangodawood]

Except Darwin didn’t observe evolution. He observed Finches becoming Finches, lizards becoming lizards.

Others ran with that and decided it meant the same thing as fish becoming man......

Yeah. Do you realize that none of us have observed anything before we were born?

Maybe that stuff didnt happen.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Yeah. Do you realize that none of us have observed anything before we were born?

Maybe that stuff didnt happen.

Oh I realize we still haven’t seen it, even after we were born.....

But we have seen variation within the species, but never from one Kind to another.....

But evolutionists like to incorrectly call Finches mating right in front of their eyes separate species, because incorrectly classifying them is the only way they can uphold Darwin’s classifications.

 

[Strathos]

Adam's descendants are well known, as Luke attests.

So are lots of genealogies.

 

[AV1611VET]

So are lots of genealogies.

But there's one philosophy that deals with endless genealogies.

Do you know what it is?

Hint: It has an endless amount of missing links -- quintillions of them.

 

[Strathos]

But there's one philosophy that deals with endless genealogies.

Do you know what it is?

Hint: It has an endless amount of missing links -- quintillions of them.

Not a genealogy nor a philosophy. Your interpretations are increasingly bizarre.

 

[USincognito]

What does any of this garbage have to do with the 2018 Nobel Prize winners?

 

[lesliedellow]

Medicine: James Allison and Tasuku Honjo for their work on immunotherapy that has revolutionized how cancer is treated.

Physics: Half of the prize wen to Arthur Ashkin (96), who managed to live long enough to remain eligible! He was honored for his development of optical tweezers at Bell Labs in 1970.

Donna Strickland and Gérard Mourou split the other half of the prize for their work in the 1980s at the University of Rochester to develop chirped pulse amplification (CPA) for lasers, which enabled lasers pulses to be amplified to higher power.

Chemistry: Half the prize went to Frances Arnold for using Darwinian mechanisms to design enzymes. The other half was split between George Smith and Gregory Winter for the 'phage display of peptides and antibodies'.

In a sad coincidence, Physics Laureate Leon Lederman passed away the same day the Chemistry Prize was announced. He led teams that made some key discoveries in particle physics (the muon neutrino and the bottom quark) that helped flesh out what is now known as the Standard Model. He's probably best known to a wider audience for coining the phrase "The God Particle" to refer to the Higgs boson, causing anger and confusion ever since.

And for completeness....

Peace: Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict.

(There is no Literature Prize this year, due to an unpleasant scandal. And the Economics Prize isn't a real Prize anyway.)

Wot? No “creation scientists?”

 

[AV1611VET]

Wot? No “creation scientists?”

"Creation science" is a contradiction in terms.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Wot? No “creation scientists?”

I don't know their views on creation, but certainly they didn't win for work along those lines.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

All scientists are creation scientists whether they know it or not..... Only the study of a universe of laws by a lawgiver, not random chance, leads to science....

But I'll tell you all what. Blow something up into random disorder and let me know when it makes order..... Do that and we'll discuss that random processes bring about precise order.... Until then it's just all wishful thinking on your part.

 

[Strathos]

All scientists are creation scientists whether they know it or not..... Only the study of a universe of laws by a lawgiver, not random chance, leads to science....

If you define it that way, then I guess you should have no problem with scientists studying anything in the universe, since it's all 'creation science'.

Except you do.