Five Different Kinds of Tongues

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Being filled and being baptized are completely different terms. One is external, the other internal. …
I sort of agree with that.

Although baptism is a ceremony; meaning an outward sign of an inward reality. And the initial filling of the indwelling Spirit is obviously not a ceremony, but rather the Spiritual reality that we are baptized to make a public confession of and identify ourselves with the church.

I also contrast the indwelling Spirit with the baptism with the Holy Spirit the same way you are describing the filling and baptism. The indwelling is obviously internal in a sense; and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is external in a sense. Notice how the word "on" is used in these scriptures below.

Acts 8:16
because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Acts 11:15
“As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning.

Acts 19:6
When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
 
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What judgement does is stops people from entering the kingdom. Guilt is not what I feel...annoyed rather. I admit, I do not know everything and what I know I do not know it well.. but you present yourself as a teacher..you respond as if you are giving help to the lost as you have been found. Then you think you are being kind by waving and saying "I hoped that helped".
What you call righteous judgement is....judging from your thoughts of what you believe you are right about. Righteous judgement is that you have judged yourself first...and you were yet to share how you kept the sabbath as those under the law..
You have yet to see...that everyday in Christ is our day of rest casting our cares upon Him....

You judge not righteously...because scripture is clear when it says.. He is the Master that can make anyone stand...
Romans 14:14

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

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JOHN 12:47-48 [47], And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. [48], He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

The light shines in darkness; but the darkness does not understand. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Light is come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Who can know the Word of God when there is no Word?

Indeed and if you lose your mirror how will you see yourself and know who you are when you are sick and do not know it. Many do not know the meaning or who the Savior is or who he has come to call because their mirror is broken or lost. How can you find your way when the road is dark and narrow when your lamp goes out?
 
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JOHN 12:47-48 [47], And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. [48], He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

The light shines in darkness; but the darkness does not understand. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Light is come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Who can know the Word of God when there is no Word?

Indeed and if you lose your mirror how will you see yourself and know who you are when you are sick and do not know it. Many do not know the meaning or who the Savior is or who he has come to call because their mirror is broken or lost. How can you find your way when the road is dark and narrow when your lamp goes out?
More of the same.
This goes to prove that you are just fine with your approach and have no interesting in correcting your behavior.
 
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24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Question? What was the purpose..or establishment of the Law for?
It was to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by faith

When are you no longer under a school Master[Law]? When faith is come

You asked: what is our Mirror once Faith is Come? Its the perfect law of liberty("Jesus Christ in us our hope of glory")



James 1..around 23-25
"But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does."
John 15;5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

I believe he is blessed in what He does because his actions come from love....based on the faithfulness of Christ that produces faith that desires to love...



This is why the commandments are not burdensome....not [commandments under the law] the commandments after believing Jesus is Lord. Love one another

James is contrasting 2 different laws...
It's like saying faith without works is dead
As the doer of the Law is Justified not merely the hearer.

Anyway back to the 2 scriptures .[John 15;5 and James 1.].The perfect law of liberty as I might see it, comparing scripture with scripture is not the ten commandments..it's Christ who fulfilled the law.[God's Love]

Christ-living up to or obeying his sayings[words, commands] ultimately Love

Do any abide in CHRIST if a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come and they turn away from it? John says it is obedience to God's LAW through love that is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:9-10.

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THOSE WHO FOLLOW GOD DO NOT PRACTICE SIN

1 JOHN 3:4 [4], Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

JOHN 8:34 [34], Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, WHOSOEVER COMMITS SIN IS A SERVANT OF SIN.

Jesus wants to make you free from sin [BREAKING GODS LAW]...

JOHN 8:36 [36], IF THE SON OF MAN SHALL MAKE YOU FREE YOU SHALL BE FREE INDEED.

1 JOHN 3:6 [6], Whosoaver abides in him SINS NOT; WHOSOEVER SINS HAS NEITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOWS HIM.

1 JOHN 2:4 [4], HE THAT SAYS I KNOW HIM AND KEEP NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

1 JOHN 3:7 [7], Little children, let no man deceive you: HE THAT DOES RIGHTOEUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN HAS HE IS RIGHTOUES.

PSALMS 119:172 [172], My tongue shall speak of your word: for ALL YOUR COMMANDMENTRS ARE RIGHTOUESNESS.

1 JOHN 3:8-10 [8], HE THAT COMMITS SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.[9], WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT COMMIT SIN; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10], IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL:whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

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HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU KNOW GOD?

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3],
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 JOHN 3:3-10
[3], And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
[4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5], And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6], Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
[7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?

REVELATION 12:17, And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

REVELATION 14:12, Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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WHO ARE THOSE THAT RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

REVELATION 22:14, Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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WHO HAS GOD'S SPIRIT?

ACTS 5:32, And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THEM WHO OBEY HIM.

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SIN is the breaking of ANY of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4). Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the traditions and teachings of men that break the commandments of God.
 
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More of the same.
This goes to prove that you are just fine with your approach and have no interesting in correcting your behavior.

It is only by faith that works by love that anyone can follow him who loves all. How can we being evil do good things? How can we love if we do not know we have no heart to love? Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he can in no wise see the Kingdom of Heaven. This is because spiritual things are spiritually discerned and they are foolishness unto those who do not see themselves.

Many are called but few are chosen because narrow is the way and few there be that find it. Only the mirror shows the way so the blind can see. Those that say they see are really the blind ones and if the blind shall lead the blind both shall fall into a ditch.

Those that have looked into the mirror however see they are blind so they walk by faith and not by sight. They see the one who loves all and follow him. Only by love can God fulfill his Law in the blind because they walk by faith and see him who loves all. The mirror shows the way.
 
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I still want to hear what you believe about tongues. Get back on topic.
None have God's Spirit who break his commandments. Repentance from sin is one of the condtions in order to receive God's gifts *ACTS 2:38
 
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It is only by faith that works by love that anyone can follow him who loves all. How can we being evil do good things? How can we love if we do not know we have no heart to love? Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he can in no wise see the Kingdom of Heaven. This is because spiritual things are spiritually discerned and they are foolishness unto those who do not see themselves.

Many are called but few are chosen because narrow is the way and few there be that find it. Only the mirror shows the way so the blind can see. Those that say they see are really the blind ones and if the blind shall lead the blind both shall fall into a ditch.

Those that have looked into the mirror however see they are blind so they walk by faith and not by sight. They see the one who loves all and follow him. Only by love can God fulfill his Law in the blind because they walk by faith and see him who loves all. The mirror shows the way.
Oh, I get it now. You are speaking in tongues. What is your native tongue?
 
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God's WORD
Sorry, God would never speak to us the way you are.

Matthew 4:5-6
Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”
 
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So to you I guess the scriptures are not God's WORD? These are not my words but the words of him who loves all.
All I get is hateful religious condemnation with happy waving icons. "I hope that helps."
 
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All I get is hateful religious condemnation with happy waving icons. "I hope that helps."

Some travellers in the way walked by and saw some sitting in darkness who lost their way and offered them some oil for their lamps to help them on their way, but they being proud would not accept the gift and did not want to receive any help choosing instead to make their home in the ditch where they had fallen because they loved darkness rather then light having evil deeds.

When the travellers met the master of the way they told him of those that had fallen in the ditch but would not receive their help. The master told them Hearing they hear, but do not understand; and seeing they see, but do not perceive. This was the ditch of confusion that all fall into that kick against the pricks when their lamp is broken and they cannot see when the road gets dark and narrow.
 
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Some travellers in the way walked by and saw some sitting in darkeness who lost their way and offered them some oil for their lamps but they being proud would not accept the gift and did not want to receive any help choosing instead to make their home in the ditch
where they had falle because they loved darkness rather then light having evil deeds.
When the travellers met the master of the way they told him of those that had fallen in the ditch but would not receive their help. The master told them Hearing they hear, but do not understand; and seeing they see, but do not perceive: this was because of a waxed heart that effected the eyes and the ears and confused the understanding. This was the ditch of confusion that all fall into that kick against the pricks when their lamp is broken and they cannot see when the road gets dark and narrow.
"God's WORD" through a meat grinder. What a mess. Or maybe a reading from Ellen G. White?
 
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"God's WORD" through a meat grinder. What a mess. Or maybe a reading from Ellen G. White?

The light shines in darkness; but the darkness does not understand. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Light is come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. Do you know these scriptures? What do you think they mean?

He is calling all who have ears to hear and eyes to see. These are they that are blind and deaf. In times of ignorance God winks at and he is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God's sheep hear his Voice (the Word)
 
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Yes everytime I read his WORD.
What do you think Jesus meant when he said this? No one at that time owned their own Bible.

John 10:27
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
 
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What do you think Jesus meant when he said this? No one at that time owned their own Bible.

John 10:27
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

ROMANS 10:17 [17], So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 
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