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Did animals live longer than now before the flood?
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Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.
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. Yep , CF won’t let me use that naughty word that expresses exactly what creation “ science “ really is
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It's a contradiction in terms, that's what it is.
And I don't need to resort to minced oaths to explain it.
One has nothing to do with the other.
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Gen 2 shows that to be wrong.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
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Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.
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Only to those who reject God's Truth. If you knew His Truth, you would see that Genesis AGREES with Science and History in every detail. The problem is that you are looking at the creation story through the eyes of ancient men. Only Christians of the last days before Jesus returns, have the increased knowledge necessary to understand the Supreme Intelligence of Creation. Daniel 12:4 Ranting against the Holy Spirit, the Author of Scripture, reveals the willing ignorance of the ranter. God bless you
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... and God saw that it was good.
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These verses do NOT say those animals lived inside the Garden. Each one of them has to be "brought unto" (from outside of the Garden) Adam to get a name. Adam took care of all plants, but not a single animal.
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What it shows is they were created in the garden and brought to Adam, plus it is written they were created as helpmeets for Adam. He was to tend to the garden and needed animals to help him plus he was a farmer and farmers use animals to help them.
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“willing ignorance of the ranter”. Yep sounds like it! You’re the one who posits that the Nature that God made tells lies ! That what’s going on here. either Nature that humans didn’t create is lying or the Bible, which humans did have a hand in creating, is not giving you accurate info . I know which one I trust to be more accurate
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Adam was lonely and needed a companion so God made an animal and brought it to him. Adam said "I will call this an Aardvark". God must have had a wicked sense of humour.
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False since I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture with Science and History. The problem is NOT with Nature but the traditional religious understanding which God tells us is in error and MUST be accepted by Faith.
The Holy Spirit brought God's Holy Word down through the ages in spite of the fact that mortal, sinful, mankind TRIED to distort it to "their" way of thinking. They failed and the scientific discoveries written about in Genesis One proves it to those who are living in the last generation before Jesus returns. Amen?
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Amen, BUT He made Eve last because God sees the future from the beginning. From that time to this women have tempted Adam/mankind to sin. Ask Trump.
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Animals were NOT created in the Garden. When animals were created (Day 4 to Day 6), the Garden were not created. The Garden is only created for Adam.
You need a dog to "help" in the gardening?
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Dogs are helpful but cattle and other livestock is very important. In Genesis 2 God makes animals in the garden for Adam.
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Amen, BUT He made Eve last because God sees the future from the beginning. From that time to this women have tempted Adam/mankind to sin. Ask Trump.
I had no idea that you knew God's motivations that well.
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No. God does not create animal in the Garden. Gen. 2 does not say that. The Garden is made for Adam ONLY.
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You remain wrong. It's written in black and white plus even Eve was made in the garden.
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Eve was made in the Garden. There is nothing wrong with it.
Animals were NOT made in the Garden. Animals are not allowed in the Garden.
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My second thought says, animals do not live longer before the Flood.
Human lived longer before the Flood is because Adam lived forever in the Garden. Animals did not live in the Garden at all. So, the Curse does not affect them much.
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Gen 2 proves your theory wrong.
Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Gen 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
Gen 2:11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
Gen 2:12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
Gen 2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
Gen 2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
God made trees and animals all in the garden, and made Eve in the same place...the same garden Adam lived in.
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