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I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

That is correct, you are obligated to honor your marriage to your wife. The bible tells us plainly,

1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

The bible is clear that a Christian is NOT to remarry. The LORDs command is that if you separate you must remain unmarried, must remain single, the only option is to remain unmarried or be reunited. This scripture keep me married through some very tough times.
 
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This is what I struggle with. I believe that the covenant I made to God and to her trumps happiness even though it sucks living like this.
You feel that you are not happy because you are not getting the things you want, but one day if you come to realize that your happiness does not rely on getting those things, you will no longer need those things to be happy.

Happiness depends on your perspective. You can still be happy even if your circumstances haven't changed.

Not that I speak from want, for I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am. I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need. (Philippians 4:11-12 NASB)​
 
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Honestly after my meltdown yesterday and pouring out of my soul to God, absolutely. My friend texted me a few minutes ago and asked me if I was ok today because I have avoided her all day. I responded no that I'd call her once she got home. I have every intention on setting it straight and ending the emotional relationship because I feel deep down it's Satan trying to destory my Godly marriage/home even though she is also a Christian. The only thing that worries me like I said is that by me ending it, I may be missing out on something that could've been if my marriage eventually ends.
Friend, if she is the Christian you say she is, and you confess these things to her, she will understand and there will be no problems. If she is NOT the Christian you think she is, she will try to keep it going because she was playing you. Maybe not from the start but no Christian woman worth her salt would string you along, nor allow you to get close enough to become involved since she knows you are married. Say your piece and walk away with haste.
 
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I've read through a few threads on here and the one that really hit me hard was from user
flipspecial. It really broke me to pieces and I had a complete meltdown yesterday reading it. My situation is a little different. My wife and I have been married now for 10 years and we now have a 19 month old baby. It started out great and we we're having the time of our lives until out of nowhere, things started to go downhill meaning she didn't want to have sex as much, we didn't communicate as well, we didn't spend money wisely and so on. To be brief, she was a professing believer when we married, I was not, but didn't know it until some years later when God convicted me during a revival we we're attending. I professed but didn't posses until this revival. After this my life was changed and so was our marriage. Even still, she doesn't show hardly any interest in sex, shows very little care to do things around the house and so on. I admit I haven't been perfect either but I do my part as in manly things and always make sure she has everything she needs. Every since the baby, things went from bad to worse. She dedicates everything to this baby and I completely understand why, they're an amazing gift from God. However since the baby her negligence for me as her husband has went to full throttle. I work 10-12 hr days and come home to no meal. After she puts the baby to sleep, I want to have sex which she huffs and puffs about and sometimes will but most of the time just goes to bed leaving me hanging. I say all that to give you an idea of what our marriage looks like before I go into this new situation I'm in. The past few weeks have been the worst pain emotionally I've ever experienced. I believe it's God convicting me of the feelings I'm having but I need help and prayer because it's killing my inside. I feel like vomiting thinking about it. I can't hardly eat anything, my work performance is awful because I can't focus.

There is a coworker of mine that I've worked with now for about 18 months. Up to this point there has been absolutely nothing between us, just a typical work "good morning" and on about your day until about 2 weeks ago I could see she was very shaken about something. Me being the softy I am, asked her if she was ok. Well it let loose a hour long discussion about how her fiance was a drunk and treated her like crap and so on. Well I know her fiance personally and he is a troubled individual and she deserves much better. She is also a professing Christian that attends church regularly and lives the Christian life. Well after talking with her that day, I felt a connection with her like I've never felt before. I felt like I needed to continue to help her through her situation. Since this day, we started texting and talking on the phone about our situations helping each other with experience and scriptures. Well in my current state with my marriage hanging on a thread, something was happening I didn't realize until yesterday reading through Flip's thread. I saw the term "limerence" and after googling it I was like...that's not me because I'm not obsessed or infatuated for her, she just checks all of the boxes I want for a wife. My wife used to check all of the boxes but something has changed and she doesn't seem to care anymore. This friend of mine has told me over and over that she doesn't want me to leave my wife her for but if I did she was there. She keeps telling me that I need to pray and listen to God which I am doing. Yesterday I poured out my heart go God and told him, whatever it takes to lift this burden, pain, and conviction, do it because I'm at the end of my ropes. This friend of mind is a great person, she comes from a past similar to mine as in moved out early and forced to grow up sooner than most people. I don't really believe in divorce but have been studying on biblical principles that allow it because I have a hard time believing God wants people to remain miserable. I know that God hates divorce and that it's probably not the best way to go simply because of the pain, confusion and devastation it causes. There is absolutely nothing physical between us, it's nothing sexual, just emotional attachments right now. I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

First, please pray for me, I'm in inner turmoil and can't function like this. I believe my brain is telling me what's right based on truth and my sinful heart is being deceived.
What I'm worried about is, that if I end this friendship and walk away that I'm missing out on something that could've been. She is a wonderful and strong person that I could easily be with because she possess everything I long for. Sometimes it feels like holiness trumps happiness. I have a hard time believing God wants someone to be miserable just to stay married. I've been praying for a long time to heal the marriage but nothing changes. To add to my mess, in my breakdown yesterday, I came out and told my wife what all I was feeling and why I believed I'm feeling like I am. She confessed to me her shortcomings and that she has put the baby first instead of God and would work to put God back first, then me, then the baby. This isn't the first time she's said this and nothing changed.

Please, if anyone has similar experience, help me.

Thank you.
One other thing, the little 19 month old will be 19 years old before you know it and if you don't be her daddy, somebody will. I can promise you that. I have been there.
 
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I've read through a few threads on here and the one that really hit me hard was from user
flipspecial. It really broke me to pieces and I had a complete meltdown yesterday reading it. My situation is a little different. My wife and I have been married now for 10 years and we now have a 19 month old baby. It started out great and we we're having the time of our lives until out of nowhere, things started to go downhill meaning she didn't want to have sex as much, we didn't communicate as well, we didn't spend money wisely and so on. To be brief, she was a professing believer when we married, I was not, but didn't know it until some years later when God convicted me during a revival we we're attending. I professed but didn't posses until this revival. After this my life was changed and so was our marriage. Even still, she doesn't show hardly any interest in sex, shows very little care to do things around the house and so on. I admit I haven't been perfect either but I do my part as in manly things and always make sure she has everything she needs. Every since the baby, things went from bad to worse. She dedicates everything to this baby and I completely understand why, they're an amazing gift from God. However since the baby her negligence for me as her husband has went to full throttle. I work 10-12 hr days and come home to no meal. After she puts the baby to sleep, I want to have sex which she huffs and puffs about and sometimes will but most of the time just goes to bed leaving me hanging. I say all that to give you an idea of what our marriage looks like before I go into this new situation I'm in. The past few weeks have been the worst pain emotionally I've ever experienced. I believe it's God convicting me of the feelings I'm having but I need help and prayer because it's killing my inside. I feel like vomiting thinking about it. I can't hardly eat anything, my work performance is awful because I can't focus.

There is a coworker of mine that I've worked with now for about 18 months. Up to this point there has been absolutely nothing between us, just a typical work "good morning" and on about your day until about 2 weeks ago I could see she was very shaken about something. Me being the softy I am, asked her if she was ok. Well it let loose a hour long discussion about how her fiance was a drunk and treated her like crap and so on. Well I know her fiance personally and he is a troubled individual and she deserves much better. She is also a professing Christian that attends church regularly and lives the Christian life. Well after talking with her that day, I felt a connection with her like I've never felt before. I felt like I needed to continue to help her through her situation. Since this day, we started texting and talking on the phone about our situations helping each other with experience and scriptures. Well in my current state with my marriage hanging on a thread, something was happening I didn't realize until yesterday reading through Flip's thread. I saw the term "limerence" and after googling it I was like...that's not me because I'm not obsessed or infatuated for her, she just checks all of the boxes I want for a wife. My wife used to check all of the boxes but something has changed and she doesn't seem to care anymore. This friend of mine has told me over and over that she doesn't want me to leave my wife her for but if I did she was there. She keeps telling me that I need to pray and listen to God which I am doing. Yesterday I poured out my heart go God and told him, whatever it takes to lift this burden, pain, and conviction, do it because I'm at the end of my ropes. This friend of mind is a great person, she comes from a past similar to mine as in moved out early and forced to grow up sooner than most people. I don't really believe in divorce but have been studying on biblical principles that allow it because I have a hard time believing God wants people to remain miserable. I know that God hates divorce and that it's probably not the best way to go simply because of the pain, confusion and devastation it causes. There is absolutely nothing physical between us, it's nothing sexual, just emotional attachments right now. I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

First, please pray for me, I'm in inner turmoil and can't function like this. I believe my brain is telling me what's right based on truth and my sinful heart is being deceived.
What I'm worried about is, that if I end this friendship and walk away that I'm missing out on something that could've been. She is a wonderful and strong person that I could easily be with because she possess everything I long for. Sometimes it feels like holiness trumps happiness. I have a hard time believing God wants someone to be miserable just to stay married. I've been praying for a long time to heal the marriage but nothing changes. To add to my mess, in my breakdown yesterday, I came out and told my wife what all I was feeling and why I believed I'm feeling like I am. She confessed to me her shortcomings and that she has put the baby first instead of God and would work to put God back first, then me, then the baby. This isn't the first time she's said this and nothing changed.

Please, if anyone has similar experience, help me.

Thank you.
Well first off you have to realize that all the feelings you and the “other woman” are sharing are perfectly natural. They are not there because of some unknown reason that either of you need to learn of. When two people of the opposite sex spend time with each other they will naturally developed feelings towards one another. Nothing more nothing less, nothing to be confused about and nothing in and of itself wrong or right. A person who understands this knows how to navigate life and temptations much better.

On to your wife. 95% chance you are a clueless male like me and most of the others. Not knowing that your wife’s actions towards you are a response to how you are treating her. Not that your treating her wrong. But that you don’t know how to treat her in a manner that makes here feel loved, cherished, appreciated, valued etc, etc AND!!!! That will naturally cause her to be more intimate with you. Dude...the Bible does not say walk with your wife according to knowledge if men were not naturally disposed to not having that knowledge. You can do what you think is right, tell her what is right and wrong till kingdom come and it will not make one iota of difference. You can double down on doing to her the way you’d like done to yourself and all you’ll do is make it all worse. Simple 5 love languages type stuff. Blindness to the ways of God, the ways of love and the ways of romance we are.
Commit yourself to finding out what makes your wife tick. Don’t tell her. You go on your own little journey with your Heavenly Father to find out how to make your special and unique wife feel overwhelmingly loved and valued and when you do, and start doing it. She won’t be able to keep her hands off you. Trust me on this. God knows exactly what makes that woman tick. His angels know. He would appreciate you asking and seeking him about it. He will honor your request and cares about you being satisfied.
 
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I've read through a few threads on here and the one that really hit me hard was from user
flipspecial. It really broke me to pieces and I had a complete meltdown yesterday reading it. My situation is a little different. My wife and I have been married now for 10 years and we now have a 19 month old baby. It started out great and we we're having the time of our lives until out of nowhere, things started to go downhill meaning she didn't want to have sex as much, we didn't communicate as well, we didn't spend money wisely and so on. To be brief, she was a professing believer when we married, I was not, but didn't know it until some years later when God convicted me during a revival we we're attending. I professed but didn't posses until this revival. After this my life was changed and so was our marriage. Even still, she doesn't show hardly any interest in sex, shows very little care to do things around the house and so on. I admit I haven't been perfect either but I do my part as in manly things and always make sure she has everything she needs. Every since the baby, things went from bad to worse. She dedicates everything to this baby and I completely understand why, they're an amazing gift from God. However since the baby her negligence for me as her husband has went to full throttle. I work 10-12 hr days and come home to no meal. After she puts the baby to sleep, I want to have sex which she huffs and puffs about and sometimes will but most of the time just goes to bed leaving me hanging. I say all that to give you an idea of what our marriage looks like before I go into this new situation I'm in. The past few weeks have been the worst pain emotionally I've ever experienced. I believe it's God convicting me of the feelings I'm having but I need help and prayer because it's killing my inside. I feel like vomiting thinking about it. I can't hardly eat anything, my work performance is awful because I can't focus.

There is a coworker of mine that I've worked with now for about 18 months. Up to this point there has been absolutely nothing between us, just a typical work "good morning" and on about your day until about 2 weeks ago I could see she was very shaken about something. Me being the softy I am, asked her if she was ok. Well it let loose a hour long discussion about how her fiance was a drunk and treated her like crap and so on. Well I know her fiance personally and he is a troubled individual and she deserves much better. She is also a professing Christian that attends church regularly and lives the Christian life. Well after talking with her that day, I felt a connection with her like I've never felt before. I felt like I needed to continue to help her through her situation. Since this day, we started texting and talking on the phone about our situations helping each other with experience and scriptures. Well in my current state with my marriage hanging on a thread, something was happening I didn't realize until yesterday reading through Flip's thread. I saw the term "limerence" and after googling it I was like...that's not me because I'm not obsessed or infatuated for her, she just checks all of the boxes I want for a wife. My wife used to check all of the boxes but something has changed and she doesn't seem to care anymore. This friend of mine has told me over and over that she doesn't want me to leave my wife her for but if I did she was there. She keeps telling me that I need to pray and listen to God which I am doing. Yesterday I poured out my heart go God and told him, whatever it takes to lift this burden, pain, and conviction, do it because I'm at the end of my ropes. This friend of mind is a great person, she comes from a past similar to mine as in moved out early and forced to grow up sooner than most people. I don't really believe in divorce but have been studying on biblical principles that allow it because I have a hard time believing God wants people to remain miserable. I know that God hates divorce and that it's probably not the best way to go simply because of the pain, confusion and devastation it causes. There is absolutely nothing physical between us, it's nothing sexual, just emotional attachments right now. I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

First, please pray for me, I'm in inner turmoil and can't function like this. I believe my brain is telling me what's right based on truth and my sinful heart is being deceived.
What I'm worried about is, that if I end this friendship and walk away that I'm missing out on something that could've been. She is a wonderful and strong person that I could easily be with because she possess everything I long for. Sometimes it feels like holiness trumps happiness. I have a hard time believing God wants someone to be miserable just to stay married. I've been praying for a long time to heal the marriage but nothing changes. To add to my mess, in my breakdown yesterday, I came out and told my wife what all I was feeling and why I believed I'm feeling like I am. She confessed to me her shortcomings and that she has put the baby first instead of God and would work to put God back first, then me, then the baby. This isn't the first time she's said this and nothing changed.

Please, if anyone has similar experience, help me.

Thank you.
My dear brother in Christ... My heart aches for you. My story is different than yours, because I chose to go the route of betraying my husband during a time when I felt utterly alone and incredibly abused and abandoned by him. Trust me, it is not the rose garden that you think it will be. I have paid a deep suffering. Now I am alone. I have been alone a long time. I believe that the celibate life I now life is part of the healing for me, and in part, the Lord's discipline. I would dearly like to see greater happiness for you, greater wholeness, greater peace. If you don't mind the advice of a sinner who has returned to God's ways... Otherwise, feel free to flip to the next post.

First let me say that you are not responsible for the temptation. We do not choose to be tempted. You are overworked, and stressed out. When that happens to husbands, they want to experience the love of their wives through sex. That hasn't been happening, and so you feel unloved. I am so sorry for what you are going through. I know what it feels like to feel unloved -- it's like a vacuum in your soul that hungers for affection.

Keep in mind that not all of this is your wife's choosing either. I can speak from experience that when we have a little one, God has designed our very bodies to produce hormones to attach us to that little blessing. The baby becomes more important than our own life. So the fact that she is obsessed is undoubtedly a hormonal thing. That doesn't mean she can't consciously make the effort to be with you. But consider that all those 10-12 hours you are at work, she is working too. Even when she sleeps, she is only half sleeping because she is monitoring the baby. Whether she has a job, or is a full time mom, I'm sure that in the evenings the baby becomes her responsibility. It is one of the most stressful jobs there is. By the time you get home, she is certainly going to be wiped out. Women's sexuality is not like men's. We are very complicated. Things like feeling overwhelmed, tired, anxious, preocuppied, put down, or beset by interpersonal strife are going to throw a wrench into the works of our libido. She may simply be being honest with you. She can't do it. Would you want to have sex with her knowing she was just laying there and having a perfectly miserable time?

That information doesn't really solve the problem, eh, but it may take away some of its sting. I'm saying she may very well be doingthe best she can be doing, just as you are.

The lack of sex when the kids are small is one of the most common problems in marriages, so please know that you have a lot of company! You can try to work things out, negotiate with your wife, find ways to lower her stress, figure out how to get home earlier so you can help out with the home (biggest foreplay: do the dishes). But in the end, time will pass, the little ones grow older, and you have more time and more of her attention, and things will be much more comfortable for you.

Let's turn our attention now to the temptation, water set before a thirsty man.

You are having what is called an emotional affair. No sexual activity has happened, but you are going to her for succor, for *intimate* advice, for deep companionship--those are things for which you are to go only to your wife. Many women will tell you that their man having an emotional affair is worse than if he had just gone to a prostitute. It's a betrayal of the heart, which promised to love and cherish the wife, not another.

The other woman is not going to give you what you think she is. Nor is she the ideal woman you are imagining her to be. You are infatuated, which means you are not seeing clearly. Any relationship you establish with her will be contaminated because it will be built on a rotten foundation, ready to crumble. You will never be able to trust each other to remain faithful, because your relationship was built upon infidelity. I desperately tried to explain this to my best friend about 20 years ago, and she divorced her husband for a man she was having an affair with. We reconnected last month, and she cried as she told me that she found out he had been unfaithful all throughout their marriage. Please, please, hear this, my brother. Your relationship with this woman is ALREADY fatally flawed. It has no real future. This beautiful possibility that you are imagining, that you are afraid of loosing, it is an illusion, a deceit born out of your body's hormones.

Let's talk about what is real. You have a covenantal relationship with a woman, and a beautiful baby. A family. You have no idea how lucky you are. Your marriage is strained right now, but life is like waves crashing at on the shore. They rise and break and rush, and then recede back into the deep, only to rise and break and rush once more. There is a certain beauty to their ebb and flow if you watch from a distance. The trick is not to get caught in the undertow. I guess what I'm trying to say is... This too shall pass.

Let's talk about what's right. What is right is to do everything possible to save your marriage. Are you ready to listen?

End things immediately with this woman. All unnecessary contact has to stop. Absolutely no phone calls, no texts, no emails. You see her only in the office, and you never EVER see her alone. If you have to go into a room with her, such as if you have to deliver a memo or something, make sure the door is left open. There is no seeing her at lunch, on break, or any other time outside of work. There is no sneaky stuff about praying together or any of that. If she violates any of this, block her immediately (phone, email, etc.) It's over, and it's over now.

Make sure that when you end it with her, that you apologize to her as well. This really wasn't fair to her. Her heart obviously got entangled, and you were not an available man. There is no way to do this without hurting her. Pull the bandaid off quickly.

Your problems began long before this affair. Indeed the affair is simply the symptom of the problem. When the affair is ended, your work has just begun. It is work for the both of you. I notice you were saying she has some insight into her share of the problem, but that her insight doesn't seem to ever result in any substantial changes. You need to follow that up. Find out what is stopping her from changing. It requires patience, real listening on both your parts, and a desire by both of you to make this work.

Did you tell her about the affair? You said you had bared your heart about how you felt, but it wasn't clear whether you told her you had fallen for another woman. I don't want to make any assumptions.

Remember, the affair is a symptom of the underlying problems. If you can't work this out between the two of you, get some help. I believe in the wisdom of seeking the advice of counselors, and marriage counselors are specially trained in teaching us conflict resolution and problem solving.

In the meantime, try to remember that no matter how much you want sex, no one dies for lack of sex. I haven't had sex in 18 years, and I'm stilling living, breathing, and indeed am a very happy person. You are going to be okay. Really, you are. Life goes on, and things have away of working themselves out. As long as we don't do incredibly stupid things, they usually work out in our favor. Waves come and go.
 
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You feel that you are not happy because you are not getting the things you want, but one day if you come to realize that your happiness does not rely on getting those things, you will no longer need those things to be happy.

Happiness depends on your perspective. You can still be happy even if your circumstances haven't changed.

Not that I speak from want, for I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am. I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need. (Philippians 4:11-12 NASB)​
This is the voice of wisdom.
 
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I've read through a few threads on here and the one that really hit me hard was from user
flipspecial. It really broke me to pieces and I had a complete meltdown yesterday reading it. My situation is a little different. My wife and I have been married now for 10 years and we now have a 19 month old baby. It started out great and we we're having the time of our lives until out of nowhere, things started to go downhill meaning she didn't want to have sex as much, we didn't communicate as well, we didn't spend money wisely and so on. To be brief, she was a professing believer when we married, I was not, but didn't know it until some years later when God convicted me during a revival we we're attending. I professed but didn't posses until this revival. After this my life was changed and so was our marriage. Even still, she doesn't show hardly any interest in sex, shows very little care to do things around the house and so on. I admit I haven't been perfect either but I do my part as in manly things and always make sure she has everything she needs. Every since the baby, things went from bad to worse. She dedicates everything to this baby and I completely understand why, they're an amazing gift from God. However since the baby her negligence for me as her husband has went to full throttle. I work 10-12 hr days and come home to no meal. After she puts the baby to sleep, I want to have sex which she huffs and puffs about and sometimes will but most of the time just goes to bed leaving me hanging. I say all that to give you an idea of what our marriage looks like before I go into this new situation I'm in. The past few weeks have been the worst pain emotionally I've ever experienced. I believe it's God convicting me of the feelings I'm having but I need help and prayer because it's killing my inside. I feel like vomiting thinking about it. I can't hardly eat anything, my work performance is awful because I can't focus.

There is a coworker of mine that I've worked with now for about 18 months. Up to this point there has been absolutely nothing between us, just a typical work "good morning" and on about your day until about 2 weeks ago I could see she was very shaken about something. Me being the softy I am, asked her if she was ok. Well it let loose a hour long discussion about how her fiance was a drunk and treated her like crap and so on. Well I know her fiance personally and he is a troubled individual and she deserves much better. She is also a professing Christian that attends church regularly and lives the Christian life. Well after talking with her that day, I felt a connection with her like I've never felt before. I felt like I needed to continue to help her through her situation. Since this day, we started texting and talking on the phone about our situations helping each other with experience and scriptures. Well in my current state with my marriage hanging on a thread, something was happening I didn't realize until yesterday reading through Flip's thread. I saw the term "limerence" and after googling it I was like...that's not me because I'm not obsessed or infatuated for her, she just checks all of the boxes I want for a wife. My wife used to check all of the boxes but something has changed and she doesn't seem to care anymore. This friend of mine has told me over and over that she doesn't want me to leave my wife her for but if I did she was there. She keeps telling me that I need to pray and listen to God which I am doing. Yesterday I poured out my heart go God and told him, whatever it takes to lift this burden, pain, and conviction, do it because I'm at the end of my ropes. This friend of mind is a great person, she comes from a past similar to mine as in moved out early and forced to grow up sooner than most people. I don't really believe in divorce but have been studying on biblical principles that allow it because I have a hard time believing God wants people to remain miserable. I know that God hates divorce and that it's probably not the best way to go simply because of the pain, confusion and devastation it causes. There is absolutely nothing physical between us, it's nothing sexual, just emotional attachments right now. I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

First, please pray for me, I'm in inner turmoil and can't function like this. I believe my brain is telling me what's right based on truth and my sinful heart is being deceived.
What I'm worried about is, that if I end this friendship and walk away that I'm missing out on something that could've been. She is a wonderful and strong person that I could easily be with because she possess everything I long for. Sometimes it feels like holiness trumps happiness. I have a hard time believing God wants someone to be miserable just to stay married. I've been praying for a long time to heal the marriage but nothing changes. To add to my mess, in my breakdown yesterday, I came out and told my wife what all I was feeling and why I believed I'm feeling like I am. She confessed to me her shortcomings and that she has put the baby first instead of God and would work to put God back first, then me, then the baby. This isn't the first time she's said this and nothing changed.

Please, if anyone has similar experience, help me.

Thank you.


A couple things;

1. It is not all about you, it is about your baby and wife.
2. Working long days is what a man does to provide for his family
3. Your playing with fire
4. The grass is not greener on the other side
5. Sacrificing ourselves for our family is what you are suppose to do, man up.

When was the last time you did something for her? Brought home dinner? Asked to watch the baby on a Saturday while she does something for herself?
 
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I have been married nearly 20 years and my wife is a lot like that. Sex has become functional rather than enjoyable and that in itself leaves me with strong temptation to cheat on her sometimes although I never have. She doesnt put much effort into our relationship, if any at all. I have to lead in any effort in our relationship and I do sometimes get some response to it. We have talked about it and she says she will try but never does. Occasionally she will say something has brought us closer together but it never lasts. I have told her the truth that I got fed up of putting all of the effort into making our relationship work and she needs to as well but to no avail. She too is more interested in the children than me. I'd say the order is children, God, her mum, and then maybe me. She works with children as well and the children she works with seem to be more important to her than me and they are not even her own children.

I have prayed about it and now focus on God, hobbies and work more to fill the void left in my relationship. Its working fairly well at the moment. My focus in on what I do and not other people. My desire for sex has also greatly diminished as a result of it being functional for so long.

One other point is the claim that looking after a child is like a full time job. If anyone really believes that they they really need to look at themselves. When my daughter was born I was working normal Monday - Friday hours and my wife was working shifts. She wanted to do shifts that would allow us to take care of our daughter without the need for childcare so when I got home from work and at weekends I would regularly be looking after her by myself while my wife worked. I can tell you it is far easier and nicer looking after a child and doing housework than it is being out at work in a "proper" job. Both my wife and myself knew this. For the record this included me having to do up to 3 night feeds when I had to get up for work the next day.

If you think looking after a child is just like working I would say that you are not fit to be parents. Maybe you dont love your child enough to see them as anything other than work. Maybe you dont know how to be a parent in a way that works for you as well. There are certain things that need to be taken into consideration. One is that anyone looking after a child full time needs some time doing something else. The worst thing a mum can do is just stay at home all the time with the children. My wife worked shift work in a job she loved (probably more than me). We couldn't afford for her no to work so didnt have much of a choice but it meant she was doing something else and I had our daughter.

When she was on maternity leave she made sure she went out most days, mother and toddler groups mainly but other things she wanted to do as well. Enough to give her regular and meaningful contact with other adults. I even did some myself when my wife was working although not many as a man at some of them was a bit strange. There are normally a few about and churches often do ones that are cheap or free.

This is very important as without regular adult contact outside of the family I have seen friends wives become very toxic. They want to stay home with the child but dont do anything other than stay at home. It then becomes a chore to be at home with the kids and they take it out on their husband resulting in a relationship breakdown. They also sometimes become overly attached to the children as well in a way that is not healthy. One in particular comes to mind who cleaned the house repeatedly every day and did every single thing for the child as he was growing up. She became OCD and over protective and he ended up with social issues as a result of it. The husband would come back from a long shift with paperwork to do and she would go ballistic at him because he made a mess by doing something like getting his own dinner and leaving the plate on a table while he did his paperwork and then literally putting the child on him or his paperwork and scream that he was having the child as she needed to get out of the house. Make sure the carer has break but its not hard work looking after a child.
 
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I've read through a few threads on here and the one that really hit me hard was from user
flipspecial. It really broke me to pieces and I had a complete meltdown yesterday reading it. My situation is a little different. My wife and I have been married now for 10 years and we now have a 19 month old baby. It started out great and we we're having the time of our lives until out of nowhere, things started to go downhill meaning she didn't want to have sex as much, we didn't communicate as well, we didn't spend money wisely and so on. To be brief, she was a professing believer when we married, I was not, but didn't know it until some years later when God convicted me during a revival we we're attending. I professed but didn't posses until this revival. After this my life was changed and so was our marriage. Even still, she doesn't show hardly any interest in sex, shows very little care to do things around the house and so on. I admit I haven't been perfect either but I do my part as in manly things and always make sure she has everything she needs. Every since the baby, things went from bad to worse. She dedicates everything to this baby and I completely understand why, they're an amazing gift from God. However since the baby her negligence for me as her husband has went to full throttle. I work 10-12 hr days and come home to no meal. After she puts the baby to sleep, I want to have sex which she huffs and puffs about and sometimes will but most of the time just goes to bed leaving me hanging. I say all that to give you an idea of what our marriage looks like before I go into this new situation I'm in. The past few weeks have been the worst pain emotionally I've ever experienced. I believe it's God convicting me of the feelings I'm having but I need help and prayer because it's killing my inside. I feel like vomiting thinking about it. I can't hardly eat anything, my work performance is awful because I can't focus.

There is a coworker of mine that I've worked with now for about 18 months. Up to this point there has been absolutely nothing between us, just a typical work "good morning" and on about your day until about 2 weeks ago I could see she was very shaken about something. Me being the softy I am, asked her if she was ok. Well it let loose a hour long discussion about how her fiance was a drunk and treated her like crap and so on. Well I know her fiance personally and he is a troubled individual and she deserves much better. She is also a professing Christian that attends church regularly and lives the Christian life. Well after talking with her that day, I felt a connection with her like I've never felt before. I felt like I needed to continue to help her through her situation. Since this day, we started texting and talking on the phone about our situations helping each other with experience and scriptures. Well in my current state with my marriage hanging on a thread, something was happening I didn't realize until yesterday reading through Flip's thread. I saw the term "limerence" and after googling it I was like...that's not me because I'm not obsessed or infatuated for her, she just checks all of the boxes I want for a wife. My wife used to check all of the boxes but something has changed and she doesn't seem to care anymore. This friend of mine has told me over and over that she doesn't want me to leave my wife her for but if I did she was there. She keeps telling me that I need to pray and listen to God which I am doing. Yesterday I poured out my heart go God and told him, whatever it takes to lift this burden, pain, and conviction, do it because I'm at the end of my ropes. This friend of mind is a great person, she comes from a past similar to mine as in moved out early and forced to grow up sooner than most people. I don't really believe in divorce but have been studying on biblical principles that allow it because I have a hard time believing God wants people to remain miserable. I know that God hates divorce and that it's probably not the best way to go simply because of the pain, confusion and devastation it causes. There is absolutely nothing physical between us, it's nothing sexual, just emotional attachments right now. I feel deep down that because of my covenant to God and my wife, regardless of whether I'm happy or not that I'm obligated to honor it.

First, please pray for me, I'm in inner turmoil and can't function like this. I believe my brain is telling me what's right based on truth and my sinful heart is being deceived.
What I'm worried about is, that if I end this friendship and walk away that I'm missing out on something that could've been. She is a wonderful and strong person that I could easily be with because she possess everything I long for. Sometimes it feels like holiness trumps happiness. I have a hard time believing God wants someone to be miserable just to stay married. I've been praying for a long time to heal the marriage but nothing changes. To add to my mess, in my breakdown yesterday, I came out and told my wife what all I was feeling and why I believed I'm feeling like I am. She confessed to me her shortcomings and that she has put the baby first instead of God and would work to put God back first, then me, then the baby. This isn't the first time she's said this and nothing changed.

Please, if anyone has similar experience, help me.

Thank you.

I do not know what it is like to go through what you are going through right now and I definitely don’t want to find out. But in a marriage’s point of view, whether a Christian one or not, leaving a husband or a wife for another person is never wise.

And in a Christian point of view, that girl you are having feelings for certainly does not have the wisdom that is from God. She obviously does not know what she is doing either. She knows you are married and she knows your conversations are giving you both a connection that will weaken your marriage even more. and if she is from God she should not be talking to you anymore right now and instead wait for the right time and the right man in the future.

As for your marriage, I am not an expert as I have only been married 3 years and not much experience. But please try even harder to save your marriage? Maybe ask a family to baby sit for 2 nights or so? Take her somewhere different and make her feel special and show her how serious you are in fixing your marriage. Remind her of those times when you got married? As a wife myself, I know for sure that a happy wife will make a happy husband and vice-versa and someone will have to initiate that. You can try to initiate it I suppose?
 
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I'm a father of 5, married for 22yrs, and I understand what you're saying. However, I've learned some things.

First, that woman you're dating (call it what it is) is not your friend. She is the problem because she is feeding your passions and focusing on you. Your relationship with her is akin to pornography. Right now it is more of imagination that reality. Stop watching TV and listening to love songs to get an idea of what love is like.

Second, the seasons of your marriage are not short whims. You'll have long periods of time when marriage is really good and seasons even you struggle. Take time in the struggle to focus on prayer.

Third, Google "postpartum depression." I've seen my wife go through 5 pregnancies to term. Sex is for having babies. Having babies changes things for everyone. Again, don't get your ideas about "good sex" from media or somebody's bestseller.

Fourth, and I hope I misunderstood, don't EVER use this other woman as leverage against your wife. That is without excuse. You really need to apologize to your wife and break off contact with that woman. Love your wife. Be honest with her and do so with humility. You've sinned against her.

I don't write this to cause you shame, but to affirm what you already know. Repent, apologize, and move on. Once you get this worked out, you can address the other issues.

Do that and things will head in the right direction.
 
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I may be missing out on something that could've been if my marriage eventually ends.
If you're thinking like that then you are already in emotional adultery.

I would interpret her contact with that timing as a test of your heart in respect of what you had been saying to God.

God cannot be mocked. So choose the right thing and do it.
 
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One other point is the claim that looking after a child is like a full time job. If anyone really believes that they they really need to look at themselves I can tell you it is far easier and nicer looking after a child and doing housework than it is being out at work in a "proper" job.
If you think looking after a child is just like working I would say that you are not fit to be parents. Make sure the carer has break but its not hard work looking after a child.


there is a big difference between "looking after a child" or "babysitting" as some men say and raising a child

having worked outside the home for several yrs at jobs including supervision and more than one job at a time up to 14 hrs in a day, I can compare

raising a child and being a parent is not a "cake" job

when you're working outside the home, don't you get breaks and lunch, aren't you compensated with money, often health care and other perks, have adult conversation everyday, get to take a shower before going to work, and are there any employees screaming, crying, pooping, and spitting up on you?
do any of your co-workers have a 5 second attention span?
is your job outside the home, the most important job in the world, teaching a human being about God's love and how to get along with others in the world?
do you put your co-workers above yourself at all times?

are you a teacher, counsellor, chauffeur, cook, nurse all rolled into one?
 
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It’s important to remember that taking care of a child is not a cake job - and it does a disservice to God’s desire for families when people say that. I truly worry about what it will be like when God willing we have children, since I’ll still need to work. It honestly will be like two jobs - well worth every minute of it though. By far, the most important job for us all is to be loving caring parents who provide for our children, not just monetarily, but emotionally and spiritually.

Today’s society often looks down on taking time away from work to be with children. It is a blessing if someone is able to do that, but it certainly is not an “easier” job.

Perhaps thanking your wife for what she does in regards to taking care of your child will help your marriage as well. I’m not saying you don’t do this already - but it helps to know what you are doing is appreciated and not considered to be a lesser job.
 
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One other point is the claim that looking after a child is like a full time job. If anyone really believes that they they really need to look at themselves. When my daughter was born I was working normal Monday - Friday hours and my wife was working shifts. She wanted to do shifts that would allow us to take care of our daughter without the need for childcare so when I got home from work and at weekends I would regularly be looking after her by myself while my wife worked. I can tell you it is far easier and nicer looking after a child and doing housework than it is being out at work in a "proper" job. Both my wife and myself knew this. For the record this included me having to do up to 3 night feeds when I had to get up for work the next day.

If you think looking after a child is just like working I would say that you are not fit to be parents. Maybe you dont love your child enough to see them as anything other than work. Maybe you dont know how to be a parent in a way that works for you as well.

I don't want to debate this, exactly, but I do want to say that this does not necessarily capture your wife's experience of being home with a child. I've been at home with my child, I've worked part time, and I've worked full time since she was born. For me, working full time was hands-down easiest and most pleasant. At home my mental health suffered (this is key; I did read your post and wonder about PND for your wife, OP); and I struggled with the monotony, the difficulty and the boredom of a young child. Don't misunderstand me, I love my child, but I can remember when I was at home and my husband was working how desperate I was for him to get home and give me a break.

Now, all of us could share our different experiences and none of them might line up with your wife's experience. The really important thing to do is to ask her, and listen with genuine care to what she tells you. But if what she tells you is that she's struggling, anxious, depressed, exhausted, bored (or anything like it) please don't then use that to attack her as a bad parent. She feels what she feels, and it's valid. The thing then is for both of you to work on getting the needs of both of you met. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if your wife's biggest need is simply enough sleep. For many mums, that doesn't come for some years after the birth of a child...
 
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You made a commitment to your wife when you married her. In sickness and in health, in good times and in bad. You married her and you cannot take it back just because things are unpleasant right now. Do not pursue this woman. Satan is tempting both of you. I know that it is hard but you have to cut off contact with her. No excuses. No rationalizing.
 
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It’s a huge disservice to the family and God’s desire for families when people say that being a stay at home mother is a cake job. I truly worry about what it will be like when God willing we have children, since I’ll still need to work.
Today’s society often looks down on taking time away from work to be with children. It is a blessing if someone is able to do that, but it certainly is not an “easier” job.

agree, that's why I had to say something

I chose to be a SAHM and happy to do so

can say without a doubt that being a parent is worthwhile and the best job in the world
but everyday is different, and planning, teaching, being creative
doesn't come naturally to everyone and the young ages of children are harder on some then others

I loved the young yrs as had experience with young kids
but know for some moms, those are the toughest yrs

dads support wives/not say she has the easy job
 
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