Age of the earth, why is it relevant?!

[yeshuaslavejeff]

We are all sinners. So your claim would mean he doesn't hear anyone. But even if he did, those that are more educated are more sinful and therefore more likely to never hear from him? Is that the meaning of your post or did I miss something?

What I posted was practically quotes from Yahweh's Word, in line with His Plan and Purpose, which you seem to be missing entirely. Later if I have time and Yahweh permits, I will go back for a post or two, and post the Scripture basis directly.

 

[PaulCyp1]

Every denomination is dogmatic about its beliefs - more than 6,000 of them, each claiming absolute truth because they got their beliefs "right out of the Bible". And that doesn't even include the 20,000 so-called "non-denominational" churches, which are simply mini-denominations. Do you suppose this just might be the reason Jesus Christ founded ONE Church, said it was to remain ONE, and promised that ONE Church "The Holy Spirit will guide you into ALL truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon Earth is bound in Heaven", and "He who hears you hears Me"! Which is why that ONE Church remains ONE in belief, ONE in teaching, ONE in worship, ONE in biblical understanding throughout the world after 2,000 years, while those who have defected from His Church have descended into doctrinal chaos after a few hundred years. You just can't beat God's plan.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No.

 

[Tetra]

The length of a day is defined in Genesis chapter one. (one planet rotation)
We either believe it, or don't believe it.

Adam was created on the sixth day.
We either believe it, or don't believe it.

How many years Adam lived is given.
We either believe it, or don't believe it.

The lineage of Christ goes all the way back to Adam.
We either believe it, or don't believe it.

If you don't believe any of that, you are not a Bible believing Christian.
That's why it matters

You can believe all of that and believe the earth is old.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Every denomination is dogmatic about its beliefs - more than 6,000 of them, each claiming absolute truth because they got their beliefs "right out of the Bible". And that doesn't even include the 20,000 so-called "non-denominational" churches, which are simply mini-denominations. Do you suppose this just might be the reason Jesus Christ founded ONE Church, said it was to remain ONE, and promised that ONE Church "The Holy Spirit will guide you into ALL truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon Earth is bound in Heaven", and "He who hears you hears Me"! Which is why that ONE Church remains ONE in belief, ONE in teaching, ONE in worship, ONE in biblical understanding throughout the world after 2,000 years, while those who have defected from His Church have descended into doctrinal chaos after a few hundred years. You just can't beat God's plan.

What church might that be? I can guess.

 

[Saucy]

Blind post:

I think it boils down to defending the bible against a naturalistic worldview. People who claim to believe in a supernatural God refuse to accept that things happened the way the bible says it happened, so they try to fit the naturalistic view within biblical context and come up with all these different theories to explain away what the text actually says.

 

[Devin P]

There is tons of evidence for evolution. Not to mention we can litterally watch microevolution. And according to the Bible God created all life over the span of a few days. Literal or allegorical days are up to interpretation.

Technically, no one has proven it. That's why it's called the "theory" of evolution. A theory is - by nature - a hypothesis that has yet to be proven.

There's too many inconsistencies and omitted things to prove it as of right now. Microevolution isn't really a thing though. It's simply genes pairing and producing slightly different offspring based on dominant and non dominant traits.

 

[Devin P]

No, this is a false dichotomy. You're suggesting here that God couldn't have created mankind through evolution. The two are not mutually exclusive.

They are - because what is written in the bible is not what you're suggesting. It says clearly that on the 6th day He created man. Man and woman He created them.

It said clearly that He told all creatures to recreate after their own kind. Not to "create after their own kind until they become another kind."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Technically, no one has proven it. That's why it's called the "theory" of evolution. A theory is - by nature - a hypothesis that has yet to be proven.

There's too many inconsistencies and omitted things to prove it as of right now. Microevolution isn't really a thing though. It's simply genes pairing and producing slightly different offspring based on dominant and non dominant traits.

No one can prove it.
It has been continually disproven, like every six months I think,
and the enemy continually keeps changing things (including a lot of falsifying facts I think) to get around the proof that it is not true and cannot possibly be true.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

The earth could be as old as it appears, or the Lord could have recently created an earth that appears, geologically, to be very old. I agree with you: What does it matter?

How is it you assume it "appears" old? I see just the opposite, Been all over north America too. One thing is consistent. What is seen is the result of Noah's ( and a hundred indigenous cultures all over the world) flood.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

How is it you assume it "appears" old? I see just the opposite, Been all over north America too. One thing is consistent. What is seen is the result of Noah's ( and a hundred indigenous cultures all over the world) flood.

WONDERFUL TRUTH! Eyes that CAN SEE! (what is)
Yes, clearly all things are in line with and in harmony with Yahweh's Word as He Says,
and
there is NO ONE ELSE who could know PERFECTLY as HE KNOWS. Trust Him, He IS FAITHFUL AND TRUE.

 

[LWH]

Okay, so I'm going to start off by stating my position just so we're clear. I believe the "new earth" theory is nonsense.

However, the purpose of this post isn't to debate the age of the earth, but rather, I'm trying to sort out why it matters how old the earth is?? It seems in my experience, new earthers tend to be obsessively dogmatic in holding this position. It's not sufficient that simply they hold this worldview, it's necessary everyone else does as well. Is there an underlying philosophical position I'm missing here?

It matters because the age of the earth, along with everything else in our reality, has to align with what the bible says due to the fact that many approach the bible from a fundamentalist perspective which causes numerous problems. The basic underlying position that most Christians hold is that the bible is the inerrant word of god and is true and factual. As a Christian, I can tell you that the young earth theory is scientifically impossible just like many of the stories of the bible. Hope this helps...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It matters because the age of the earth, along with everything else in our reality, has to align with what the bible says due to the fact that many approach the bible from a fundamentalist perspective which causes numerous problems. The basic underlying position that most Christians hold is that the bible is the inerrant word of god and is true and factual. As a Christian, I can tell you that the young earth theory is scientifically impossible just like many of the stories of the bible. Hope this helps...

Later, as a Christian , we all pray and hope you learn that the Bible is much much much more true and right and faithful and unchanging than any scientific theory or so-called 'scientifically possible' stuff.

 

[LWH]

I agree! The bible contains a sea of truth! But I would venture to say that the bible supports and is compatible with science. There is no contradiction.

 

[Kenny'sID]

It's not sufficient that simply they hold this worldview, it's necessary everyone else does as well.

That is simply not true.

Curious, do you believe in evolution as well?

 

[Inkfingers]

I'm trying to sort out why it matters how old the earth is??

It's a matter of discovering truth - we should avoid teaching untruths (whether by error or outright deceit). So if we are speaking of the age of the earth, it matters that we are accurate - especially when putting together a picture of our history (and thus our origins).

It seems in my experience, new earthers tend to be obsessively dogmatic in holding this position. It's not sufficient that simply they hold this worldview, it's necessary everyone else does as well. Is there an underlying philosophical position I'm missing here?

It can be the same thing, really. We have to value truth because truth, because it is about what actually IS, is more valuable than untruth. But that which you describe here can also be about ego and power too - so people demand that they are right in order to establish power over others (this isn't just limited to young earthers).

 

[dqhall]

Well because - if evolution is true, God isn't. Either God created all life in one day, or the bible is lying.

Some believed God created life and it took millions of years.

They do not believe the Biblical commandments to sacrifice bulls to Yahweh and burn them on a horned altar.

 

[Inkfingers]

Well because - if evolution is true, God isn't. Either God created all life in one day, or the bible is lying.

So do you take literally the idea that Jesus was a lamb (ie: small, woolly, tending to bleat and gambol)?

It is possible to read Genesis as poetry with calling God a liar.

 

[Tetra]

I agree! The bible contains a sea of truth! But I would venture to say that the bible supports and is compatible with science. There is no contradiction.

I agree entirely.

 

[Tetra]

That is simply not true.

Curious, do you believe in evolution as well?

Depends on what you mean by evolution exactly, but generally speaking, yes.