Why Do Evolutionists Always Battle the Theist and Not the Discussion?

[AV1611VET]

Go on, where is Pluto in the bible?

Here:

Exodus 7:9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent.

Plutoed to magic.

Here:

Ecclesiastes 11:5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

Plutoed to fetus.

 

[AV1611VET]

. That’s better than changing science terminology to suit silly fantasies

Ask 1.5 million children a year if they agree with you.

 

[AV1611VET]

Speak easy.

And carry Something sharper than any two-edged sword?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

And carry Something sharper than any two-edged sword?

Songs of solomon would be the ot answer, what is the new?

 

[AV1611VET]

Songs of solomon would be the ot answer, what is the new?

Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Luke 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

 

[Brightmoon]

Ask 1.5 million children a year if they agree with you.

. Children don’t usually study advanced sciences . So their opinions on the matter of using or misusing scientific terminology aren’t very relevant.

 

[AV1611VET]

. Children don’t usually study advanced sciences . So their opinions on the matter of using or misusing scientific terminology aren’t very relevant.

Oh ... I'm sorry!

Did I confuse you with a [non-plutoed] Biblical term?

Here ... I'll reword it with your science:

"Ask 1.5 million [aborted] fetuses a year if they agree with you."

Better?

 

[Brightmoon]

Oh ... I'm sorry!

Did I confuse you with a [non-plutoed] Biblical term?

Here ... I'll reword it with your science:

"Ask 1.5 million [aborted] fetuses a year if they agree with you."

Better?

what does that have to do with science terminology. Equating accepting evolution, or any other science,with accepting abortion is silly .

No you’re no “ reword[ing] with science “ you just trying to derail by changing the subject

 

[AV1611VET]

what does that have to do with science terminology. Equating accepting evolution, or any other science,with accepting abortion is silly .

No you’re no “ reword[ing] with science “ you just trying to derail by changing the subject

Didn't you ask this?

And what is changing Biblical terminology to suit science?

Okay with you that I answered it?

 

[Hank77]

never mind

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Tell me, can you name any practical applications of religious faith in modern biology-based industries?

There lots of fields of biology that are in fact tangible and real... evolution is not one of them.

Tell me, if we are, according to evolution, essentially just animals, why would you feel the right to judge me if I followed my instincts and killed someone.... some one I perceived as a threat, you know survival of the fittest? Do you pass that judgement on to other animals that exhibit the same behaviour? Why not?

Please consider trying to answer my question as it's genuine... I can never figure out the purpose of behaving morally if we are nothing more than an evolved animal.

 

[AV1611VET]

Tell me, if we are, according to evolution, essentially just animals, why would you feel the right to judge me if I followed my instincts and killed someone.... some one I perceived as a threat, you know survival of the fittest? Do you pass that judgement on to other animals that exhibit the same behaviour? Why not?

I've been on them to explain that for years.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

If I walk into a restaurant, and order off the menu, and they bring my food just as ordered, is that prophecy?

Sarcasm noted...

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Fulfillment proves the prophecy, not the Bible. Let me give you an example: Let's say you have a divine vision, a real 100% genuine prophetic vision. In it, God tells you, "That guy Speedwell angers me because he doesn't believe the Bible. I'm going to strike him with lightning and send him to the Devil." Now, you are seriously impressed by this and begin preaching about it, moved to eloquence by the vividness of your experience and the NT Times stringer hears about it and writes a little article. A few weeks later, I'm walking down the street and Pow! I am struck by a bolt of lightning out of a clear blue sky and vanish in a puff of smoke. Now, the NY Times is really interested and the next day's headline reads, "Divine Prophecy Fulfilled!"

And you know what? By your logic, that would prove the literal inerrancy of the New York Times.

As an Anglican, I am surprised by you lack of faith or belief in the Bible... I mean, whats the point of being a Christian if one doesn't believe the very handbook of the club?

 

[HitchSlap]

Sarcasm noted...

Then you understand what prophecy is.

 

[HitchSlap]

There lots of fields of biology that are in fact tangible and real... evolution is not one of them.

Tell me, if we are, according to evolution, essentially just animals, why would you feel the right to judge me if I followed my instincts and killed someone.... some one I perceived as a threat, you know survival of the fittest? Do you pass that judgement on to other animals that exhibit the same behaviour? Why not?

Please consider trying to answer my question as it's genuine... I can never figure out the purpose of behaving morally if we are nothing more than an evolved animal.

If belief in a god keeps you from murdering people, then please, don’t stop believing.

 

[Gene2memE]

There lots of fields of biology that are in fact tangible and real... evolution is not one of them.

Tell me, if we are, according to evolution, essentially just animals, why would you feel the right to judge me if I followed my instincts and killed someone.... some one I perceived as a threat, you know survival of the fittest?

Firstly, there is very, very strong evidence that empathy and altruism has pronounced benefits when it comes to social species, humans included.

Secondly, survival of the fittest doesn't mean killing someone or something that threatening. It means being the best suited to your environment in order to reproduce. Fitness has a very specific meaning when it comes to evolutionary biology.

Do you pass that judgement on to other animals that exhibit the same behaviour? Why not?

It depends on the context and the cognitive abilities of the animals in question. I may not judge a lizard for eating a beetle, but I would judge a chimpanzee for beating an infant chimp to death with a stick.

Please consider trying to answer my question as it's genuine... I can never figure out the purpose of behaving morally if we are nothing more than an evolved animal.

Those behaviors we associate as "moral" typically have very strong benefits for group survival and/or biological fitness. Similarly those behaviors we associate as "immoral" typically have negative impacts.

Remember that evolution is about populations, rather than individuals, so generally speaking it rewards behaviours that are beneficial to the ingroup, and punishes behaviours that are negative to the ingroup.

This is hardly a new or original idea, and much has been published on this subject in the last 50-60 years. Your personal inability to figure this out doesn't discount the evidence.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Then you understand what prophecy is.

When a man is shown the ruling kingdoms of the world for the next 4 empires and describes them with even the very name they would be called, then that is Bible prophesy... or when it can predict three one of a kind weather events all to take place within the span of a few decades in the exact order 1700 years in advance, that is Bible prophesy... I got lots more, there's dozen about the coming of Jesus with such accuracy that it is statistically impossible for even a few of the dozens of prophesies of Christ's birth and life to happen, let alone all of them.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

If belief in a god keeps you from murdering people, then please, don’t stop believing.

Why would it be wrong for me to do so is what I'm asking... but I suspect you don't want to broach that issue of evolution, do you?

 

[HitchSlap]

I've been on them to explain that for years.

Then you haven’t been paying attention.