Image of the Beast

[Inkfingers]

There is nothing in the bible about Revelation 13 that supports the notion that people are the image of the beast - that is just how you prefer to see it

No, that is a perspective I am exploring. And it is a perfectly reasonable one when we see what the image of God is.

Scripture DOES say that some people escape into the wilderness , and IF you choose to learn about it is IS Petra ,

Scriptural evidence for Petra please (and in a new thread because that is not part of this discussion).

 

[Douggg]

We worship God by becoming the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

I'm suggesting that people will worship Satan by being the Temple of him, and in such becoming the Image of him just as the Body of Christ is the image of the invisible God.

Satan is not omnipresent like God. He is an angel. Of that order of created beings. So it is not a in similitude comparison.

The image of the beast is nothing more than an idol that the false prophet has the people of the world make, similar to the golden calf in the exodus. And then the false prophet in the presence of the beast does a lying wonder that the image appears to come to life and speak.

It going to be a verifiable wonder to the world because they themselves make the image - knowing that it is just material poured into a mold or otherwise shaped to be a statue image of the beast - and is a totally lifeless object in it's natural state. It could also be made from some material like clay. We don't know right now.

But it has got to be supernatural when it comes to life and speak, and the world itself knows that it is supernatural because they make it; all in order to deceive the world - as part of the overall deception to worship the beast as God.

 

[seventysevens]

No, that is a perspective I am exploring. And it is a perfectly reasonable one when we see what the image of God is.



Scriptural evidence for Petra please (and in a new thread because that is not part of this discussion).

If want to explore , do so , that way if you do you should learn in the process,
are you not familiar with scripture that speaks of the remnant that is taken into the wilderness ?

 

[shilohsfoal]

They will because its the mark of rebellion against God and EVERYONE gets it.

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads" (Revelation 13:16)

How many is all?

Scripture does not say everyone in the world gets the mark of the beast.
It actually says the"earth"in English.
But the word it was translated from is "ghay" which could just mean a country.

And from what Ive learned about themark of the beast,and the image.
These things are offend in the country of Israel.Not the world.

 

[shilohsfoal]

If want to explore , do so , that way if you do you should learn in the process,
are you not familiar with scripture that speaks of the remnant that is taken into the wilderness ?

Outside of Israel.

 

[shilohsfoal]

By rebelling against God they get it, because it is the mark of rebellion against God. There is no "not supporting" involved.

Luke 21:23 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers. For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people.

Why did Jesus single out the unbelieving Israelis for wrath and not say there would be wrath upon everyone in the world?

 

[Douggg]

Scripture does not say everyone in the world gets the mark of the beast.
It actually says the"earth"in English.
But the word it was translated from is "ghay" which could just mean a country.

And from what Ive learned about themark of the beast,and the image.
These things are offend in the country of Israel.Not the world.

It will be a world-wide requirement.

Revelation 13:

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[shilohsfoal]

It will be a world-wide requirement.

Revelation 13:

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

No its not.
You havnt learned what the beast is and you havnt seen,his plans

 

[Douggg]

Luke 21:23 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers. For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people.

Why did Jesus single out the unbelieving Israelis for wrath and not say there would be wrath upon everyone in the world?

Because the person who will be persecuting them will their thought to be messiah, King of Israel (illegitimate) gone bad. And the Jews reject his claim of being God.

The person is revealed as the son of perdition - like Judas - betrayer.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Because the person who will be persecuting them will their thought to be messiah, King of Israel (illegitimate) gone bad. And the Jews reject his claim of being God.

The person is revealed as the son of perdition - like Judas - betrayer.

Luke 21:23 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers. For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people.

They receive wrath because they worship the beast and his image.

Revelation 14:9 And a third angel followed them, calling in loud a voice, "If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or hand,
Revelation 14:10 he too will drink the wine of God's anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.

 

[Douggg]

No its not.
You havnt learned what the beast is and you havnt seen,his plans

The beast is the arch villain of the end times.

 

[Douggg]

They receive wrath be ause they worship the beast and his image.

They receive wrath because they refuse to worship the beast and his image - from Satan.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

[shilohsfoal]

The beast is the arch villain of the end times.

Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness, and men began to gnaw their tongues in anguish

But you dont know who he is yet.
He has a kingdom.Not the world.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness, and men began to gnaw their tongues in anguish

But you dont know who he is yet.
He has a kingdom.Not the world.

You mean that I don't know the identity of the person, yet? No, I don't know. But it will be possible ahead of time when the EU reforms into ten leader government with one leader over them - who is a Jew, and has a determined look about him.

 

[shilohsfoal]

They receive wrath because they refuse to worship the beast and his image - from Satan.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

No.At the time of wrath ,it is those who worship the beast in,israel who tecieve wrath.
Those who are sealed by Christ do not recieve wrath.

Ezekiel 9:4 "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem," said the LORD, "and put a mark on the foreheads of the men sighing and groaning over all the abominations committed there."

Ezekiel 9:5 And as I listened, He said to the others, "Follow him through the city and start killing; do not show pity or spare anyone!

Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter the old men, the young men and maidens, the women and children, but do not go near anyone who has the mark. Now begin at My sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were before the temple.

You got it backward.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Jesus is the image of the living God (Colossians 1:15), and man is made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27), so perhaps the image of the Beast (Revelation 13:14-15) is referring to those who embody the Beast...with worship of the beast being the joining of that group and the mark then being a badge of membership?

The Trump administration, peddling Israeli extremism, is killing the peace process, not me - Middle East News - Haaretz.com

How about this.Wait about two years and watch how Palestinians will be forced to pledge thier alegence to Israel and will have to recieve mark of Israel in order to buy and sell in Israel.
If they refuse to pledge thuet alegence to Israel then kill them.
Just give it two years and watch.

 

[seventysevens]

If people reject the mark of the beast they receive wrath from satan

If people accept the mark of the beast they suffer wrath from God

 

[shilohsfoal]

If people reject the mark of the beast they receive wrath from satan

If people accept the mark of the beast they suffer wrath from God

The saints in Israel dont die for rejecting the mark,of the beast.They die for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

They die for thier testimony of Jesus.Not for rejecting the mark.

If anyone wants to flee into the wilderness,they can.

 

[seventysevens]

The saints in Israel dont die for rejecting the mark,of the beast.They die for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

They die for thier testimony of Jesus.Not for rejecting the mark.

If anyone wants to flee into the wilderness,they can.

Saints will not accept the mark if they want to spend eternity with Jesus and , even though they give a testimony , the beast wants everyone to receive the mark, if a person is there they will have to make a choice to either accept or or reject it , accepting the mark is acknowledging that you will worship the beast

the beast does not say , well ok you get a pass for rejecting the mark , if a person gives a testimony for Christ they have rejected the mark

 

[shilohsfoal]

Saints will not accept the mark if they want to spend eternity with Jesus and , even though they give a testimony , the beast wants everyone to receive the mark, if a person is there they will have to make a choice to either accept or or reject it , accepting the mark is acknowledging that you will worship the beast

the beast does not say , well ok you get a pass for rejecting the mark , if a person gives a testimony for Christ they have rejected the mark

The bible doesnt say that people are killed for not excepting the mark.
It only says they cant buy or sell unless they recieve it.

Netayahus plan into collect taxes.
He wants the allegiance of everyone in his country and he wants all to pay thier taxes.