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The media cant dictate if you can buy or sell.
The media is part of it all yes, but there not the beast.
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seventysevens
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an image does not need to show or display images
an image is like a "likeness" like a statue is also an image
before computer technology came into being people taught that the image would be a statue placed in the temple - some people still teach that
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seventysevens
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Understand that the image/mark 666/or the number of his name are all equivalent
they all are of the same value /purpose
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
if a person receives the mark/image of beast/number of his name are equivalent meaning that if you have have any of those 3 things it is the same if you accept the mark
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But there is no statue placed in any buildings that both speak and show images of the first beast that can dictate if you can buy or sell.
The only thing that can is a computer.
We have computers and computer chips, but we dont have statues that can both speak and show images of the first beast.
The bible says, it shows a image of the first beast.
You can not deny what it says.
If people are teaching this lie about statues, then in time they will get the micro chip implant.
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lol , well some people take a little longer to update their teachings , it seems it would be some form of technology , but with the advancement in technology , things change fast , I expect blockchain bitcoin will be incorporated into it ,they are working on making that happen currently , and various forms of AI incorporating 5G wireless that will have 5G cell amplifiers everywhere - corners of buildings - just like cameras are everywhere
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As soon as we build this wall we will be held into America, not being able to leave unless you have the mark.
This wall is not to keep The Spanish out, Its to regulate what's already inside.
I say this because its coming soon, this fake wall is the proof and the lies spread about how danger's Mexico is has helped change the Americans minds. What they dont know, is we all are going to be held captive in our own walls.
The great wall of china is not over nor is the Rise and Fall of the Berlin Wall.
History repeats itself but this time, we have the computer to count every one in there system and mark us all with the computers mark.
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Because the Bible did not say this. It is your private interpretation. The second beast is not a computer nor the mark is a chip or anything like that. You need to find God's definition for the beast first so why don't you do some researching on that.
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But it is the computer and the computer chip, its not my interpretation, its the own bibles interpretation.
You are blind to the world we live in.
You tell me its not a computer, then tell me, what is it? so I can prove you 100 percent wrong.
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that wall will not keep people in anymore than not having a wall keep people out , not enough manpower as any truck can ram through it , and many ways to get through it , and over it if it came to US citizens needing to get out
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that wall will not keep people in anymore than not having a wall keep people out , not enough manpower as any truck can ram through it , and many ways to get through it , and over it if it came to US citizens needing to get out
As I agree with you the government does not, they think it will do both , If they did not they would not build it.
This makes me think they have another plan up there sleeves.
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shilohsfoal
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No.The image is not a mark given Toby and sell.The image is an image of the first beast to be worshiped.
The mark of the beast is given to be used for buying and selling.Netanyahu wants to be able tocollect taxes on every transaction in Israel.
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seventysevens
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The scripture is abundantly Clear
If you refuse to worship the beast
if you refuse to accept the mark
if you refuse the number of his name
You WILL be killed
If you refuse ANY of those 3 things you will be killed by the beast because if you refuse to accept him you will die
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
you can't buy or sell unless you have 1 of the 3 because each one represents servitude to the beast
THAT is why if any man accepts the mark they have forfeited all chances to be with Jesus
you believe whatever makes you happy
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shilohsfoal
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Quote one verse showing anyone being killed for not recieving the mark of the beast.Back up your claim with scripture.
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shilohsfoal
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Im betting when the Israelis start receiving the mark of Israel that most of the people on this board will deny it is themark of the beast even as it is used to buy and sell.
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seventysevens
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Astonishing you don't understand - one more time
if you don't understand I won't care!
The scripture is abundantly Clear
If you refuse to worship the beast
You WILL be killed
If you refuse ANY of those 3 things you will be killed by the beast because if you refuse to accept him you will die
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
The message is if you do not worship the beast you will be killed - very clear
Just as thousands of types of documents that have a clause that stipulates
"your name ______acknowledge in this document you will abide by and adhere to .....XXXXXX and denounce that Jesus is God and that A.C. Beast is God and you deny the name of Jesus etc etc "
You will acknowledge in some form that you worship the beast , it does not mean you go to church to sing praises it means that you accept the beast - in the same manner as you accept Christ
If you refuse you die , you cannot buy or sell or have a job , likely just as in eminent domain laws would be passed by the AC to take your home and property unless you sign the document
The AC does not care if you buy or sell , only just that you worship him as God and will do whatever it takes to make your life so bad that you will worship him and if you refuse he will kill you -it is not about money or greed it is about worshiping him as God , you cannot buy or sell if you don't worship him , and if you won't worship him he kills you
you believe whatever makes you happy
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shilohsfoal
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Why dont you write your own book,of revelation?
Revelation 13:15 The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image would also speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.
This says if someone does not worship the image they should be killed.It doesnt say anytbing about being killed for not receiving the mark of the beast.Stop adding to it.
Revelation 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark--the name of the beast or the number of its name.
This says no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast.It says nothing about being killed for not receiving the mark.
There is no need to add death to this verse.
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shilohsfoal
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Of these saints that are resurrected.Scripture plainly states they died because of thier testimony.Not because they refused the mark of the beast.
Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
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shilohsfoal
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These saints that die in Israel die for thier testimony.
Matthew 10:18 On My account, you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
Matthew 10:19 But when they hand you over, do not worry about how to respond or what to say. In that hour you will be given what to say.
Matthew 10:20 For it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
Matthew 10:21 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rise against their parents and have them put to death.
Matthew 10:22 You will be hated by everyone on account of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
Matthew 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Those that die in Israel ,die for thier testimony of Christ.Not because they refused the mark,of the beast.They do not worship the beast or recieve its mark,but that isn't why they are put to death.They are put to death because of thier testimony.
Matthew 10:18 On My account, you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
Matthew 10:19 But when they hand you over, do not worry about how to respond or what to say. In that hour you will be given what to say.
Matthew 10:20 For it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
Matthew 10:21 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rise against their parents and have them put to death.
Matthew 10:22 You will be hated by everyone on account of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
Matthew 10:23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Those that die in Israel ,die for thier testimony of Christ.Not because they refused the mark,of the beast.They do not worship the beast or recieve its mark,but that isn't why they are put to death.They are put to death because of thier testimony.
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seventysevens
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Their testimony is about serving Christ , and since they worship Christ they refuse to worship the beast , they die because they refuse to worship the beast ,
You need to get a better grasp on the topic overall , it is not about men and what men want to do ..
The beast , the false prophet and the image of the beast are like an unholy trinity - they are all the same team , this topic is about satan vs God as it goes way back to when lucifer said he would be the most high and convince 1/3 of the angels to join in a mutiny of sorts, God took Eden away from lucifer and gave it to Adam, then satan tricked Adam into sinning
What Revelation is about is the showdown between Jesus and satan which we Know Jesus wins -it is not about human men, God just utilizes men for His own purpose , the beast is revealed to be under satanic power as well ad the false prophet which is why they are thrown Alive directly into the lake of fire , not killed like ordinary men -the beast and false prophet are not going to the great white throne judgment , they go directly ALIVE into the lake of fire
until you really understand what it is about you will struggle with this
there is much about this topic you do not understand , and I am not going into the time it takes to explain it , Douggg may , Revealing Times may , and there are others here that may , but it takes more time than I can give it
sorry but you need to learn why there is a first beast , a second beast , and the image of the beast
I have told you that it is not about buying or selling , it is not about you die if you don't get the mark - it is about WHO YOU WILL SERVE
Your soul will be given up if you accept the mark
because accepting the mark is acknowledging that you will worship the beast
And if you do not worship the beast you will be killed
you are taking that verse and ripping it entirely out of it's context and trying to make it stand on it's own which is why you fail to understand this topic
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