• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

How the Mueller Investigation could play out...

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,322
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,572.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Clinton was also hit with obstruction of justice. Remember how well that turned out?

Indeed, he charmed the people and beat the rap. But remember that Clinton was more popular than Donald will ever be.
 
Upvote 0

PeachyKeane

M.I.A.
Mar 11, 2006
5,853
3,580
✟98,602.00
Country
United States
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
And why did that support collapse? Because Nixon just kept making himself look more and more guilty as he descended into blithering paranoia until even his most ardent supporters couldn't stand behind him... and all over a "toothless" obstruction charge.

Luckily, Trump supporters will stand with him even as he's shooting at people in Times Square.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,322
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,572.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Luckily, Trump supporters will stand with him even as he's shooting at people in Times Square.

It may come to that when they start testifying against him.
 
Upvote 0

KCfromNC

Regular Member
Apr 18, 2007
30,256
17,181
✟553,130.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
How the Mueller Investigation Could Play Out for Trump

Short version:

If Mueller finds no wrongdoing, he sends his report to Rosenstein, who doesn't have to release it to Congress (but we all know Donald will order him to)

If Mueller does find wrongdoing, he can:
1. Send it to Rosenstein, who would most likely (unless Donald orders otherwise) send it to Congress, and leave the decision to impeach up to them
2. Send a report to Congress via Rosenstein (see above), and get a grand jury to label Donald a co-conspirator ("The Nixon Option"), using that process to insure a public record that not even Donald could cover up -- if he were so inclined to...
3. Get an indictment (which the DoJ says cannot be done to a sitting president, but could still be argued in front of SCOTUS)

Forgiving the NYT's paywall, it looks like a pretty succinct breakdown of what could happen...

...thoughts?
4. cooperation with state prosecutors to have charges brought there instead of at the federal level.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,322
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,572.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
4. cooperation with state prosecutors to have charges brought there instead of at the federal level.

If it could be shown that Donald only broke state, and not federal laws.
 
Upvote 0

cow451

Standing with Ukraine.
Site Supporter
May 29, 2012
41,108
24,135
Hot and Humid
✟1,120,486.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
It is over for Mueller, people are waking up and the 2018 elections are already over for the dems .. Trump wins 2020 with 400+ electoral votes .. MAGA ..
Molotov America Great Again!
 
Upvote 0

cow451

Standing with Ukraine.
Site Supporter
May 29, 2012
41,108
24,135
Hot and Humid
✟1,120,486.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Indeed, he charmed the people and beat the rap. But remember that Clinton was more popular than Donald will ever be.
Clinton still had to deal with the civil suit and the truth was revealed about his sleazy behavior. Unfortunately it took 20 years for Americans to understand how pervasive sexual aggression was.
 
Upvote 0

TLK Valentine

I've already read the books you want burned.
Apr 15, 2012
64,493
30,322
Behind the 8-ball, but ahead of the curve.
✟541,572.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Clinton still had to deal with the civil suit and the truth was revealed about his sleazy behavior. Unfortunately it took 20 years for Americans to understand how pervasive sexual aggression was.

It took Donald about 3 minutes of videotape to make his base forget.
 
Upvote 0