Does God Love everyone?

[Discreetuser01]

WRONG! GOD LOVES EVERYONE. However, He allows every person to make a choice as to whether they want to cooperate with Him, or not. Those that choose violence, murder, lust, lying, etc., will never make it to heaven, unless they repent.

Romans 1

 

[HypnoToad]

I Dont know the universalist doctrine, so i cant claim to be with them....nor do i wish to be a follower of doctrine, but a follower of Christ. The best ones to intelligently discuss the temporality of the physical hell...are those who have been there and back.

But you liken hell to a refining fire, which is temporary - the gold doesn't stay in the fire, does it? No, it is refined and then removed from the fire. So the only way your analogy works is if hell is also temporary. If hell, however is permanent, then likening it to a refining fire simply doesn't work.

 

[1213]

Simple question with profound theological and philosophical underpinnings, but I am going to poll this closed-ended. If you have more to add, please comment below.

I believe He loves all. It means, He cares all of us. And that means, He doesn’t do anything evil or wrong or bad to us. But it doesn’t mean God is not just and righteous. If person is evil, unrighteous criminal, God judge person and gives the sentence.

God’s love can be seen for example through this:

But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
Mat. 5:44-45

 

[Discreetuser01]

God is love. And his greatest commandment is love one another. You may not like them, but we are commanded to love them. That's tough sometimes.

 

[Discreetuser01]

But you liken hell to a refining fire, which is temporary - the gold doesn't stay in the fire, does it? No, it is refined and then removed from the fire. So the only way your analogy works is if hell is also temporary. If hell, however is permanent, then likening it to a refining fire simply doesn't work.

Hell is forever just like heaven. You only go to one place or the other. Choose wisely.

 

[RaymondG]

But you liken hell to a refining fire, which is temporary - the gold doesn't stay in the fire, does it? No, it is refined and then removed from the fire. So the only way your analogy works is if hell is also temporary. If hell, however is permanent, then likening it to a refining fire simply doesn't work.

I guess, i wasnt referring to the physical hell. What is your knowledge about the physical hell?

 

[Discreetuser01]

I guess, i wasnt referring to the physical hell. What is your knowledge about the physical hell?

Read revelation. And who was it that was asking Abraham? To dip his finger and wet his tounge. He was in he'll and wished it on no one....

 

[RaymondG]

Read revelation. And who was it that was asking Abraham? To dip his finger and wet his tounge. He was in he'll and wished it on no one....

If I told you, you wouldnt believe. Tell me, When was the physical Hell created? In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the earth. When do you believe Hell was created, and can you show me?

 

[Monk Brendan]

Discreetuser01 recommended that I read Romans 1. What struck me was:
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;” But what also struck me was that God did this AFTER THEY CHOSE to sin. So the rest of Romans 1 is about people that CHOSE to deny God.

But one has to take Romans 2 into consideration before making any judgements.
Rom 2:
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Romans 2:1-9

 

[Discreetuser01]

If I told you, you wouldnt believe. Tell me, When was the physical Hell created? In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the earth. When do you believe Hell was created, and can you show me?

Doesn't matter. Fact is it is real.

 

[RaymondG]

Doesn't matter. Fact is it is real.

It does matter. And the only fact you have, is that you believe that there is a physical Hell....Which I am totally fine with......as long as you respect the purgatory of the Catholics as well. Because, in your words, proof "doesnt matter."

 

[Discreetuser01]

It does matter. And the only fact you have, is that you believe that there is a physical Hell....Which I am totally fine with......as long as you respect the purgatory of the Catholics as well. Because, in your words, proof "doesnt matter."

Nope. There is no in between.

 

[Hammster]

WRONG! GOD LOVES EVERYONE. However, He allows every person to make a choice as to whether they want to cooperate with Him, or not. Those that choose violence, murder, lust, lying, etc., will never make it to heaven, unless they repent.

And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' - Matthew 7:23

That’s not the language of love.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But you liken hell to a refining fire, which is temporary

That is part of a humongous false gospel that cannot save anyone.

 

[RaymondG]

Nope. There is no in between.

I like it. What you believe, without experience, is fact, but what others believe likewise, is fiction. I find no fault in it. Continue as you were.

 

[Anguspure]

Simple question with profound theological and philosophical underpinnings, but I am going to poll this closed-ended. If you have more to add, please comment below.

As the maximally great being, God is Love by definition. Any being who fits a lesser definition is not God.

 

[Hammster]

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son to die on the cross.

I think people forget what Jesus said on the matter.

I follow only Jesus.

Me, too.

And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' - Matthew 7:23

 

[Hammster]

John 3:16 for God so loves the world
Another verse I can't remember the exact verse says that God takes no pleasure in sending people to hell. The choice is ours to accept Christ and live or reject Christ and die.

And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' - Matthew 7:23

 

[Discreetuser01]

I like it. What you believe, without experience, is fact, but what others believe likewise, is fiction. I find no fault in it. Continue as you were.

Lol. Ok. I love you anyway.

 

[Anguspure]

No, God doesn't just hate sin...he also hates sinners.

This is a common category error. The opposite of Love is not hate. The opposite of hate is like. The opposite of Love is selfishness.