What is your Hebrew name?

[Alison Peebles]

So how am I given a Hebrew name, may I ask? Because if Sarah isn't my Hebrew name then how do I get one? Surely if the name Sarah is biblical and has the same meaning as my English name Alison, what are the chances of it not being my Hebrew name! and what harm would using Sarah as my Hebrew name do?

 

[brinny]

I am actually re-thinking my own post #2. I may be misappropriating it as well since that name was NOT given to me in a formal Jewish ceremony.

Claiming a Hebrew name is seen in Judaism as claiming a Jewish identity.

Ok, Dave, for clarity's sake, i never "misappropriated" any Jewish name here in this thread. I merely found how my name is spelled in "Hebrew".

In addition, i have never been "troublesome" or adverse or hostile or toxic to Israel or any Jewish peoples.

I have been a STAUNCH supporter of Israel BIG TIME. God Himself put a love for Israel deep in my heart, even though i have never even been inclined to think much about Israel before that.

The support included contributing to an Aliyah program through the "International Fellowship of Christians and Jews" for someone. I would've contributed more, but i could not afford it.

I never SAID i am/have been "Hebrew" or that my name is "Hebrew".

Peace, Dave.

 

[Dave-W]

So how am I given a Hebrew name, may I ask?

By formal conversion to Judaism. (And for us New Covenant believers, that would include Messianic Judaism)

what harm would using Sarah as my Hebrew name do?

THAT is the 10 million dollar question.

I am afraid the answer would go way off topic.

 

[Dave-W]

Peace, Dave.

Agreed. Peace, sister!

 

[Radagast]

I am messianic. Hebrew names (and those who misappropriate them) can be very troublesome in our movement.

The Old Testament does not belong only to the Jews, it belongs to Christians too. There is a tradition, going back 2000 years, of Christians taking Hebrew names like Jacob, Noah, Samuel, Hannah, Sarah, and Abigail.

It is not misappropriation for Christians to take names from the Bible, and I find it utterly offensive and anti-Christian to suggest otherwise.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Found a site that seems to do a reasonable job of equating English names with Hebrew names:

Hebrew Names for English Names Starting with "allison"

 

[Radagast]

Found a site that seems to do a reasonable job of equating English names with Hebrew names:

Yes, that's the site that we've been discussing, and the one that I've been criticising.

 

[Dave-W]

The Old Testament does not belong only to the Jews, it belongs to Christians too. There is a tradition, going back 2000 years, of Christians taking Hebrew names like Jacob, Noah, Samuel, Hannah, Sarah, and Abigail.

It is not misappropriation for Christians to take names from the Bible, and I find it utterly offensive and anti-Christian to suggest otherwise.

You do not get what I am saying. Anyone can have any name.

But for a gentile to claim a Hebrew / Jewish name is offensive to the very ones us gentiles were told to take the gospel to FIRST.

 

[Alison Peebles]

By formal conversion to Judaism. (And for us New Covenant believers, that would include Messianic Judaism)


THAT is the 10 million dollar question.

I am afraid the answer would go way off topic.

I'm confused are Messanic believers considered Christians or Jewish or are they mixed of both?

 

[brinny]

Agreed. Peace, sister!

LOL! Well thank you Dave. I appreciate it.

Can we just have fun in this thread now? I love to see the origins and meanings of names, and even if a name is not officially Hebrew, it's awesome to see how it would be spelled in Hebrew.

My name means a couple of things, depending on where one looks. The two most common meanings are:

"Sword" and "Little Raven".

 

[Radagast]

I'm confused are Messanic believers considered Christians or Jewish or are they mixed of both?

It depends on whom you ask. Some Messianics deny the Trinity, so they are certainly not Christians. Going the other way, many Jews consider Messianics not to be Jews. Here on CF, we consider some Messianics to be Christians, but not others.

 

[Dave-W]

The Old Testament does not belong only to the Jews, it belongs to Christians too.

Romans 3.1
Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? 2 Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God.

Romans 11.29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.​

God gave the OT (and the NT as well) to the Jews. Since EVERYTHING God gives is never rescinded, they still have it.

 

[Radagast]

But for a gentile to claim a Hebrew / Jewish name is offensive to the very ones us gentiles were told to take the gospel to FIRST.

We Christians have been using Bible names for 2000 years, and we will continue to use Bible names. We don't need anyone's permission to do so.

If you're offended by that, I don't care.

God gave the OT (and the NT as well) to the Jews. Since EVERYTHING God gives is never rescinded, they still have it.

The Jews do not "own" the Bible. That's the craziest thing I've heard in all my life.

 

[Radagast]

nm

 

[Dave-W]

I'm confused are Messanic believers considered Christians or Jewish or are they mixed of both?

Traditional Jews call us Christians (and therefore no longer Jewish) while the Classic church position was that we were Jews (and no longer christians.) The writings of Eusubius (circa 300 ad) called us heretics even though he considered our doctrine to be orthodox. We still held to Jewish traditions which he considered an abomination. For that reason we were excluded from the first Nicean council (325 ad) and the following ones as well.

 

[Dave-W]

If you're offended by that, I don't care even a tiny little bit.

Not me. Traditional Jews. And you should care as evangelizing Jews is Job #1 for all gentile believers.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Yes, that's the site that we've been discussing, and the one that I've been criticising.

Yeah, after exploring it a bit, I concur.

 

[Alison Peebles]

It depends on whom you ask. Some Messianics deny the Trinity, so they are certainly not Christians. Going the other way, many Jews consider Messianics not to be Jews. Here on CF, we consider some Messianics to be Christians, but not others.

Ahhh I see so some Messiancs consider themselves Messanic Jews because they don't believe in Jesus? And other Messiancs call themselves Messanic Christians because they believe Jesus is God? So is Dave basically saying that it is forbidden for Christians to have a Hebrew name?

 

[Radagast]

Not me. Traditional Jews. And you should care as evangelizing Jews is Job #1 for all gentile believers.

Strangely, my Bible says the exact opposite: Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

The word translated "nations" (ἔθνη) actually means "gentiles."

 

[Radagast]

Ahhh I see so some Messiancs consider themselves Messanic Jews because they don't believe in Jesus? And other Messiancs call themselves Messanic Christians because they believe Jesus is God?

It's even more complicated than that. Some Messiancs call themselves Messanic Christians, but they don't believe that Jesus is God, so they're not actually Christians at all.

So is Dave basically saying that it is forbidden for Christians to have a Hebrew name?

Beats me. Dave's ideas make no sense to me.