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This isn't said in the Bible.

Comparing apples and oranges, not an actual contribution at all.

LDS don't teach that works merit salvation. This has been explained to you main times now and you've ignored that fact.

The Bible does not say "The Father is a personage of Spirit". John 4 isn't making claims about the nature of God, rather about moving to the higher law of worship with the heart. Again, this has already been explained to you by multiple people.

This isn't a contradiction at all. Rather it's one account of events that happen in one place, and a second account of events which happened in a second place thousands of miles away.

Illogical misapplication of Sola Scriptura. Under your logic, I want to see where in the Bible it explained to me that the Earth is round and the moon's gravity creates the tides.

Not so much.

Where is Joseph Smith or his "book" mentioned in the Holy Bible? Some deluded guy, who claims that he is a "prophet", and "heard" from God Almighty, writes some stuff in a book, and then a bunch of people consider him and his book to be from God! This is utter deception. The willful blindness is all to clear. Here I have shown, as an example, that the BOM teaches that during the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ, there was darkness for THREE DAYS. The Holy Bible, which Mormon's should be listening to, very clearly says THREE HOURS. That is a whole 69 HOURS difference! Yet, some will still try to support LIES, because they are afraid to admit that there are FALSEHOODS in the BOM, and it is NOT in ANY WAY from the God of the Holy Bible. The deception is so deep, that LIES cannot be separated from TRUTH. Joseph Smith, who is supposed to be a "prophet", claims in his book, that Jesus Christ actually VISITED America! There is not ONE Prophecy in the Old or New Testament to back this up, and yet excuses are made to protect this guy! It is no different to some who say that Jesus visited India, which is more LIES, sadly believed by some. This is exactly why groups like the Mormon's, Orthodox, Roman Catholic, etc, cannot accept SOLA SCRIPTURA, so that they can have freedom to teach and believe ANYTHING, and claim that God told them! MILLIONS have been deceived by the devil himself, which the Holy Bible, THE ONLY WORD OF GOD, said would happen.
 
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@TheBibleIsTruth , I'm happy you have you beliefs. Honestly happy. But these attempts to "prove" my beliefs are wrong... there is a much better road that can be taken here.

Jane, I very sadly, and with a heavy heart, see that anything that I say from the Holy Bible, is like "casting pearls before swine". Mormonism is a cult, like the JW's, etc, that teach soul damning heresies. ONLY God the Holy Spirit can free you from the bondage that satan has got you in.
 
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THE ONLY WORD OF GOD.
The Bible itself does not say that it is the only word of God. Every time you make this claim, you are by simple logic proving your own theology wrong. Furthermore, you've continually ignored the explanations given to you, favoring faulty logic instead.

This approach is not rational at all and shuns truth. I'm trying really hard to be respectful here- both of you and your beliefs... but it is becoming a struggle to do so.
 
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The Bible itself does not say that it is the only word of God. Every time you make this claim, you are by simple logic proving your own theology wrong. Furthermore, you've continually ignored the explanations given to you, favoring faulty logic instead.

This approach is not rational at all and shuns truth. I'm trying really hard to be respectful here- both of you and your beliefs... but it is becoming a struggle to do so.

If, as you say that the Holy Bible is not the ONLY Word of Almighty God, to the human race, then exactly what is? You guys have book or books. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their adapted bible. The Seventh Day Adventists have the writings of Ellen G White, and others. The Roman Catholic church have their additional books to the Old Testament, as do the Orthodox churches, along with their "traditions". Some use the "Apocrypha" of the New Testament, like the gospel of Thomas, etc, etc. WHO is right and WHO has the TRUTH? Without a STANDARD for our faith, we are left to accept and reject as we please. Why believe anything that the Holy Bible says, when there is so much that people like yourselves, and the others that I have mentioned here, accept as "truth", which the Holy Bible does not. Do you know, it was precisely for the arguments that you make, that the early Church, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, had to form a Canon of the New Testament Books, and to "close" it, because the early Church, like now, had people, Marcion, Aruis, Valentinus, Cerinthus, and many others, who also claimed that their writings were from the Lord God of the Holy Bible. You compare what you believe to be truth, from the works of Smith, with the other groups I have mentioned, and you will see there are HUGE differences. WHO is right?
 
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If, as you say that the Holy Bible is not the ONLY Word of Almighty God
The Bible itself does not make this claim. To make this claim is to add to the Bible, and which itself violates the claim "the Bible is the only word of God". Hence by simple logic this claim proves itself to be false.

Please acknowledge this fact.
 
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The Bible itself does not make this claim. To make this claim is to add to the Bible, and which itself violates the claim "the Bible is the only word of God". Hence by simple logic this claim proves itself to be false.

Please acknowledge this fact.

The Holy Bible in its 66 Books, is said itself to be "Inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16), which refers ONLY to Scripture. The BOM is NOT Scripture. Period.
 
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The Holy Bible in its 66 Books, is said itself to be "Inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16), which refers ONLY to Scripture. The BOM is NOT Scripture. Period.

If the BOM were of God, it would agree with with bible, which it does not. There is some leeway given with any narrative of things that are written. Hollywood does so all the time, but they go to far--it is one thing to speculate about what is not there--like conversations Noah and his family might have had, but not to be saying and doing things that are clearly contradicting to the scriptures. I believe it was in the movie Noah that the angels were depicted, one of the angels was depicted as a black man--well, the race is not mentioned in the bible but I really have no objections to the possibility an angel could have posed as a black man---however, they then proceed to have some sort of Ninja like battle with swords looking like a Darth Vader fight--with the locals--no such thing happened. Noah talking to some sort of huge treelike spirits was totally ridiculous. At least be accurate about what is written, and what isn't, should line up with the whole of scripture and the character of God.
Many movies of Esther have been done, there is always some made up dialogue, which is OK---but be accurate with the things that are mentioned., they are there for a reason.
Every single church, every one of them, have books written by members of their church. Some have been made into movies--"The Left Behind" being one---most of it is not in the bible, and they twist things around of what is there. But those books make no claim of being the word of God. If you claim that, then it has to stand up to scrutiny.

I believe that Adam and Eve were very tall, compared to todays people. Much is said about the daughters of man and the sons of God and turned it into fallen angels mating with human women which is not biblical, nor in keeping with the scriptures and they use that to explain the giants--when there is not one mention in the bible about the height of Adam and Eve, nothing to suggest they were of the same height as us. They lived for hundreds of years, why would they be small. like us? There were giants in those days--is a far cry from there were giants in those days because fallen angels mated with human women! But people of all faiths like to believe this and hold to it no matter what other info you give them.
Any spirit has to be tested---JS never once said a thing about testing the angel Moroni. He simply believed in his words. If such a being was actually seen -- he should have been tested. Even Gideon tested. JS wrote a book of total fiction. You can not find a heavenly mother mating with God the Father and producing ever existing "inylligences" which make no sense because--ow can you be produced and be ever existing at the same time?

If, as you say that the Holy Bible is not the ONLY Word of Almighty God, to the human race, then exactly what is? You guys have book or books. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their adapted bible. The Seventh Day Adventists have the writings of Ellen G White, and others. The Roman Catholic church have their additional books to the Old Testament, as do the Orthodox churches, along with their "traditions". Some use the "Apocrypha" of the New Testament, like the gospel of Thomas, etc, etc. WHO is right and WHO has the TRUTH? Without a STANDARD for our faith, we are left to accept and reject as we please. Why believe anything that the Holy Bible says, when there is so much that people like yourselves, and the others that I have mentioned here, accept as "truth", which the Holy Bible does not. Do you know, it was precisely for the arguments that you make, that the early Church, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, had to form a Canon of the New Testament Books, and to "close" it, because the early Church, like now, had people, Marcion, Aruis, Valentinus, Cerinthus, and many others, who also claimed that their writings were from the Lord God of the Holy Bible. You compare what you believe to be truth, from the works of Smith, with the other groups I have mentioned, and you will see there are HUGE differences. WHO is right?


Did I miss your thread??? I have no problem with answering your questions.
 
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If the BOM were of God, it would agree with with bible, which it does not. There is some leeway given with any narrative of things that are written. Hollywood does so all the time, but they go to far--it is one thing to speculate about what is not there--like conversations Noah and his family might have had, but not to be saying and doing things that are clearly contradicting to the scriptures. I believe it was in the movie Noah that the angels were depicted, one of the angels was depicted as a black man--well, the race is not mentioned in the bible but I really have no objections to the possibility an angel could have posed as a black man---however, they then proceed to have some sort of Ninja like battle with swords looking like a Darth Vader fight--with the locals--no such thing happened. Noah talking to some sort of huge treelike spirits was totally ridiculous. At least be accurate about what is written, and what isn't, should line up with the whole of scripture and the character of God.
Many movies of Esther have been done, there is always some made up dialogue, which is OK---but be accurate with the things that are mentioned., they are there for a reason.
Every single church, every one of them, have books written by members of their church. Some have been made into movies--"The Left Behind" being one---most of it is not in the bible, and they twist things around of what is there. But those books make no claim of being the word of God. If you claim that, then it has to stand up to scrutiny.

I believe that Adam and Eve were very tall, compared to todays people. Much is said about the daughters of man and the sons of God and turned it into fallen angels mating with human women which is not biblical, nor in keeping with the scriptures and they use that to explain the giants--when there is not one mention in the bible about the height of Adam and Eve, nothing to suggest they were of the same height as us. They lived for hundreds of years, why would they be small. like us? There were giants in those days--is a far cry from there were giants in those days because fallen angels mated with human women! But people of all faiths like to believe this and hold to it no matter what other info you give them.
Any spirit has to be tested---JS never once said a thing about testing the angel Moroni. He simply believed in his words. If such a being was actually seen -- he should have been tested. Even Gideon tested. JS wrote a book of total fiction. You can not find a heavenly mother mating with God the Father and producing ever existing "inylligences" which make no sense because--ow can you be produced and be ever existing at the same time?




Did I miss your thread??? I have no problem with answering your questions.

Do you believe that any writings, like those of EGW, are of equal value or Inspiration to the 66 Books of the Holy Bible?
 
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Do you believe that any writings, like those of EGW, are of equal value or Inspiration to the 66 Books of the Holy Bible?

I was baptized unto Jesus Christ--not EGW--It is the same Holy Spirit--but I do not hold her writings as scripture itself, nor does any other SDA that I know. More than that--where is the thread? Are the visions and dreams mentioned in the NT that there will be given in the end times, from the same Holy Spirit? JS claims to have the final authority of who gets to go to exaltation--that is not from the Holy Spirit. Neither is exaltation. Again--let's try to stick to the subject until you start your thread.
 
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The Bible itself does not make this claim. To make this claim is to add to the Bible, and which itself violates the claim "the Bible is the only word of God". Hence by simple logic this claim proves itself to be false.

Please acknowledge this fact.

Mormonism is a false religion that ADDS to AND CONTRADICTS the Bible.

The Bible warns us about people like Joseph Smith. The more I read the Book of Mormon, the more I see Smith's denigration of the Bible and all other churches.

Proverbs 30
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
 
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The Holy Bible in its 66 Books, is said itself to be "Inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16), which refers ONLY to Scripture. The BOM is NOT Scripture. Period.
2 Timothy 3:16 does not define scripture as 66 books or being limited to that. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't.
 
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Here it is:

ORIGINAL SIN

Mormons:

“Listen to the words of Christ, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Behold, I came into the world not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance; the whole need no physician, but they that are sick; wherefore, little children are whole, for they are not capable of committing sin; wherefore the curse of Adam is taken from them in me, that it hath no power over them; and the law of circumcision is done away in me” (Book of Morori, chapter 8.8)

The Holy Bible:

“Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me” (Psalm 51:5)

“Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12)

“What is man, that he can be pure? Or he who is born of a woman, that he can be righteous?” (Job 15:14)

None is righteous, no, not one…for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3: 10, 23)

ALL humans are BORN as sinners, because NONE are “righteous” until they are “born again”. From the time of their “conception”, they inherit a sinful human nature, which, until redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ, cannot enter heaven. There is not a single verse in the Holy Bible, that teaches that any human is born “sinless”.

WORKS SALVATION

Mormons

“For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23)

“"Besides repentance, our works also include receiving ordinances, keeping covenants, and serving others. While these works are necessary for salvation, they aren’t sufficient. They are not enough because we can’t live perfect lives, but we can do our best to live righteously. By doing so, we invite the Lord’s grace into our lives and qualify for the gift of salvation." (Tough Topics: Are You Saved by Grace or Works? - new-era)

The Holy Bible:

“For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)

“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

“But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit” (Titus 3:4-5)

“But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace” (Romans 11:6)

All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one” (Romans 3:12)

“We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away” (Isaiah 64:6)

No Scripture anywhere teaches that our “good works” can “merit” in any way towards our salvation. It is based on PURE GRACE and the Finished Work of the Lord Jesus Christ, in His Birth, Life, Death and Ascension. James chapter 2 is speaking of “brothers”, and therefore to “works” done after salvation.

GOD THE FATHER

Mormons:

“Regarding them the Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's” (Holy Ghost - The Encyclopedia of Mormonism)

The Holy Bible:

“Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:23-24)

There is not a single verse in the entire Holy Bible, in Its 66 Books, from Genesis to Revelation, that even hints that God the Father has a tangible body of “flesh and bones”. No amount of explaining of this blatant heresy of Joseph Smith, can show otherwise.

THE CRUCIFIXION OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

Mormons:

“And he said unto me that while the thunder and the lightning lasted, and the tempest, that these things should be, and that darkness should cover the face of the whole earth for the space of three days

The Holy Bible:

“Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land until the ninth hour” (Matthew 27:45)

“And when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour" (Mark 15:33)

“It was now about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour” (Luke 23:44)

The testimony of the Infallible, Inerrant, Unshakable Word of Almighty God, the Holy Bible, says very clearly, that the darkness that covered the land, was for three HOURS, and NOT three DAYS.

JESUS WENT TO AMERICA

Mormons


"The Book of Mormon is a book of scripture that details God’s teachings to people who lived in the Americas from about 600 BC to AD 400. The Book of Mormon serves as a companion to the Bible’s teachings. An example of that companionship is found in both the foretelling of Christ’s birth and in Christ’s visit to the Americas...Christ’s appearance in the Americas was important because it represented a complete fulfillment of the covenant God made with Abraham and, by extension, with all who believe in Jesus Christ...This is the reason Christ visited the Americas—to fulfill the Abrahamic covenant by extending the blessings to all of Abraham’s posterity.(What Jesus Christ’s Visit to the Americas Means for Us)

The Holy Bible

Not even ONE verse in the Holy Bible, says anything about Jesus Christ ever visiting America. This is pure false, and has no basis from the Ultimate Word of God, the Holy Bible.

Conclusive evidence from the teachings of Mormonism that show that their book and Joseph Smith are NOT from Almighty God, the God of the Holy Bible, and therefore FALSE.
Original sin:
If you believe in original sin then the son of Mary also had original sin and was not sinless. I don't believe that Jesus Christ was conceived in sin.

God the Father:
The Bible states that resurrected bodies are spiritual bodies:
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:42 - 47)

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
I believe that Jesus Christ has a spiritual body. The Nicene creed states they are of one substance.

The Crucifixion:
I believe that darkness did cover the face of the whole earth for three days in the Americas. Whole earth in the Bible sometimes refers to an area of the earth:
(Old Testament | Exodus 10:14 - 15)

14 And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.
15 For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

Jesus went to America:
There is one verse that states:
(New Testament | John 10:16)

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
I believe this is about the inhabitants of the Americas. They did hear His voice.
 
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Original sin:
If you believe in original sin then the son of Mary also had original sin and was not sinless. I don't believe that Jesus Christ was conceived in sin.

God the Father:
The Bible states that resurrected bodies are spiritual bodies:
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:42 - 47)

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
I believe that Jesus Christ has a spiritual body. The Nicene creed states they are of one substance.

The Crucifixion:
I believe that darkness did cover the face of the whole earth for three days in the Americas. Whole earth in the Bible sometimes refers to an area of the earth:
(Old Testament | Exodus 10:14 - 15)

14 And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.
15 For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

Jesus went to America:
There is one verse that states:
(New Testament | John 10:16)

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
I believe this is about the inhabitants of the Americas. They did hear His voice.

your theology is warped!
 
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The Holy Bible in its 66 Books, is said itself to be "Inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16), which refers ONLY to Scripture. The BOM is NOT Scripture. Period.

What do you believe concerning how the Bible was written, compiled, and transmitted over the years?
 
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What do you believe concerning how the Bible was written, compiled, and transmitted over the years?

The Old Testament consists of 24 Books (Jewish Canon, or 39 Protestant Canon, same number of Books, arranged differently), which was the number before the time Jesus Christ came. In the 4th century A.D., the entire Church, West and East, agreed, under the supervision of the Holy Spirit, that the New Testament Canon was only 27 Books. Both Canons are closed.
 
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The Old Testament consists of 24 Books (Jewish Canon, or 39 Protestant Canon, same number of Books, arranged differently), which was the number before the time Jesus Christ came. In the 4th century A.D., the entire Church, West and East, agreed, under the supervision of the Holy Spirit, that the New Testament Canon was only 27 Books. Both Canons are closed.

On what basis do you argue that the canon is closed?
 
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On what basis do you argue that the canon is closed?

The Old Testament was fully accepted as 24 Books by Jesus Christ, and no others are accepted. the New Testament was fully accepted by the whole Church in A.D. 367, when Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, listed the 27 Books in his Easter letter. The greater majority of Christian Churches accept the 27 Books as closed, though a few for theological purposes don't.
 
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Can you explain to me how that is? I did give Biblical reference to my statements. Let us all do our best to glorify God.

Firstly, original sin is very much taught in the Bible, which means that ALL humans from conception have a sinful human nature. No one is born "sinless". You mention Jesus Christ. Matthew 1:16-18, and Luke 1:35, show that The Holy Spirit ensured that Jesus Christ, though He derived His human nature from Mary, who was a sinner, was sinless from conception. Luke 1:47 says that Mary rejoiced in God her "Saviour", which means she was a sinner.

Secondly, there is not a single Scripture that says God the Father has, or had, a "body of flesh and bones". It does NOT exist.

Thirdly, there is NO Bible verse that says there was darkness for three DAYS, at the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. the Gospels very clear state, three HOURS.

Fourthly, Jesus NEVER went to America. This is pure fancy theology!
 
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