Was peter naked while fishing?

[Kenny'sID]

He most likely had a loincloth of some sort. There is no reason to think he did not have a stitch of clothing on.

Ah, simple common sense logic.

Do you all fish naked? Not me, wouldn't think of it. Sure, anything "could" happen, but lets not forget, never hurts to apply the obvious.

 

[Sammy-San]

Maybe, maybe not.
Strong's No.:
G1131
Greek:
γυμνός
Transliteration:
gumnos
Pronunciation:
goom-nos'
Definition:
Of uncertain affinity;
nude (absolutely or relatively literally or figuratively): - naked.

He was in a shameful state.

 

[Radagast]

He was in a shameful state.

We've already covered the fact that the word gymnos is also used in ancient Greek for men that are lightly clad (for example, in a loincloth).

 

[bugkiller]

I have heard it said, by some posters, that Peter fished in the nude. They cite this scripture below. However it says Peter took off his outer garment. But did Peter have under garments on under his outer garment?

John 21:7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, “It is the Lord,” he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water.

The KJV says it does. So does my interlinear.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

"Some say" a lot of things - it is popular in "some circles" to claim all immersions were sans clothes, including women. (very very unlikely, btw).
"Some say" infants were immersed. That is contrary to some Scripture, so is not likely.
Peter fishing without clothes on is not impossible - but not important today as far as I know.

Who knows ..... But 'proof' of one or the other for most of what "they say" has not been readily available,
if at all.

I believe the historical record says something quite different.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Even if he did it was not a big deal as they all where grown men who was not effected by a naked body.

I remember a time when I was young people where not so modest back then.

When God created Adam he was naked and so was eve, After they ate of the fruit is when they noticed they where ashamed of being naked.

At that time when they where fishing , he did not want to get his clothes wet.

I will grant you partial credit here. There is nothing that says Adam was ashamed because he was naked. Genesis does say naked and unashamed.

God even said it was good. Why is it now evil?

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Leave Peter because we don't really know but explain this

Isaiah 20

1 In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;

2 At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot.
3 And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;

4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


Three years naked can Peter beat that ? And why did God order him to get naked was there no other way ?
Psalms 18:30

Good question. I would also ask if God commands any one to sin.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Yes, i wanted to talk about how this scripture seems to be misinterpreted.

It is done to manipulate, condemn and control others.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Well, the passage is written in Greek. It says that Peter put his ependytēs back on, because he was gymnos while working.

An ependytēs seems to be a coat or robe. The word is also used in 1 Samuel 18:4 in Greek versions of the Old Testament.

The word gymnos does generally mean "naked," but outside the New Testament it certainly includes references to men wearing only undergarments (such as a loincloth). Since Peter was a Jewish man, he would almost certainly have been wearing at least a loincloth.

It is worth noting that the CSB, ESV, NASB, NIV, NLT, and NKJV do not use the word "naked."

The lesson here is that when we get into details like this, we need to either look at the original languages or compare multiple translations.

I wonder what Jesus is talking about in Matt 24 -

7 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Do people here know nothing about slaves?

bugkiller

 

[Danielwright2311]

I will grant you partial credit here. There is nothing that says Adam was ashamed because he was naked. Genesis does say naked and unashamed.

God even said it was good. Why is it now evil?

bugkiller

Because sex is a bid deal now and we look at sex as a bad thing. If its for lust it Leeds to adultery.

 

[Radagast]

The KJV says it does. So does my interlinear.

But the CSB, ESV, NASB, NIV, NLT, and NKJV do not.

And, as I said, the Greek word gymnos doesn't necessarily mean total nakedness.

 

[W2L]

It is done to manipulate, condemn and control others.

bugkiller

Im only interested in interpreting the scripture properly.

 

[bugkiller]

But the CSB, ESV, NASB, NIV, NLT, and NKJV do not.

And, as I said, the Greek word gymnos doesn't necessarily mean total nakedness.

Ok I see what you say. I do think you are being selective.

I disagree with what you say as absolutely correct. I have studied and the word most often means - nude. "Gymnos" is associated with gymnasium in which the Greek exercised nude. Gymnos means without clothing. Slaves and workers in the time of Jesus worked nude. See Mat 24 about returning to get clothes. They were nude. I checked out someone link to the classroom. It is not a site for serious discussion.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Im only interested in interpreting the scripture properly.

I think you are pushing a personal issue and idea.

bugkiller

 

[Radagast]

Ok I see what you say. I do think you are being selective.

When I point out, correctly, that the majority of modern translations don't say "naked"?

And here, FYI, is what the dictionary says about the Greek word gymnos: Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, γυμνός

Slaves and workers in the time of Jesus worked nude.

Nonsense.

 

[W2L]

I think you are pushing a personal issue and idea.

bugkiller

Im just trying to get to the truth of the scripture i posted.

 

[W2L]

Ok I see what you say. I do think you are being selective.

I disagree with what you say as absolutely correct. I have studied and the word most often means - nude. "Gymnos" is associated with gymnasium in which the Greek exercised nude. Gymnos means without clothing. Slaves and workers in the time of Jesus worked nude. See Mat 24 about returning to get clothes. They were nude. I checked out someone link to the classroom. It is not a site for serious discussion.

bugkiller

Slaves worked nude. Thats not exactly a ringing endorsement for nudity in the workplace. Slaves were treated like animals at times.

 

[Radagast]

Slaves worked nude.

That's absolute rubbish. We actually have pictures of Roman slaves from about this time, and they are not nude:

 

[W2L]

That's absolute rubbish. We actually have pictures of Roman slaves from about this time, and they are not nude:

I really dont know one way or the other. Thank you for sharing this.

 

[Archivist]

Actually it is probable that he was totally naked. At that time it was common practice for one of the fishermen in a boat to get into the water to work the nets, and that man was naked. Most common people at that time had only one set of clothing, and they couldn't risk ruining it.