Why did God create Evil ! ! !

[John tower]

( 6 ) : ” THE GREATEST BLASPHEMY : PART 1 . “
August 14, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
Christ said in MATTHEW 15(9) : ” In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men . ” Sadly the mainstream churches today are full of these false doctrines of men that Christ talked about here . The most blasphemous false doctrine of men is the teaching that God did not create all things, and that God is not even in control of his own creation ! How do they arrive at this blasphemous false doctrine ? The bible says to trust in God, and not lean unto our own understanding : PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding , ” Why does the bible tell us not to lean unto our own understanding ? : 1 CORINTHIANS 13(12) : ” For now we see through a glass darkly , for NOW WE KNOW IN PART . ” This is why the bible tells us not to lean unto our own understanding : Because we presently have very limited understanding, and we will think that we see something wrong, WHEN THERE IS IN FACT NOTHING WRONG, WE JUST THINK THAT WE SEE SOMETHING WRONG , BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING . A perfect example of this is the teaching that evil could not possibly have a good purpose in God’s creation : So we say that God has nothing to do with it . Well for starters the Bible clearly states that GOD CREATED EVIL : ISAIAH 45(7) : ” I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ” Well the question of course arises : Why did God create evil ? If we read GENESIS 3(22) : We see that GOD HIMSELF SAYS : ” The man is become as one of us , to know good AND EVIL ! ” So ACCORDING TO GOD HIMSELF , EVIL DOES INDEED HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE : IT IS PART OF BECOMING AS A GOD ! But if we lean unto our own understanding , we don’t understand this, and we think that evil is only bad : So we then say that God did not create it , thus now SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THINGS : ” A SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY .” We say that God does not want evil in his creation : Yet evil is still there : THUS IMPLYING THAT GOD IS NOT EVEN IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN CREATION : Because according to them all these things are there that God supposedly does not want : YET ANOTHER SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD ! The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL : AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD in his great plan , and God is in absolute control, even if we don’t understand it yet ! Listen to what God says to us in ISAIAH 55(8&9) : ” 8 : ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways , ” 9 : ” For as the heavens are higher then the Earth , so are my ways higher then your ways , and my thoughts then your thoughts . ” Following are a few more examples of things that God uses to fulfill his purposes that if we lean unto our own limited understanding, we might think are bad , thus saying that what God does is bad ; 1 SAMUEL 16(14) : ” But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD troubled him .” and 1 KINGS 22(23) : ” Now therefore behold : THE LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT in the mouth of all these thy prophets .” So remember PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all thine heart , and lean not unto thine own understanding .” STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT : YOU ARE ON VERY DANGEROUS GROUND ! PROVERBS 3(7) : ” BE NOT WISE IN THINE OWN EYES , FEAR THE LORD, DEPART FROM EVIL . ” : IT IS A GREAT EVIL TO BE WISE IN THINE OWN EYES AND JUDGE GOD !

 

[Not me]

( 6 ) : ” THE GREATEST BLASPHEMY : PART 1 . “
August 14, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
Christ said in MATTHEW 15(9) : ” In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men . ” Sadly the mainstream churches today are full of these false doctrines of men that Christ talked about here . The most blasphemous false doctrine of men is the teaching that God did not create all things, and that God is not even in control of his own creation ! How do they arrive at this blasphemous false doctrine ? The bible says to trust in God, and not lean unto our own understanding : PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding , ” Why does the bible tell us not to lean unto our own understanding ? : 1 CORINTHIANS 13(12) : ” For now we see through a glass darkly , for NOW WE KNOW IN PART . ” This is why the bible tells us not to lean unto our own understanding : Because we presently have very limited understanding, and we will think that we see something wrong, WHEN THERE IS IN FACT NOTHING WRONG, WE JUST THINK THAT WE SEE SOMETHING WRONG , BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING . A perfect example of this is the teaching that evil could not possibly have a good purpose in God’s creation : So we say that God has nothing to do with it . Well for starters the Bible clearly states that GOD CREATED EVIL : ISAIAH 45(7) : ” I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ” Well the question of course arises : Why did God create evil ? If we read GENESIS 3(22) : We see that GOD HIMSELF SAYS : ” The man is become as one of us , to know good AND EVIL ! ” So ACCORDING TO GOD HIMSELF , EVIL DOES INDEED HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE : IT IS PART OF BECOMING AS A GOD ! But if we lean unto our own understanding , we don’t understand this, and we think that evil is only bad : So we then say that God did not create it , thus now SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THINGS : ” A SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY .” We say that God does not want evil in his creation : Yet evil is still there : THUS IMPLYING THAT GOD IS NOT EVEN IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN CREATION : Because according to them all these things are there that God supposedly does not want : YET ANOTHER SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD ! The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL : AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD in his great plan , and God is in absolute control, even if we don’t understand it yet ! Listen to what God says to us in ISAIAH 55(8&9) : ” 8 : ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways , ” 9 : ” For as the heavens are higher then the Earth , so are my ways higher then your ways , and my thoughts then your thoughts . ” Following are a few more examples of things that God uses to fulfill his purposes that if we lean unto our own limited understanding, we might think are bad , thus saying that what God does is bad ; 1 SAMUEL 16(14) : ” But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD troubled him .” and 1 KINGS 22(23) : ” Now therefore behold : THE LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT in the mouth of all these thy prophets .” So remember PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all thine heart , and lean not unto thine own understanding .” STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT : YOU ARE ON VERY DANGEROUS GROUND ! PROVERBS 3(7) : ” BE NOT WISE IN THINE OWN EYES , FEAR THE LORD, DEPART FROM EVIL . ” : IT IS A GREAT EVIL TO BE WISE IN THINE OWN EYES AND JUDGE GOD !

Isaiah 44:6-7
6 That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun
That there is no one besides Me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other,
7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these.

With this scripture God is talking to mankind that He does indeed bless and curse.

But did he create evil?

To answer that question it needs to be known what evil is.

Evil is “other” or the “isn’t” or “contrary.”

When God first created something it was good. When Satan rebelled he could only do this by bringing forth contrary to what had been brought forth. Since the “good” had been brought forth he could only bring forth what could be brought forth. Which was the “other” the “isn’t”or the opposite of the “is” which was the contrary. This was/is what evil is .

Question you might ask. Why is there evil in this creation?

In Genesis we read “the earth was formless and void and darkness was on the face of the deep” What did God add to this formlessness and void and darkness to make this creation?
He added light, so out this darkness (evil) and light (goodness) God created the world that you and I inhabit. That is why there’s good and evil in this creation.

Question you might ask. Where did the darkness formlesss and deep come from?

Where in scripture are we told that sin (darkness) raised its head? Only in Satan’s fallen kingdom. The formlessness, void and deep was what was left over after Satan’s rebellion. Which God brought to a condition of redemption by adding light to it so in the time to come, creation itself could be redeemed. This is why Satan is called the prince of the power of the air. For the place and space we inhabit is the place and space of his fallen kingdom, just brought to a more base creation. Which took it out of his hand where by he can only act in the evil of it.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[com7fy8]

"Evil" can have different meanings. I think Not me has understood what Isaiah 44:6-7 means >

Isaiah 44:6-7
6 That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun
That there is no one besides Me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other,
7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these.

With this scripture God is talking to mankind that He does indeed bless and curse.

Perhaps another way of saying what you mean, Not me, is that the context of this scripture includes how people have turned against God and so God has resisted those people.

"God resists the proud" (in James 4:6 and in 1 Peter 5:5)

God uses trouble to resist people in their pride. His resistance can come in different forms of trouble. And "evil" can be a word which means "trouble". It does not mean God has done something Satanic!! Partly, because God's resistance is for our own good, in order to keep us from going into much more trouble in our anti-God activities.

And James, I would say, confirms this >

"Let no one say, when he is tempted,' I am tempted by God'; for God can not be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone." (James 1:13)

 

[Not me]

"Evil" can have different meanings. I think Not me has understood what Isaiah 44:6-7 means >
Perhaps another way of saying what you mean, Not me, is that the context of this scripture includes how people have turned against God and so God has resisted those people.

"God resists the proud" (in James 4:6 and in 1 Peter 5:5)

God uses trouble to resist people in their pride. His resistance can come in different forms of trouble. And "evil" can be a word which means "trouble". It does not mean God has done something Satanic!! Partly, because God's resistance is for our own good, in order to keep us from going into much more trouble in our anti-God activities.

And James, I would say, confirms this >

"Let no one say, when he is tempted,' I am tempted by God'; for God can not be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone." (James 1:13)

All that you have said is true. But what evil is in “itself” is “other” “isn’t” or contrary.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[mkgal1]

I think this article does a great job at addressing that question:

------>In Isaiah 54:16, God explains why the flood came upon the earth. Using the imagery of “the blacksmith who blows the coals in the fire” God says, “I have created the spoiler to destroy” (Isaiah 54:16).

The Hebrew word translated as “spoiler” is the Hiphil participle from shachat. It could also be translated as “the destroyer” (cf. NAS, NIV, NET). More interestingly still, the Hiphil participle of shachat is also used in Genesis 6:13 and 17 in reference to the destruction that came upon the earth. By using such imagery, God explains why the flood came upon the earth: it came because the destroyer destroys. This is the fourth principle of the Chaos Theory.

But what does it mean when the text say that God created the destroyer to destroy? Is not the destroyer opposed to all that is good and Godly? Yes! God is not a destroyer, but a Creator. Nor does God “send” the destroyer to destroy. The destroyer destroys because he is a destroyer. And since everything that exists has it origin in God, it can be said that God created the destroyer. This idea is troubling to some, but note carefully how God explains this.

How the Destroyer Came to Be
Before God mentions that He created the destroyer, God says that He created the blacksmith (Isaiah 54:16a). The blacksmith blows on the coals and brings forth the instruments for his work. Though God created the blacksmith, it is the blacksmith who does his work and brings forth the tools and instruments from his forge.

While many tools that come off a blacksmith forge are used for good purposes, some blacksmiths create tools and instruments that can be used for evil. Sometimes, an instrument or tool which the blacksmith created for good could be used to cause great harm to others. Take a knife, for instance. If a blacksmith makes a knife to cut vegetables, but someone else uses it to kill humans, it is not the knife’s fault, the blacksmith’s fault for making the knife, or even God’s fault for making the blacksmith.

This is how to understand the statement by God in Isaiah 54:16b that He created the destroyer. It is not that God was out for bloody revenge, or because God wanted someone else to do His dirty work for Him. The destroyer is not God’s super-secret hit man who does what needs to be done so God can keep His hands clean.

No, Scripture is clear. When God creates, He only creates good things for good purposes. There is no evil intent in the heart of God. The destroyer was not created to be evil, or to do bad things. In fact, it might be best to realize that the destroyer was never created at all as “the destroyer.” Just as God did not create humanity sinful, but we became sinful through our rebellion, so also the destroyer became destructive, also as a result of rebellion.

Death, decay, and destruction are the natural consequence of disobeying God and going against His will. The only way that God can be said to have created the destroyer is by saying that He created a being with genuine free will, and in so doing, restricted Himself from intervening when that free being chose to depart from God’s perfect will.

God did not make or create death and destruction, but did allow for their possibility when He created life and gave freedom to His creation.

It is the same with human beings.~The Flood According to Isaiah 54:7-9​

 

[Mr Darcy]

"Evil" is just another word for "bad". In that vein, the bible says God does "evil". That is, allowing the pursuing Egyptian army to drown in the red Sea was allowing a bad thing to happen to them.

When I shoot a man attempting to rape a woman, I've done "evil" against him.

i.e. God doesn't "create" evil. Rather, "evil" is a subjective term. And the only reason it exists is because God has rules. If God, our creator, said "anything goes", there would be no such thing as evil. Also, When he lays down rules, he is not creating evil. Rather, by giving us free choice to break his rules, he is allowing us to CHOOSE evil.

The conundrum for me is that He created us with a propensity to go against Him. Our "resting state" is to go against him. The proof is in that we have to be taught to do the right thing. It is because, as designed, we are narcissistic.

 

[Not me]

To understand what evil is you need to go back to God’s first creation of something. He first act of creating something brings forth the possibility of “other” or something different than that which was created. But the “other” doesn’t have to be manifested. Case in point;

God makes a tree. But the simple act of creating a tree brings forth the possibility of something other than the tree being manifested, but the “other” doesn’t have to be manifested. So the tree would be forever the only thing known. This is what happened when God brought forth the good. It was forever supposed to be the only thing known. But Satan rebelled and brought forth the “other” or the contrary. Hence the birth of evil.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[1213]

...I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ...

But what does evil really mean? I have understood that evil is like darkness or emptiness. It is really nothing. Evil is lack of good, or God. When God is rejected and God allows it, evil gets an opportunity, because then it is like light is shut down and darkness prevails. This is why, when God forms evil, it means He allows people to be without Him. And as it is told, people wanted to know evil, and therefore were expelled from God’s place where there was no evil.

 

[mkgal1]

As to the question about what "evil" is? Chip Ingram did a Bible study series on the book of Acts called Unstoppable/Diabolical. The first part (unstoppable) is about the beginning chapters of Acts....and Diabolical is from Acts 6-10. It's been one of my favorite studies as Ingram (in my opinion) does a great job of identifying key characteristics of "God's agenda" compared to "Satan's agenda" using the book of Acts as an example.

Satan's agenda is to steal, kill, and destroy. Christ said He "only came that they may have life...and have it abundantly"~John 10:10

 

[mkgal1]

When God is rejected and God allows it, evil gets an opportunity, because then it is like light is shut down and darkness prevails. This is why, when God forms evil, it means He allows people to be without Him. And as it is told, people wanted to know evil, and therefore were expelled from God’s place where there was no evil.

Evil and darkness get an opportunity at that moment.....but I believe this is where "the story" ends (and I do believe that God, somehow, uses that moment as some sort of instruction):

‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes.There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”~Rev 21:4​

 

[John tower]

Isaiah 44:6-7
6 That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun
That there is no one besides Me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other,
7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these.

With this scripture God is talking to mankind that He does indeed bless and curse.

But did he create evil?

To answer that question it needs to be known what evil is.

Evil is “other” or the “isn’t” or “contrary.”

When God first created something it was good. When Satan rebelled he could only do this by bringing forth contrary to what had been brought forth. Since the “good” had been brought forth he could only bring forth what could be brought forth. Which was the “other” the “isn’t”or the opposite of the “is” which was the contrary. This was/is what evil is .

Question you might ask. Why is there evil in this creation?

In Genesis we read “the earth was formless and void and darkness was on the face of the deep” What did God add to this formlessness and void and darkness to make this creation?
He added light, so out this darkness (evil) and light (goodness) God created the world that you and I inhabit. That is why there’s good and evil in this creation.

Question you might ask. Where did the darkness formlesss and deep come from?

Where in scripture are we told that sin (darkness) raised its head? Only in Satan’s fallen kingdom. The formlessness, void and deep was what was left over after Satan’s rebellion. Which God brought to a condition of redemption by adding light to it so in the time to come, creation itself could be redeemed. This is why Satan is called the prince of the power of the air. For the place and space we inhabit is the place and space of his fallen kingdom, just brought to a more base creation. Which took it out of his hand where by he can only act in the evil of it.

Much love in Christ, Not me

You cannot find God’s truth in modern new translations that change God’s truth such as changing Evil to calamity : you no longer have God’s real truth : KJV is the proven gold standard !

 

[Not me]

You cannot find God’s truth in modern new translations that change God’s truth such as changing Evil to calamity : you no longer have God’s real truth : KJV is the proven gold standard !

As long as that is what your personal relationship with Christ is teaching you, you are on course. May I just suggest one thing though. Make sure it’s what your personal relationship with Christ is teaching you and not your human reasoning. For the written Word of God is only for the purpose of pointing away from itself, to the Living Word of God. A road map to the one who loves us.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[LoveofTruth]

( 6 ) : ” THE GREATEST BLASPHEMY : PART 1 . “
August 14, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
Christ said in MATTHEW 15(9) : ” In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men . ” Sadly the mainstream churches today are full of these false doctrines of men that Christ talked about here . The most blasphemous false doctrine of men is the teaching that God did not create all things, and that God is not even in control of his own creation ! How do they arrive at this blasphemous false doctrine ? The bible says to trust in God, and not lean unto our own understanding : PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding , ” Why does the bible tell us not to lean unto our own understanding ? : 1 CORINTHIANS 13(12) : ” For now we see through a glass darkly , for NOW WE KNOW IN PART . ” This is why the bible tells us not to lean unto our own understanding : Because we presently have very limited understanding, and we will think that we see something wrong, WHEN THERE IS IN FACT NOTHING WRONG, WE JUST THINK THAT WE SEE SOMETHING WRONG , BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING . A perfect example of this is the teaching that evil could not possibly have a good purpose in God’s creation : So we say that God has nothing to do with it . Well for starters the Bible clearly states that GOD CREATED EVIL : ISAIAH 45(7) : ” I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ” Well the question of course arises : Why did God create evil ? If we read GENESIS 3(22) : We see that GOD HIMSELF SAYS : ” The man is become as one of us , to know good AND EVIL ! ” So ACCORDING TO GOD HIMSELF , EVIL DOES INDEED HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE : IT IS PART OF BECOMING AS A GOD ! But if we lean unto our own understanding , we don’t understand this, and we think that evil is only bad : So we then say that God did not create it , thus now SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THINGS : ” A SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY .” We say that God does not want evil in his creation : Yet evil is still there : THUS IMPLYING THAT GOD IS NOT EVEN IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN CREATION : Because according to them all these things are there that God supposedly does not want : YET ANOTHER SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD ! The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL : AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD in his great plan , and God is in absolute control, even if we don’t understand it yet ! Listen to what God says to us in ISAIAH 55(8&9) : ” 8 : ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways , ” 9 : ” For as the heavens are higher then the Earth , so are my ways higher then your ways , and my thoughts then your thoughts . ” Following are a few more examples of things that God uses to fulfill his purposes that if we lean unto our own limited understanding, we might think are bad , thus saying that what God does is bad ; 1 SAMUEL 16(14) : ” But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD troubled him .” and 1 KINGS 22(23) : ” Now therefore behold : THE LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT in the mouth of all these thy prophets .” So remember PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all thine heart , and lean not unto thine own understanding .” STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT : YOU ARE ON VERY DANGEROUS GROUND ! PROVERBS 3(7) : ” BE NOT WISE IN THINE OWN EYES , FEAR THE LORD, DEPART FROM EVIL . ” : IT IS A GREAT EVIL TO BE WISE IN THINE OWN EYES AND JUDGE GOD !

God cannot be tempted with evil neither tempteth He any man

God cannot deny himself, so when men deny Him he is not making them do it.

Do you say that when men sin that Christ is Christ who makes them sin?

Is Christ the minister of sin
? God forbid! As Paul said

Here’s a serious question.

Jesus said that the greatest blasphemy is the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. If a man blasphemes the Holy Ghost would you say for even a second that it was Jesus making him do it?? God forbid even the implication of such a thing!!!!

God cannot deny himself.

Be very sober and take heed about attributing the works of God to the devil and visa versa .

John you need to try and answer such a question and not simply quote a verse out of context. A yes or no is needed but I suggest very strongly you do not say yes Yes Jesus causes men blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Such a horrible thing to even suggest. But your doctrine makes God the author of sin.

I suggest you erase this post and this teaching you have here and reconsider it and go back to all you have posted it to and tell them you were wrong in your conclusions there.

 

[LoveofTruth]

( 6 ) : ” THE GREATEST BLASPHEMY : PART 1 . “
August 14, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
Christ said in MATTHEW 15(9) : ” In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men . ” Sadly the mainstream churches today are full of these false doctrines of men that Christ talked about here . The most blasphemous false doctrine of men is the teaching that God did not create all things, and that God is not even in control of his own creation ! How do they arrive at this blasphemous false doctrine ? The bible says to trust in God, and not lean unto our own understanding : PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding , ” Why does the bible tell us not to lean unto our own understanding ? : 1 CORINTHIANS 13(12) : ” For now we see through a glass darkly , for NOW WE KNOW IN PART . ” This is why the bible tells us not to lean unto our own understanding : Because we presently have very limited understanding, and we will think that we see something wrong, WHEN THERE IS IN FACT NOTHING WRONG, WE JUST THINK THAT WE SEE SOMETHING WRONG , BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING . A perfect example of this is the teaching that evil could not possibly have a good purpose in God’s creation : So we say that God has nothing to do with it . Well for starters the Bible clearly states that GOD CREATED EVIL : ISAIAH 45(7) : ” I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ” Well the question of course arises : Why did God create evil ? If we read GENESIS 3(22) : We see that GOD HIMSELF SAYS : ” The man is become as one of us , to know good AND EVIL ! ” So ACCORDING TO GOD HIMSELF , EVIL DOES INDEED HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE : IT IS PART OF BECOMING AS A GOD ! But if we lean unto our own understanding , we don’t understand this, and we think that evil is only bad : So we then say that God did not create it , thus now SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THINGS : ” A SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY .” We say that God does not want evil in his creation : Yet evil is still there : THUS IMPLYING THAT GOD IS NOT EVEN IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN CREATION : Because according to them all these things are there that God supposedly does not want : YET ANOTHER SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD ! The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL : AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD in his great plan , and God is in absolute control, even if we don’t understand it yet ! Listen to what God says to us in ISAIAH 55(8&9) : ” 8 : ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways , ” 9 : ” For as the heavens are higher then the Earth , so are my ways higher then your ways , and my thoughts then your thoughts . ” Following are a few more examples of things that God uses to fulfill his purposes that if we lean unto our own limited understanding, we might think are bad , thus saying that what God does is bad ; 1 SAMUEL 16(14) : ” But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD troubled him .” and 1 KINGS 22(23) : ” Now therefore behold : THE LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT in the mouth of all these thy prophets .” So remember PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all thine heart , and lean not unto thine own understanding .” STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT : YOU ARE ON VERY DANGEROUS GROUND ! PROVERBS 3(7) : ” BE NOT WISE IN THINE OWN EYES , FEAR THE LORD, DEPART FROM EVIL . ” : IT IS A GREAT EVIL TO BE WISE IN THINE OWN EYES AND JUDGE GOD !

And God cannot lie. Satan is the father of lies as Jesus said.

 

[LoveofTruth]

( 6 ) : ” THE GREATEST BLASPHEMY : PART 1 . “
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Christ said in MATTHEW 15(9) : ” In vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men . ” Sadly the mainstream churches today are full of these false doctrines of men that Christ talked about here . The most blasphemous false doctrine of men is the teaching that God did not create all things, and that God is not even in control of his own creation ! How do they arrive at this blasphemous false doctrine ? The bible says to trust in God, and not lean unto our own understanding : PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding , ” Why does the bible tell us not to lean unto our own understanding ? : 1 CORINTHIANS 13(12) : ” For now we see through a glass darkly , for NOW WE KNOW IN PART . ” This is why the bible tells us not to lean unto our own understanding : Because we presently have very limited understanding, and we will think that we see something wrong, WHEN THERE IS IN FACT NOTHING WRONG, WE JUST THINK THAT WE SEE SOMETHING WRONG , BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING . A perfect example of this is the teaching that evil could not possibly have a good purpose in God’s creation : So we say that God has nothing to do with it . Well for starters the Bible clearly states that GOD CREATED EVIL : ISAIAH 45(7) : ” I make peace AND CREATE EVIL , I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS. ” Well the question of course arises : Why did God create evil ? If we read GENESIS 3(22) : We see that GOD HIMSELF SAYS : ” The man is become as one of us , to know good AND EVIL ! ” So ACCORDING TO GOD HIMSELF , EVIL DOES INDEED HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE : IT IS PART OF BECOMING AS A GOD ! But if we lean unto our own understanding , we don’t understand this, and we think that evil is only bad : So we then say that God did not create it , thus now SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THINGS : ” A SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY .” We say that God does not want evil in his creation : Yet evil is still there : THUS IMPLYING THAT GOD IS NOT EVEN IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN CREATION : Because according to them all these things are there that God supposedly does not want : YET ANOTHER SUPER SERIOUS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD ! The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL : AND THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD in his great plan , and God is in absolute control, even if we don’t understand it yet ! Listen to what God says to us in ISAIAH 55(8&9) : ” 8 : ” For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways , ” 9 : ” For as the heavens are higher then the Earth , so are my ways higher then your ways , and my thoughts then your thoughts . ” Following are a few more examples of things that God uses to fulfill his purposes that if we lean unto our own limited understanding, we might think are bad , thus saying that what God does is bad ; 1 SAMUEL 16(14) : ” But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT FROM THE LORD troubled him .” and 1 KINGS 22(23) : ” Now therefore behold : THE LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT in the mouth of all these thy prophets .” So remember PROVERBS 3(5) : ” Trust in the Lord with all thine heart , and lean not unto thine own understanding .” STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT : YOU ARE ON VERY DANGEROUS GROUND ! PROVERBS 3(7) : ” BE NOT WISE IN THINE OWN EYES , FEAR THE LORD, DEPART FROM EVIL . ” : IT IS A GREAT EVIL TO BE WISE IN THINE OWN EYES AND JUDGE GOD !

You say that God created evil and does all things and then you say it is a great evil to be wise in thine own eyes. But according to your doctrine here, God makes men do evil so how can you say they are wrong if in your doctrine God is responsible? Wouldn’T you be rebuking God by saying that?

Your doctrine here is unfolding in on itself and is not right or understood rightly.

God does not do any iniquity as scripture teaches.

 

[John tower]

You say that God created evil and does all things and then you say it is a great evil to be wise in thine own eyes. But according to your doctrine here, God makes men do evil so how can you say they are wrong if in your doctrine God is responsible? Wouldn’T you be rebuking God by saying that?

Your doctrine here is unfolding in on itself and is not right or understood rightly.

God does not do any iniquity as scripture teaches.

I didn’t say that God created evil : Isaiah said it : Isaiah 45(7) and Solomon said it : Proverbs 16(4) And GOd sends forth lying spirits : 1 Kings 22(23) : GOd created ALL THINGS : are you going to attack God and say he did not create all things because you think you see something wrong : Prov 3(7) !

 

[LoveofTruth]

I didn’t say that God created evil : Isaiah said it : Isaiah 45(7) and Solomon said it : Proverbs 16(4) And GOd sends forth lying spirits : 1 Kings 22(23) : GOd created ALL THINGS : are you going to attack God and say he did not create all things because you think you see something wrong : Prov 3(7) !

And again, you simply avoided all the comments given yo you and seek to avoid answering them.
You need to answer the specific questions I asked and you have said God created evil many times as you understand certain scriptures.

again the questions still stand

Is Christ the minister of sin?

Yes or no?

and as I asked,

Here’s a serious question.

"Jesus said that the greatest blasphemy is the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. If a man blasphemes the Holy Ghost would you say for even a second that it was Jesus making him do it?? God forbid even the implication of such a thing!!!!"



and you did say this

"The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL...STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT"

these are your own words not quotes from scripture. And you have many of your own words and interpretations in your text, many.

Your title says "the greatest blasphemy". But Jesus defined what the greatest blasphemy was and it is not what you said.

 

[Hillsage]

Evil is no more of a 'created entity' than good is. And God created the tree of good and evil. God is omniscient and He 'fully understands', what most simply 'think they understand'.

Unless you meet resistance and overcome, you will never get stronger. And that relates to 'resisting dumbbells' for stronger muscles or 'resisting the devil' for a stronger faith. If there were no evil then good would have nothing to triumph over. And if Adam was perfect he would have never failed the very first temptation.

 

[John tower]

And again, you simply avoided all the comments given yo you and seek to avoid answering them.
You need to answer the specific questions I asked and you have said God created evil many times as you understand certain scriptures.

again the questions still stand

Is Christ the minister of sin?

Yes or no?

and as I asked,

Here’s a serious question.

"Jesus said that the greatest blasphemy is the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. If a man blasphemes the Holy Ghost would you say for even a second that it was Jesus making him do it?? God forbid even the implication of such a thing!!!!"



and you did say this

"The truth of course is that GOD CREATED ALL THINGS , INCLUDING EVIL...STOP BLASPHEMING EVERY TIME YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND , AND SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT DO IT OR CREATE IT"

these are your own words not quotes from scripture. And you have many of your own words and interpretations in your text, many.

Your title says "the greatest blasphemy". But Jesus defined what the greatest blasphemy was and it is not what you said.

Col 1(17): He is before all things and by him all things consist ! And : Eph 1(11): He works all things after the counsel of his own will! : ALL THINGS : If you say God did not create all things because you think you see something : you are attacking God himself : Will pray for you Prov 3(5&7), Isa 55(8&9)

 

[John tower]

Col 1(17): He is before all things and by him all things consist ! And : Eph 1(11): He works all things after the counsel of his own will! : ALL THINGS : If you say God did not create all things because you think you see something : you are attacking God himself : Will pray for you Prov 3(5&7), Isa 55(8&9)

I don’t answer to comments or interpretations of men , Mt15(9) , I only answer to scripture .