Where is this scripture? And I don't mean from NT.

[Hidden In Him]

Proverbs 18:4. "The words of a man's mouth are like deep waters; the fountain of wisdom like a flowing brook." Deep waters is a reference to underground springs, or "streams."

Btw, I probably should have clarified that the phrase "the words of a man's mouth" is a reference to the manifestation of the gifts of the Spirt (especially prophecy, tongues, interpretation and revelation. See 1 Corinthians 14:26-32) as a result of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. This is Proverbs 18:4's relation to verse 39. The Spirit of God Himself is the true "fountain of wisdom" all believers were intended to drink from (especially the end-time church. See Joel 2:28), since the words of man amount to nothing.

 

[AbbaLove]

John 7:37-39 If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scriptures said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’

Gill, Spurgeon and others lean toward cessationism as do some Christians and also as do some within the Messianic Judaism movement. Thus the reason why Gill may not credit 'his innermost being' as being the indwelling empowerment of the Holy Spirit (e.g. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11) in a faithful Follower of Israel's Messiah. However, according to cessationism such theology didn't take place until the passing of the Apostles years after Yeshua's own words (John 7:38). So, Gill's logic doesn't hold water with respect to Yeshua's own words in John 7:37-39; especially for those that hold to the theology of supernatural Spiritual continualism being just as active today as at the time of the Apostles.

I have a reference in a Messianic Bible to John 7:38, dd. 1906. The reference is Zechariah 14:8. ... Gill is confident that it applies to scripture and not the Holy Spirit.

Agree that John 7:38 is most likely a reference to Zechariah 14:8. However, that is not to say that [Spirituaj] living waters can't flow(metaphor/allegory) from a born again Believer having the indwelling presence of His Spirit (John 7:39). Thus, the use of both His as well as his is certainly plausible. Certainly understandable to the early Messianic Followers of Israel's Messiah being the physical manifestation of Incarnate God. You may prefer that translators capitalized His instead of his when reading the following translation ... ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’ The NKJV uses capitalization as follows telling the reader who is Yeshua and who is a Follower of Yeshua ...​

John 7:37-39 (NKJV)
37 On the last day, that great
day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.​

John 7:37 (CJB)
Now on the last day of the festival, Hoshana Rabbah, Yeshua stood and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, let him keep coming to me and drinking! (me should be capitalized)​

Gill's (and your) preference may be for the translators of Vis' red quote to have capitalized His in John 7:38 implying Yeshua's (His) 'innermost being' instead of a Faithful Follower's (his) 'innermost being'. And yet both are just as applicable today as they were during the time of the first Apostles.

 

[Heber Book List]

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Gill, Spurgeon and others lean toward cessationism as do some Christians and also as do some within the Messianic Judaism movement. Thus the reason why Gill may not credit 'his innermost being' as being the indwelling empowerment of the Holy Spirit (e.g. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11) in a faithful Follower of Israel's Messiah. However, accordingly cessationism theology didn't take place until the passing of the Apostles years after Yeshua's own words (John 7:38). So, Gill's logic doesn't hold water with respect to Yeshua's own words in John 7:37-39; especially for those that hold to the theology of supernatural Spiritual continualism being just as active today as at the time of the Apostles.

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Agree that John 7:38 is most likely a reference to Zechariah 14:8. However, that is not to say that [Spirituaj] living waters can't flow(metaphor/allegory) from a born again Believer having the indwelling presence of His Spirit (John 7:39). Thus, the use of both His as well as his is certainly plausible. Certainly understandable to the early Messianic Followers of Israel's Messiah being the physical manifestation of Incarnate God. You may prefer that translators capitalized His instead of his when reading the following translation ... ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’ The NKJV uses capitalization as follows telling the reader who is Yeshua and who is a Follower of Yeshua ...

John 7:37-39 (NKJV)
37 On the last day, that great
day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
John 7:37 (CJB)
Now on the last day of the festival, Hoshana Rabbah, Yeshua stood and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, let him keep coming to me and drinking! (me should be capitalized)​

Gill's (and your) preference may be for the translators of Vis' red quote to have capitalized His in John 7:38 implying Yeshua's (His) 'innermost being' instead of a Faithful Follower's (his) 'innermost being'. And yet both are applicable today as they were during the time of the first Apostles.

I don't use a distinction between his and His, and neither do many Bibles, unless they are based on the centuries old KJV so, as I said, I do not understand your persistent posting about these two words, especially as vs 39 is very questionable as to its presence or its meaning. You are flogging a dead horse, methinks.

This issue is better dealt with in the same debate on this very issue in another thread. I am not interested in taking this thread down an alternative path and so hijacking this thread.

 

[AbbaLove]

I do not understand your persistent posting about these two words, especially as vs 39 is very questionable as to its presence or its meaning.

Verses 37-39 are very clear that rivers(plural) of flowing water (verse 38) will proceed from Faithful Followers of Israel's Messiah, just as they flowed with the first Apostles and continue to flow today from Messiah Yeshua(He Lives!) being the physical manifestation of Incarnate God.

My persistent posting is because it's possible you're mistaken if you believe John 7:37-39 only applies to Israel's Messiah and NOT to His Faithful Apostles who were baptized with the indwelling presence of Father God's Holy Spirit. The following two verses couldn't be any clearer ...

38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

John 14:12-13
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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Cessationists generally believe these verses only applied to Yeshua's first Apostles and were not relevant to subsequent Believers of Israel's Messiah over the centuries up to today. However, today's born again Believers (Christians and Messianics) having the indwelling presence of His Father's Spirit are encouraged by the Words of Yeshua; being just as relevant today as during Yeshua's teaching ministry to his Apostles (including Paul of Tarsus).

 

[Heber Book List]

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Verses 37-39 are very clear that rivers(plural) of flowing water (verse 38) will proceed from Faithful Followers of Israel's Messiah, just as they flowed with the first Apostles and continue to flow today from Messiah Yeshua(He Lives!) being the physical manifestation of Incarnate God.

My persistent posting is because you are wrong if you believe John 7:37-39 only applies to Israel's Messiah and NOT to His Faithful Apostles who were baptized with the indwelling presence of Father God's Holy Spirit. The following two verses couldn't be any clearer ...

38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

John 14:12-13
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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Cessationists generally believe these verses only applied to Yeshua's first Apostles and were not relevant to subsequent Believers of Israel's Messiah over the centuries up to today. However, today's born again Believers (Christians and Messianics) having the indwelling presence of His Father's Spirit are encouraged by the Words of Yeshua; being just as relevant today as during Yeshua's teaching ministry to his Apostles (including Paul of Tarsus).

I'll watch my stomach!!

 

[Lulav]

John 7:37-39 If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scriptures said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’

In reading that in context I have to say that it doesn't sound like something Yeshua would say. By that I mean that when he was referring to the tenakh he would say

'As it is written'.

Whoever this writer is or whoever wrote this part was making an interpretation, see in red

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)​

Could not the first part be an interpretation as well?

 

[Heber Book List]

In reading that in context I have to say that it doesn't sound like something Yeshua would say. By that I mean that when he was referring to the tenakh he would say

'As it is written'.

Whoever this writer is or whoever wrote this part was making an interpretation, see in red

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)​

Could not the first part be an interpretation as well?

Taking verses up to 38, it is in context with the fact that he was teaching in the Temple and so 'living water being a metaphor for the Law' would fit. It also fits in with the fact that out of Zion will go forth the Law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:3) etc.

 

[AbbaLove]

I'll watch my stomach!!

Just maybe, Ezekiel 47:1-6 and Zechariah 14:6-9 (in Light of John 7:38-39) should be interpreted as also referring to the born again Messianic Jewish Believers (144,000 Jews) that catch His Wave and will be so empowered by His Spirit that rivers of His Living Water will also flow metaphorically from their Messianic hearts (spirits) unto Gentile Nations.

Zechariah 8:23 (JPS Tanakh)
Thus saith the LORD of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying: We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'
Romans 11:24 (ESV)
For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

It also fits in with the fact that out of Zion will go forth the Law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:3) etc.

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[chunkofcoal]

Maybe He was talking about this?

Son 4:12-16 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. (13) Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, (14) Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices: (15) A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.
(16) Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

 

[AbbaLove]

In reading that in context I have to say that it doesn't sound like something Yeshua would say. By that I mean that when he was referring to the tenakh he would say

'As it is written'.

Even if that wording (As it is written) causes one to doubt ... should it disqualify the rest of John 7:38-39. If as a MJ you doubt the accuracy of John 7:38-39 it must be unsettling to possibly doubt other translations of Yeshua's Words in the first 5 books of the NC Gospel. Don't all translations of John 7:38-39 basically agree?

Part of the problem may be a tendency for some Messianic Jews within the MJ movement to find fault with NC scripture that may seem to contradict the Tanakh(tenakh). Some MJs may even go so far as to say that Paul's letters include his own commentary and therefore not totally inspired by the Holy Spirit. Thereby calling into question Paul's letters as whether or not they are absolutely trustworthy.

 

[Heber Book List]

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Even if that wording (As it is written) causes one to doubt ... should it disqualify the rest of John 7:38-39. If as a MJ you doubt the accuracy of John 7:38-39 it must be unsettling to possibly doubt other translations of Yeshua's Words in the first 5 books of the NC Gospel. Don't all translations of John 7:38-39 basically agree?

Part of the problem may be a tendency for some Messianic Jews within the MJ movement to find fault with NC scripture that may seem to contradict the Tanakh(tenakh). Some MJs may even go so far as to say that Paul's letters include his own commentary and therefore not totally inspired by the Holy Spirit. Thereby calling into question Paul's letters as whether or not they are absolutely trustworthy.

I have no problem up to verse 38. It is vs 39 in brackets that should flag up to 90% of people - MJ or Christian - that text in brackets should be treated with caution, which is what I have been saying; it is unreliable and should therefore be discounted when making serious study of the Word.

Yes, Paul's writings do include words that he himself tells us are NOT from G_d, but from him:

Let's take a look at these three verses.

• 1 Cor. 7:12, "But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, let him not send her away."
• 1 Cor. 7:25, "Now concerning virgins I have no command of the Lord, but I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy."
• 2 Cor. 11:17, "That which I am speaking, I am not speaking as the Lord would, but as in foolishness, in this confidence of boasting."

Some of the letters that were traditionally seen as Paul's are now being questioned by some academics - I am not convinced they are right. Many Christians even think Paul wrote the letter to the Jews (Hebrews). He didn't..

 

[Lulav]

Even if that wording (As it is written) causes one to doubt ... should it disqualify the rest of John 7:38-39. If as a MJ you doubt the accuracy of John 7:38-39 it must be unsettling to possibly doubt other translations of Yeshua's Words in the first 5 books of the NC Gospel. Don't all translations of John 7:38-39 basically agree?

No it was not those words, that is what I was saying, it just sounded odd, that's all.

And as far as Yeshua's words I follow what's written in Torah, that is what anyone who was to come was to be held up against. In the first century there was only the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings; so when we read in Acts about those of Berea studying the scriptures to compare if what was being told them was true, that is what we see them doing. I just don't see Yeshua telling the people something they should be aware of because it was in the tenakh if it wasn't.

Part of the problem may be a tendency for some Messianic Jews within the MJ movement to find fault with NC scripture that may seem to contradict the Tanakh(tenakh). Some MJs may even go so far as to say that Paul's letters include his own commentary and therefore not totally inspired by the Holy Spirit. Thereby calling into question Paul's letters as whether or not they are absolutely trustworthy.

Paul claims to give commandments from G-d, he also claimed to give 'directives' if you will that he says do not come from the LORD but himself.

"For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: 'If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat'”"

Not exactly merciful to the widows and elderly and lame is it?

While I believe Paul's writings belong in the canon I bear in mind Deuteronomy 13:3.

 

[AbbaLove]

No it was not those words, that is what I was saying, it just sounded odd, that's all.

And as far as Yeshua's words I follow what's written in Torah, that is what anyone who was to come was to be held up against. In the first century there was only the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings;

Getting back to Vis' initial post she is apparently interpreting John 7:38-39 as referring to 1st Century born again Messianic Jewish Believers in Yeshua as Israel's Messiah. So her question still remains unanswered as to which scripture in the Tanakh/tenakh best satisfies John 38-39 as referring to born again Messianic Jewish Believers and not Yeshua Himself ... assuming John's authorship of verses 38-39 is in fact a correct translation as inspired by the Holy Spirit.

John 7:38-39 (Jubilee Bible 2000)
38 He that believes in me, as the scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this he spoke concerning the Spirit, which those that believe on him should receive, for the Holy Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified.)​

What do you believe is the significance of the brackets ( ) around verse 39? Are you and the JUB possibly implying that John's recollection of Yeshua's words (verse 39) is based more on John's own commentary (and possibly misleading) to the best of his own memory and not necessarily inspired by the Holy Spirit?

 

[visionary]

In reading that in context I have to say that it doesn't sound like something Yeshua would say. By that I mean that when he was referring to the tenakh he would say

'As it is written'.

Whoever this writer is or whoever wrote this part was making an interpretation, see in red

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)​

Could not the first part be an interpretation as well?

Translators were known to add interpretations... I wonder if you are on to something. Anyone? can we have an original text from both ..

 

[Heber Book List]

Translators were known to add interpretations... I wonder if you are on to something. Anyone? can we have an original text from both ..

I'm not sure what you mean by 'both', only vs 39 is being debated. What is written before it is accepted by everyone without argument.

It is not a question of interpretation of language, as such. It is a basic question of whether this is just a comment added later and therefore not a part of The Word? Where, in the Bible, text is seen as unreliable, it is often put in brackets to warn people that the text is unreliable because it is not in older MSS or is missing in some, but not all, MSS or we know that it is a later addition.

The context is that Yeshua was teaching the Law in Ch. 7. Why would he jump to, or allude to, something way ahead which would not have made any sense to his disciples, let alone other hearers of his teaching? Remember vs 39 is not Yeshua speaking.

"Why G_d allowed words other than his to be in Scripture" might be an interesting line of thought! Adding text to G_d's word was already happening by the time John's gospel was written. Claims of 'writing back' text into both the Tanach and Christian Testament is not that rare. Paul tells us of his additional words, others do not, but he does tell us that Luke's writings in Acts is in error, in fact he swears that it is wrong, but it was not removed from G_d's word! Much of the synoptic gospels are shared stories with slight variations as different people remembered what happened a few decades earlier, and some chunks of those writings we know are not really accepted, with various caveats in footnotes, not to mention the various problems in texts as we face Easter on the horizon. Scripture is not so clear cut as we like to believe - if it was, these fora would not be needed.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Maybe He was talking about this?

Son 4:12-16 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed. (13) Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard, (14) Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices: (15) A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.
(16) Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

This isn't bad, actually. To its credit, it actually contains the expression "living waters" in both the Hebrew and the Greek. Granted, "well" is in the singular while the word is plural and unquestionably means "rivers/ streams" in the original of John 7:38 (ποταμοι), but the next phrase would cover for it by adding the word "streams" (or "flowings," in plural) in the expression that immediately follows.

Well done. Unless someone finds better, I vote this one the winner.

 

[Heber Book List]

This isn't bad, actually. To it's credit, it actually contains the expression "living waters" in both the Hebrew and Greek. Granted, "well" is in singular while the word is plural and clearly means "rivers/ streams" in the original of John 7:38 (ποταμοι), but the next phrase would cover for it by adding the word "streams" (or "flowings") in the plural in the expression that immediately follows.

Well done. Unless someone finds better, I vote this one the winner.

There are a number of texts that refer to 'living water' - it is unlikely that we shall find the text specifically asked about in the OP.

 

[Hidden In Him]

There are a number of texts that refer to 'living water' - it is unlikely that we shall find the text specifically asked about in the OP.

I'm just saying it has a very strong case. I looked, and the Septuagint for "streams of Lebanon" is ῥοιζοῦντος ἀπὸ τοῦ Λιβάνου, literally "rushings out of Lebanon" (Brenton's rendering of "gurglings" is dubious, IMO).

I'm comfortable with the notion that the actual text may be lost, but after a close examination, I think Song of Solomon 4:15 fits.

 

[AbbaLove]

Translators were known to add interpretations... can we have an original text from both ..

If you read twenty Bible translations of verses 38 and 39 i don't see any significant disagreement. However, (and i do mean HOWEVER), it's as much (or more) up to the interpretation of the reader based on their understanding of the relationship between the Tanakh (e.g. Ezekiel 47:1-12) and the Ketuvei HaShalichim (John 7:37-39). Thus, some Messianics see Yeshua's words in verse 38 (during Shavuot~verse 37) as dovetailing with the Tanakh (e.g. Ezekiel 47:1-12: & Zechariah 14:8); while still questioning the translator's wording in both 38 and 39 as if the translator has a corrupted source or every translator is sorely mistaken.

It should be remembered in verse 39 that John's words are a reflection back several years later after the Disciples and other Jewish Believers had received the infilling baptism of His Spirit on Shavuot as recorded in Acts chapter 2 of the Ketuvei HaShalichim. Thus, it's not an impossibility that the Apostles and other 1st Century Jewish Followers would consider themselves Christians in the best sense of the word. However, some Messianic Jews perceive verse 39 of John's commentary as not referenced/implied in the Tanakh and therefore suspect. Thus the bracketed parentheses enclosing Lulav's red quote of verse 39.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'both', only vs 39 is being debated. What is written before it is accepted by everyone without argument.

In reading that in context I have to say that it doesn't sound like something Yeshua would say. By that I mean that when he was referring to the tenakh he would say ...'As it is written'.

Whoever this writer is or whoever wrote this part was making an interpretation, see in red

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Perhaps, Young's Literal Translation is a better reading of Yeshua's words as verse 38 reads "as the Writing said" referring to the Tanakh. However, where in the Tanakh is scripture that implies that "he who is believing in me" will experience "Rivers out of his belly shall flow of living water". Thus both verses are apparently perplexing to those within the Messianic Judaism movement that question the translation trustworthiness of the Ketuvei HaShalichim.

38 he who is believing in me, according as the Writing said, 'Rivers out of his belly shall flow of living water;'
39 and this he said of the Spirit, which those believing in him were about to receive; for not yet was the Holy Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
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Perhaps, Heber and Lulav interpret "Rivers out of his belly" to only apply to the Throne Room of Israel's Messiah when He reigns as LORD of lords and KING of kings on earth and NOT to born again [Spirit-filled] Believers [who adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Me]. Such an interpretation of verse 38 then presents a problem as verse 39 implies that "Rivers out of his belly" refers to born again [Spirit-filled] Believers.

When reading several different translations including the YLT of verse 38 none of them (NKJV, CJB, JUL, etc, etc) capitalize 'His' in "Rivers out of his belly" implying 'his' refers to born again Spirit-filled Believers. Verse 39 of the NIV reads, "rivers of living water will flow from within them", and verse 39 of the TLB reads, "rivers of living water shall flow from the inmost being of anyone who believes in me". The TPT takes even a more passionate stance ...

John 7:38-39 The Passion Translation (TPT)
38 Believe in me so that rivers of living water will burst out from within you, flowing from your innermost being, just like the Scripture says!”
39 Jesus was prophesying about the Holy Spirit that believers were being prepared to receive. But the Holy Spirit had not yet been poured out upon them, because Jesus had not yet been unveiled in his full splendor.​

Footnotes:

1. John 7:38 The root word used here is the same as the River Jordan, which means “flowing” (down).
2. John 7:38 Or “rivers of living water will flow from his throne within.” See Isa. 44:3; 55:1; 58:11; Ezek. 47:1; Rev. 22:1. A drink becomes a river!
3. John 7:39 As translated from the Aramaic.
4. John 7:39 This splendor included the splendor of the cross, the splendor of his resurrection, and the glory of his ascension into heaven. Just as water poured out of the rock that was struck by Moses, so from the wounded side of Jesus living water poured out to heal, save, and bring life to everyone who believes. The Holy Spirit poured out of Christ and into the church at Pentecost.

 

[Heber Book List]

Quote of the month: 'The Lord opens our eyes to temptation from the enemy through His word, by His Spirit or in some other way - like Jesus did, resist it with the truth and run in the way of righteousness. Even though the right path is not always the easy one, in the end, you will look back and see those trials and temptations as victory over the enemy'.

I'll stick to what has been revealed to me by G_d, about v39, through study of the scriptures over 40 years, in context, supported by prophecy and validated by many scholars of The Word. If others want to take the word of man over the word of G_d, it is up to you - you have been shown the truth but there is more wriggling in people trying to change it than you might see in a bath full of eels.