It’s Time to Bomb North Korea

[Followers4christ]

The OP says:
"It’s Time to Bomb North Korea"

which is a third graders response & I do not talk to third graders on a subject where calling for mass murder is an option
bye

If you happened to read the link posted the news article was named " It's Time To Bomb North Korea". I didn't come up with the name of the article. Next time please respond to the article and save the silly insults. Thank you

If we take out NK nuclear capabilities we actually are saving lives from a country that has threatened to use nuclear weapons on us and other nations. They don't have a honest nuclear weapon that can hit us yet why wait till they can? Kim and defectors claim that Kim is fully capable at starting a nuclear war.

 

[Followers4christ]

I know some people disagree but I feel the only response is to drop a bunker buster on NK's nuclear sites. We have tried peace talks, giving money, giving aid, sanctions, military pressure, international community condemned the acts of North Korea with no results. Both Kim and even defectors have said Kim is capable of starting a nuclear war. North Korea has made many threats to us and other nations of nuclear war. Should we wait till they can hit us? Or take out North Korea's nuclear capabilities before they can use them. Right now North Korea has no honest way of hitting us as they are working on the re-entry technology that is needed to be a threat to us as the last missile test failed re-entry. They are getting ready to launch another missile test soon. We have a window to stop them from being able to use a nuclear weapon. This is not about "war-mongering" this is about protecting people from a possible nuclear war.

If we do take out NK nuclear weapons it would take them years to rebuild and it's very doubtful that they would with its people and soldiers starving already, not to mention the sanctions hurting it's economy. With the US, South Korea, Japan and Australia we can be effective at protecting not just ourselves but our allies (and the world) from a possible nuclear strike.

 

[kiwimac]

I would also ask you to delete it because it is propaganda for which I do not support.

You don't get to mod here.

 

[vincejohnson]

I know some people disagree but I feel the only response is to drop a bunker buster on NK's nuclear sites. We have tried peace talks, giving money, giving aid, sanctions, military pressure, international community condemned the acts of North Korea with no results.

The above is a string of lies, one after the other. We are becoming more and more aware of what a pathological liar is, thanks to trump. In trumps case he will be banished from political life. He can then live out the rest of his life at his strip joints where he can lie night and day to the girls sitting on his lap, as if anyone cared.

Forum posters are as free to lie as well. For the wise can see through the smoke and mirrors reveling lost souls. One can only pray for their salvation.

If North Korea does not have the right to have nuclear bombs for defense then neither do us or anyone else.

BTW I have noticed you repeating this same dribble (posts) several times over. I believe this is called trolling.

 

[dude99]

North Korea does not just have nuclear weapons, but chemical and biological weapons. In addition even if the US is able to eradicate the nuclear threat, they be incapable of stopping all the conventional weapons, and Seoul and surrounds will be heavily damaged. Plus so much of their weapons are well protected from decades of preparation, with tunnels and secret caves.

In addition North Korea does not have a shortage of people that are willing to die for the North Korean leader.

 

[Favourofone]

Bomb them ? Haven’t you heard everything is ok again

South Korea’s Leader Credits Trump for North Korea Talks

Cunningly enough South Korea even gave Trump credit for it which will delay next flame tweet for a while.

Of course it doesn’t last and Trump will look like even more impotent when the talks invariably break down again.

Maybe they will get the olympics out of the way and have time to feed their failed athletes to wolves - NK being the only place that can literally happen - before next nuclear or missile test.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

War with North Korea can be averted.
War with North Korea must be averted.

 

[Followers4christ]

The above is a string of lies, one after the other. We are becoming more and more aware of what a pathological liar is, thanks to trump. In trumps case he will be banished from political life. He can then live out the rest of his life at his strip joints where he can lie night and day to the girls sitting on his lap, as if anyone cared.

Forum posters are as free to lie as well. For the wise can see through the smoke and mirrors reveling lost souls. One can only pray for their salvation.

If North Korea does not have the right to have nuclear bombs for defense then neither do us or anyone else.

BTW I have noticed you repeating this same dribble (posts) several times over. I believe this is called trolling.

If you bothered reading my post I give sources that have proven what I have posted. But the only lies seem to be in your post as it is full of them. Having a nuclear weapon for defense is different from threatening nuclear war with anyone you disagree with (I would hope you would see the difference).

About me giving out the same facts in multiple times. That's easy if people continue to ask the same questions they get the same answers as facts never change regardless how many times you ask the questions.

North korea is run by someone who has threatened nuclear war with us, our allies and anyone else that disagrees with them. Someone like that you do not let get ahold of nuclear weapons. Just common sense sorry you can't grasp that.

Missile fails re-entry:

North Korea's new ICBM likely broke up upon re-entry, US official says - CNN

North Korea has yet to master critical missile re-entry technology, Seoul says | The Japan Times

Missile test soon.

North Korea is getting ready for a first missile launch of 2018, reports say

Threatening the US:

North Korea calls latest UN sanctions 'an act of war' - CNNPolitics

North Korea’s top diplomat says strike against U.S. mainland is ‘inevitable’

North Korea warns of 'bigger gift package' for U.S. after latest test

North Korea: Pyongyang vows 'suffering' ahead of sanctions vote - CNN

North Korea warns US will pay for 'political prostitute' Nikki Haley's 'hysteric fit'

North Korea says US-South Korea military drills drive them to 'brink of a nuclear war'

Threatening other countries:

North Korea: UK faces 'miserable end' if it joins US-led military drills

North Korea warns Australia that supporting Trump is a 'suicidal act'

North Korea threatens to make Japan and U.S. bases 'disappear' | The Japan Times

North Korea threatens Israel with 'merciless, thousand-fold punishment'

North Korea keeps threatening South Korea. Seoul may send humanitarian aid anyway.

For 1st time, North Korea directly threatens vital ally China

North Korea fires over Japan and in it's waters:

North Korea launches missile over Japan - CNNPolitics

North Korea fires ICBM into Japanese waters

How Japan Is Preparing for a North Korean Nuclear Attack

NK is a threat to the security of us and our allies:

South Korea and Japan's leaders agree to 'no longer tolerate North Korea's threats to security'

McMaster: Potential for war with North Korea 'increasing every day' - CNNPolitics

North Korea is starving it's people just to have a nuclear weapon to be able to hit us.

North Koreans are facing famine as Kim Jong Un builds nuclear missiles to attack the U.S.

North Korea's female soldiers often raped, stop menstruating, defector says

Hungry North Korean soldiers are being given leave to find food, report says

North Korea human rights abuses resemble those of the Nazis, says UN inquiry

North Korea says sanctions cause "colossal" damage but won't work

 

[Followers4christ]

Bomb them ? Haven’t you heard everything is ok again

South Korea’s Leader Credits Trump for North Korea Talks

Cunningly enough South Korea even gave Trump credit for it which will delay next flame tweet for a while.

Of course it doesn’t last and Trump will look like even more impotent when the talks invariably break down again.

Maybe they will get the olympics out of the way and have time to feed their failed athletes to wolves - NK being the only place that can literally happen - before next nuclear or missile test.

Do you really think that will last or that has stopped them from nuclear advancement? NK is getting ready for another missile test in the near future.

 

[Followers4christ]

North Korea does not just have nuclear weapons, but chemical and biological weapons. In addition even if the US is able to eradicate the nuclear threat, they be incapable of stopping all the conventional weapons, and Seoul and surrounds will be heavily damaged. Plus so much of their weapons are well protected from decades of preparation, with tunnels and secret caves.

In addition North Korea does not have a shortage of people that are willing to die for the North Korean leader.

I think we can both agree that a conventional war is better then a nuclear war. Besides they may have the man power but with South Korea, Japan, and Australia with us we can win if things turned ugly. But I doubt NK's soldiers would fight much as the soldiers in NK are starving and being raped (probably why a couple of soldiers risked their lives to cross in to South Korea).

 

[Followers4christ]

War with North Korea can be averted.
War with North Korea must be averted.

In your opinion how "can" a war with North Korea be averted? They have already repeatedly said they will strike us with a nuclear weapon and are still working on one that can hit us. Peace talks and sanctions have not worked. So what is your opinion as to how to have a peaceful solution?

 

[RDKirk]

They have nuclear weapons right now and the capacity to deliver them. Can we be sure that we can take out all of them?

I've spent years of my life--years--actually looking at North Korea. Searching for their weapons, studying their military facilities season to season, year in and year out. I've measured and calculated the amount of "spoil" they dig out of their many, many, many underground facilities to determine how deep the tunnel might go.

Back during the Persian Gulf war, I was part of the "great SCUD hunt" as we scoured Iraq looking for their mobile SCUD launchers to send aircraft to destroy them. Do you know how many we destroyed that way?

None. Zero. Nada. Not a single one.

The only SCUD TEL that was found and destroyed was one that a Special Forces team stumbled upon.

And that was in a desert.

Neither I nor any of my colleagues who have done such study have any confidence that the US could destroy the ability of the DPRK to launch a nuclear missile with a pre-preemptive strike.

We certainly have the military capability to utterly destroy the nation...but that's what it would take.

As I've said before: Threats ultimately do not work. When you frighten a smaller man, he will never stop seeking a way to kill you.

 

[RDKirk]

Some thoughts:

1. Is Kim rational? if he is irrational then that makes a preemptive bombing more justifiable. If he is rational on the other hand he wouldn't commit to any suicidal retaliation anyway. Not a good argument against bombing North Korea.

If he's irrational, it makes a preemptive strike even less justified, unless that strike is guaranteed to wipe out his entire capability to wage war by any means.

2. Can North Korea trust the United States? NO! Lets be honest here, the vast majority of us would love it if his regime crumbled, and they know it to. If North Korea could be overthrown bloodlessly, we would probably find some excuse to do it sooner or later. Why should they consider the country that tore up Indian treaties, backstabbed Saddam, and expanded NATO into eastern Europe after previously promising not to be considered somebody you can bargain with. There is no incentive to deescalate here.

The US "called out" the DPRK along with Iraq and Iran as an "Axis of Evil." That translates into Korean as "you must be destroyed." And then the US promptly invaded Iraq on bogus charges.

The US has never ceased threats against Iran and North Korea, and is credibly preparing for war with both, even though neither has had the ability to attack the US. In fact, it was the US that had the last military strike directly against Iran, having shot down an Iranian civilian passenger jumbo jet.

If you frighten a smaller man, he will never stop seeking a way to kill you.

 

[DW1980]

I'm always concerned when Christians call for war. Hebrews 12:14 says, "Work at living in peace with everyone". Jesus said "all who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52)

So my question in response would be this: who would Jesus kill?

 

[RDKirk]

In your opinion how "can" a war with North Korea be averted? They have already repeatedly said they will strike us with a nuclear weapon and are still working on one that can hit us. Peace talks and sanctions have not worked. So what is your opinion as to how to have a peaceful solution?

Actually, what they've said is that they will strike the US if we threaten them with destruction. And, frankly, from a judgment of pure intelligence analysis, the US is, indeed, doing everything we would expect to see a nation doing that was preparing for a first strike.

What Kim Jong Un really wants is to keep the US out of any dealings he has with South Korea.

 

[JCFantasy23]

Listen folks. There is no war to be had with North Korea. None. Their military is essentially under nourished and, if it came to war, could NEVER EVER feed itself. Their people in power KNOW this, which is why they haven't bothered with any naked "boots on the ground" intervention into South Korea in decades (and the one little thing sounds more like a joke from the 70s).

The Kims want power. That's all. They are NOT dumb. They know that as SOON as that bomb would be launched from them, they'd be at LEAST as good as ruling over rubble if not just straight up dead.

This idea that dropping a bomb on the Norks will lead to peace is utter foolishness: This is not '45 Japan in the middle of wartime.

I agree with you. If they posed a more credible threat, I may think differently - but I don't want to be the country that nukes another just on a precautionary hunch.

 

[RDKirk]

Negotiating peace? Really? With a maniac set on destroying what nation he decides? For the last 25+ years nothing has been done about NK. Guess what. That so called negotiation has gotten him where he is today; very close to a nuclear weapon.

The US has not stopped threatening the DPRK in 25 years.

 

[RDKirk]

Really? The people of NK are starving to death and the military are eating grass. Yet, you accuse the USA as being the bad guys. This is the height of ignorance.

Umm, yes. If your enemy is starving and their military is eating grass...and yet you threaten them with destruction...yep, that makes you the bad guy.

 

[RDKirk]

Roman soldiers were not only warriors but policeman too .
God likes justice but not overdoing it .

You would not want a Roman legionary as the cop on your beat.

They were not "policemen," they were Imperial enforcers.

 

[RDKirk]

This was still the Old Covenant. The New Covenant did not officially begin until Christ's death.
But even still, the words of John the Baptist would have led them to quit the military. What verse you conveniently left out was verse 15. It says, "Do violence to no man." This is what John the Baptist said. If they were to take those words seriously, they would have come to the conclusion that they would have to leave the military or they would have to not seek to kill or hurt anyone in war time (Kind of like a Desmond Doss, who was a pacifist within the military).

It is most likely John was speaking to Herodian guards, not Roman legionaries. But even for the Herodian guards, violence was ultimately their business, whether circumstances were truly likely to force it or not (like most policemen today never actually have to shoot someone in the line of duty in their careers).

For Roman legionaries in Judea, however, violence was their business. Extortion from the oppressed population was how they paid and fed their troops. There was no way for an active duty Roman soldier to obey John's instruction.