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Curious about how accurate that statement is, and if it is how much it really matters.

I criticize feminism all the time. Understandably it turns a lot of women off, but in my mind these women are not worth dating in the first place. Seems like my gripes weed out the bad women and give me a better spotlight on women worth pursuing.

And while I was semi-joking in my first post, it really does help being a sadist. While most feminists are probably masochistic themselves, those who are more self aware of it from my experience tend to be anti-feminists and can handle criticisms about how certain members of their gender behaves. Even though I have seen plenty of feminists have love/hate relationships with anti-feminist men. Lol.
 
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Curious about how accurate that statement is, and if it is how much it really matters.

I criticize feminism all the time. Understandably it turns a lot of women off, but in my mind these women are not worth dating in the first place. Seems like my gripes weed out the bad women and give me a better spotlight on women worth pursuing.

And while I was semi-joking in my first post, it really does help being a sadist. While most feminists are probably masochistic themselves, those who are more self aware of it from my experience tend to be anti-feminists and can handle criticisms about how certain members of their gender behaves. Even though I have seen plenty of feminists have love/hate relationships with anti-feminist men. Lol.

Why would a woman, any woman, be attracted to a negative degrading attitude toward women in general...even, or especially because it didn't apply to them?
 
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Why would a woman, any woman, be attracted to a negative degrading attitude toward women in general...even, or especially because it didn't apply to them?

Not sure if I'd call being anti-feminist as having a negative attitude of women in general. Even if my many gripes about feminism have to do with them often acting hyper feminine. The same is true for my disdain for white knights who want to continue traditional gender roles.

Of course there are women who do like men who have a general negative attitude towards women in general. My guess (and some of them outright claim) is that these women themselves while having female bodies have more masculine brains.

I do enjoy the anti-feminist women of the podcast Honeybadger radio, although I wish they'd even it out and go after men more. Seems like many of these women have a grudge with other females. Even if their anti-feminist commentary is often brilliant and digs deeper than any male anti-feminst I've seen.
 
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Not sure if I'd call being anti-feminist as having a negative attitude of women in general. Even if my many gripes about feminism have to do with them often acting hyper feminine. The same is true for my disdain for white knights who want to continue traditional gender roles.

Of course there are women who do like men who have a general negative attitude towards women in general. My guess (and some of them outright claim) is that these women themselves while having female bodies have more masculine brains.

I do enjoy the anti-feminist women of the podcast Honeybadger radio, although I wish they'd even it out and go after men more. Seems like many of these women have a grudge with other females. Even if their anti-feminist commentary is often brilliant and digs deeper than any male anti-feminst I've seen.

A lot of strong independent women do not relate to the label feminist because the popular meaning isn't truly a correct representation of the word.

As for "anti-feminist", I'd read that to mean that you do not believe that women are equal to men as people? .
 
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A lot of strong independent women do not relate to the label feminist because the popular meaning isn't truly a correct representation of the word.

As for "anti-feminist", I'd read that to mean that you do not believe that women are equal to men as people? .

No, just means I'm against modern feminism. A movement that wants to have a total monopoly on discussions of gender and equality, yet is also a movement that I pretty much sum up as a fraud.

Only reason I go after feminist more than groups like Men's Right Activists (who often exhibit many problems feminists exhibit except in the other direction) is because feminists actually have sympathy with the media and the general public. So critiquing them is more important.
 
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Why would a woman, any woman, be attracted to a negative degrading attitude toward women in general...even, or especially because it didn't apply to them?
women do a good enough job of degrading themselves- trashy clothes, oral you know what, all the porn and on and on. Women do that and they degrade their entire gender. Then they blame men for porn but, WHO is posing? It is women causing and doing it. They do not have a gun to their head, they are willingly doing and proud of it. They hate each other esp if they are not as pretty as another. I over hear it all the time and I am not trying to. Women's worst enemies are themselves. Take a look in the mirror. Most feel so priviledged and want to be treated like queens but, many come across as you know whats. These are valid observations that I have witnessed all too many times and for many years. They are always cutting themselves and other women down. first heard this from female family members. I would shake my head and not believe it but, I hear more proof most every day. No opinions, no cutting down on my end just communicating what I have been told by gals and what I have seen and heard myself.
I've not been the perfect guy and never will be but, I have always been respectful and decent as I was brought up.
 
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Only thing I can think of is that I should call out men for their bad behavior more than I do.

Although from trying this in the past a few problems arise. First white knights view this as a vulnerability and immediately take advantage of the situation trying to pressure me to comply to SJW standards. Also many masochistic minded female feminists start to gravitate towards me. The thirst they have to hear that they're a victim is pretty strong.

This might be hard to explain.. so here goes..

Might be hard to believe but I do have a heart and a social side. When I do start talking about female problems it's hard not to feel obligated to adopt more SJW stances. There is this constant pressure to conform to a more general feminist outlook. Even if I know how toxic that can be. Probably similar to feeling sucked into a conservative religious setting. I don't need all the guilt trips and harsh treatment I see other feminist men face whenever they occasionally (and for me my objections would be frequent) go against the female lead narrative of gender discussion.

Of course this mindset isn't a good thing. It is a shame that many anti-sjw people distance themselves from talking about things like misogyny and racism because of all the baggage that is usually heaped on for those who do. Anti-sjws should rise above it, but from my personal experience it's harder than many might imagine.
 
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No, just means I'm against modern feminism. A movement that wants to have a total monopoly on discussions of gender and equality, yet is also a movement that I pretty much sum up as a fraud.

Only reason I go after feminist more than groups like Men's Right Activists (who often exhibit many problems feminists exhibit except in the other direction) is because feminists actually have sympathy with the media and the general public. So critiquing them is more important.

My experience on this board is that you go after more than modern feminists.
 
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My experience on this board is that you go after more than modern feminists.

Who else do I go after? Lol..

"Modern feminists" is probably a rare time where I sugar coat things too much anyways.. lol.

Feel free to say what you want though. I'm always interested to hear other people's thoughts about me.
 
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women do a good enough job of degrading themselves- trashy clothes, oral you know what, all the porn and on and on. Women do that and they degrade their entire gender. Then they blame men for porn but, WHO is posing? It is women causing and doing it. They do not have a gun to their head, they are willingly doing and proud of it. They hate each other esp if they are not as pretty as another. I over hear it all the time and I am not trying to. Women's worst enemies are themselves. Take a look in the mirror. Most feel so priviledged and want to be treated like queens but, many come across as you know whats. These are valid observations that I have witnessed all too many times and for many years. They are always cutting themselves and other women down. first heard this from female family members. I would shake my head and not believe it but, I hear more proof most every day. No opinions, no cutting down on my end just communicating what I have been told by gals and what I have seen and heard myself.
I've not been the perfect guy and never will be but, I have always been respectful and decent as I was brought up.

A few women are posing.... ALL women are often being trashed on this forum. The few women don't represent the vast majority of us. Remember, your mother is a woman too. The attitude which dumps the sins of others on the whole population isn't very attractive.
 
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A few women are posing.... ALL women are often being trashed on this forum. The few women don't represent the vast majority of us. Remember, your mother is a woman too. The attitude which dumps the sins of others on the whole population isn't very attractive.

Although when this trashing ceases, the feminists come back in droves and start trashing the men.
 
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I have been on this forum for YEARS and well, can't remember when you stopped trashing women in general or when the women trashed all men.

What do you mean by trashing women in general? I don't view feminist as all women. There are certainly plenty of men to blame for that system as well. Although they generally don't have the final say in that movement.

As far as women trashing all men, it's happened a few times. Although from my experience the men immediately have a backlash and the women back off. Whenever the men start letting up, feminist double standards start persisting again. I've already noticed a white knight revival here.
 
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