Is there salvation after death?

[Phil 1:21]

No.

 

[Tom 1]

Yes, of course,
for all those saved before death who do not lose their salvation b4 they die.

If someone is not saved when they sleep/ die/ , then there is no hope at all, ever.

(unless they get 'resurrected' "b4" the resurrection (die and are raised from the dead somehow, as happens more often in china than anywhere else ever heard of) ==== perhaps then , but never established at all in YHWH'S WORD)...

I’m taking the bait - what’s the story with China?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I’m taking the bait - what’s the story with China?

Missionaries who have visited Africa and China have for centuries reported the routine raising people from the dead (often after several days in the morgue/ observed/ hospitals/ i.e. really dead) by devil worshipers as well as (less often) by followers of Jesus.

p.s. oh, btw, no 'bait'.
More like salt. (Truth, Alive, Reality, YHWH'S Revelation Active and Real and True in and for His people, Jews first, then for the gentiles too)

 

[dqhall]

Is there salvation after death?

Jesus was in Jerusalem for the Passover with his disciples as the Jewish law (Torah) required all able bodied Jewish males living in Israel must attend the Passover festival in Jerusalem. He was in the final week before his trial. He was teaching his disciples that he was going away, but that he would come back.

John 14 (WEB) “Don’t let your heart be troubled. Believe in God. Believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many homes. If it weren’t so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you. 3 If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and will receive you to myself; that where I am, you may be there also. 4 Where I go, you know, and you know the way.”

The apostles had seen miracles brought forth by God. They followed Jesus in order to try to gain a better chance for the resurrection of the righteous.

 

[Tom 1]

Missionaries who have visited Africa and China have for centuries reported the routine raising people from the dead (often after several days in the morgue/ observed/ hospitals/ i.e. really dead) by devil worshipers as well as (less often) by followers of Jesus.

p.s. oh, btw, no 'bait'.
More like salt. (Truth, Alive, Reality, YHWH'S Revelation Active and Real and True in and for His people, Jews first, then for the gentiles too)

Haha yeah the taking the bait bit was just a joke. Thanks for the info

 

[FutureAndAHope]

No, there is no salvation after death.

Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Christs death only applies for our life time of sins. While we live on the earth our sin can be atoned for, there is no other time. If we have not received Christ when we die, we can no longer be saved.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sinning a sin not unto death, he shall ask, and God will give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: not concerning this do I say that he should make request.

We can not pray for people, to have life, once they are dead.

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

Is there salvation after death?

no

Revelation 20:14-15King James Version (KJV)
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Revelation 21:7-8King James Version (KJV)
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Is there salvation after death?

No there is eternal punishment if somebody is not saved because you sinned against God who is outside of time .

If you need help to make sure you are saved just reply to me .

 

[BobRyan]

Is there salvation after death?

Isn't that what mormons claim??

 

[discipler7]

Is there salvation after death?

Since the 1st Advent of Jesus Christ to earth in 000BC, there is no salvation after death.(cf; 1PETER.3:19 & 4:6)
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HEBREWS.9:27-28 says, " 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation."

1THESS.4:16-18 says, " 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation."

yes,
while all those who are guilty, unforgiven of sin, seek to hide from Him, not at all eager to see Him, for their judgment is at hand.

 

[RaymondG]

Yes.

Except a seed falls to the ground and die, it cannot bring forth life.

Salvation comes only after death.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Hebrews 9:27 indicates the sequence of events upon dying.

As does Matthew 25, however Jesus did preach to the dead after he died.

 

[aiki]

Is there salvation after death?

Not for those who die without having received Christ as their Saviour and Lord.

 

[Tigger45]

As does Matthew 25, however Jesus did preach to the dead after he died.

That was a one time event on the spectrum of eternal history where those who were heaven bound but passed away before the resurrection. Jesus proclaimed liberty to the captives by conquering death by death. Luke 16:19-31

 

[ClementofA]

John 3:36

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

I don't see a time limit put on salvation there.

It says nothing to deny after death salvation to those who die in their sins.

"...it doesn't say what most evangelizers of hopelessness want it to say in that regard either."

Eternity in the Bible by Gerry Beauchemin – Hope Beyond Hell

 

[ClementofA]

Not unless the Universalists are correct about Hell being only temporary.

One doesn't have to be a universalist to believe babies get born again after being killed by abortion. Or that there is a purgatory (or the like) where the unsaved may have a first or second chance for salvation.

 

[Cat Loaf You]

Purgatory is heresy

 

[The Times]

Is there salvation after death?

First we ought to define salvation according to the Biblical definition of the term salvation.....

“The deliverance, by the grace of God, from eternal punishment for sin which is granted to those who accept by faith God’s conditions of repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus.”

Salvation is tied directly to the saviour, Jesus Christ.

What did Jesus say.....

Be faithful even unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. (Revelation 2:10)

Faith must therefore be demonstratable before death.

Faith in whom?

Jesus Christ.

So we must be faithful and loyal to Jesus, even onto death, in order to qualify for the crown of eternal life.

Are there cases that Jesus presented of once servants, that is Christians, not being able to qualify for the crown of eternal life?

Well, let us look to what Jesus said.....

Matthew 24:48-51
48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Can a Christian be complacent in faith?

Absolutely!

Can a Christian turn to wickedness?

Off course!

Will Jesus do to that Christian, whose day and hour comes at his/her death, what he said he will do?

Absolutely!

Is there salvation after death for a complacent and wicked Christian, who continues his/her lifestyle onto their death?

Scripture and the words of Jesus clearly highlight that those who do not remain vigilant in faith and loyal to the saviour, even onto their death will not qualify for the crown of eternal life.

Again....is there salvation after death?

Yes, for the vigilant in faith and loyal to Jesus and No to the complacent in faith and disloyal to Jesus.

Jesus has the final words......

Blessed is the one who remains awake and clothed, so that he will not go naked and let his shame be exposed. (Revelation 16:15)

Being awake, is to be vigilant in faith.
Keeping your cloths, is to be loyal to the saviour.

Shame, is a result of eternal loss, when the servant is forever separated from his saviour.

Is there salvation after death?

Well, if people follow another religion called Universalism or Unitarianism, then they will negate the saviour out of the equation of salvation and that is exactly what both these antithesis religions do.

 

[The Times]

Hebrews 9:27 indicates the sequence of events upon dying.

You are right. In fact Romans 8:24-25 (Romans 8) clearly is tied to 2 Corinthians 5 and Hebrews 9.

8We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. (2 Corinthians 5:8-10)

The works done in the earthly body is what is permissible as evidence before the righteous Judge. After death, there is no more evidence to be taken into account and any post biological death assertions, whether made directly by the individual or made indirectly by family members and friends who are living, are therefore inadmissible as evidence, before the righteous judge and will not be taken into account, in his deliberation.