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Each person was shot and killed in September of 2017 in Chicago, a city with the tightest restrictions on guns in the US.

Each person was African American

Not one was shot by a cop

Not onewas helped, mentioned nor mourned by BLM or any other organization that has national attention 'on behalf' of African Americans. They are Just forgotten.
None of the people killing them were employed and trusted to keep them safe.
 
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Gun regulations need to be implemented on a national, as opposed to the state level, because firearms can be imported across state lines, from those jurisdictions where they can be easily obtained, without being detected.

Windsor Ontario Canada is less than a mile away from its American counterpart, Detroit, and yet the contrast in gun violence between the two couldn't be more dramatic!

Detroit, with its 2nd Amendment that allows handguns and semi-automatic firearms, averages 1 homicide daily, while Windsor, located in a nation where only hunting rifles and shotguns are allowed, went 27 months without a homicide.

Despite being within eyesight of Detroit, the primary difference is the lack of a "gun culture" in Windsor, whereby handguns and assault rifles which have served as the weapons of choice involving most homicides, are not readily available - despite its close proximity to one of America's most notorious cities known for gun violence!

Why pick Windsor? Why not some mountain village in the Himalayas? Apples and oranges.
 
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Each person was shot and killed in September of 2017 in Chicago, a city with the tightest restrictions on guns in the US.

Each person was African American

Not one was shot by a cop

Not onewas helped, mentioned nor mourned by BLM or any other organization that has national attention 'on behalf' of African Americans. They are Just forgotten.
Well maybe if white America didn't consider them feces, they wouldn't be forgotten.
 
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The number of blacks killed or injured unjustifiably by police is just a footnote compared to the number killed or injured by other blacks. That's why protests by BLM and others aren't taken very seriously outside of the black community.
 
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Well maybe if white America didn't consider them feces, they wouldn't be forgotten.

Even victims of the Las Vegas shooting will be quickly forgotten. There's only so much room in our heads for remembering such tragedies, especially when we don't know the victims personally and the event happened in a distant place. I'm at the point where I don't want to know anything beyond the headlines.
 
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The number of blacks killed or injured unjustifiably by police is just a footnote compared to the number killed or injured by other blacks. That's why protests by BLM and others aren't taken very seriously outside of the black community.
Thanks for sending the message that others outside the black community don't care about what happens in the black community. When you figure out what's wrong with that message, you'll get BLM.
 
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Blacks can complain all they want about police killings, but it pales quickly when black on black homicide numbers are presented.
So when a white civilian kills another white civilian, we're no longer allowed to object to the state using undue force and tyranny against us? Huh?
 
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The number of blacks killed or injured unjustifiably by police is just a footnote compared to the number killed or injured by other blacks. That's why protests by BLM and others aren't taken very seriously outside of the black community.
Ah. So black people tend to live in poor neighborhoods where they're more vulnerable to criminals than the general population for various reasons (desperation for money, lack of resources, etc.), so why should we care if they also suffer crap at the hands of the state? Make sure that they don't feel safe going to police when a criminal comes knocking. Great. What a loving attitude.
 
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Thanks for sending the message that others outside the black community don't care about what happens in the black community. When you figure out what's wrong with that message, you'll get BLM.

I care what happens in the black community, but the black community doesn't seem to care what happens in the black community. That's my point.

The only solution, as I see it, is for the black community to begin policing itself. That will eliminate the unjust actions of white police forces.
 
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Windsor Ontario Canada is less than a mile away from its American counterpart, Detroit as opposed to a different hemisphere.

They couldn't be more different, in size, demographics, and culture. Any comparison is ludicrous.
 
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I care what happens in the black community, but the black community doesn't seem to care what happens in the black community. That's my point.
No one really cares what it "seems" like to you. All that tells us is that you're looking for an excuse not to care, so you haven't looked.

Go look to see what's going on in your area, and then get involved in their efforts. You're on the Internet. It's easy.
 
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Ah. So black people tend to live in poor neighborhoods where they're more vulnerable to criminals than the general population for various reasons (desperation for money, lack of resources, etc.), so why should we care if they also suffer crap at the hands of the state? Make sure that they don't feel safe going to police when a criminal comes knocking. Great. What a loving attitude.

They should police themselves. Problem solved.
 
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No one really cares what it "seems" like to you. All that tells us is that you're looking for an excuse not to care, so you haven't looked.

Go look to see what's going on in your area, and then get involved in their efforts. You're on the Internet. It's easy.

We have an ongoing black crime problem in my city. I know all I need to know about it. It's been going on for decades, and is in the news every day. You can't drain the swamp until you deal with the alligators.

I am involved. My taxes pay for the police department. Also I'm law abiding, so the police don't have to waste time on me and can focus on black crime ( blacks are 8 percent of the population here but commit 45 percent of the crimes).
 
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We have an ongoing black crime problem in my city. I know all I need to know about it.
Clearly not, or you would be involved in the efforts to fix the problem instead of sitting on the Internet claiming that they don't exist and refusing to even look.

I can name half a dozen such organizations in my own city. Yet my father is much like you. He's never made an effort to look into what's going on, because then he can keep claiming that no one is doing anything, and therefore he doesn't need to, either. It's sad.
 
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Didn't you and I have a conversation a week or so ago where I definitively showed you that wasn't true?

I can't address your ego, nor how good you think you are, let's just say perhaps definitive is not an accurate word to use.

So, no, you did not.
 
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