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If So Certain of Alien life Why Send Signals?

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He means that all UFOS and other manifestations of aliens are really disobedient angels trying to mislead mankind. He also means that according to the Bible Earth has already been invaded in the past and is still occupied by these alien like creatures whose chief purpose in life is to ruin us.

they imagine these palid skinned, bulbous-headed little humanoids with huge slanted oval eyes and a slit for a mouth and panic.

So...weird little guys with no specific agenda = panic
aliens whose sole purpose is to ruin us = not panic?

I'll never understand Christianity.
 
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Isn't Sitchin's point that the gods of mankind are actually real, but that they are really those aliens? :)
Sitchin is assigned by the freemason to introduce their alien agenda, thats why they hide their massive UFOs now which shall be revealed after the rapture of the church so as to deceive people that those raptured are kidnapped by aliens.
 
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So...weird little guys with no specific agenda = panic
aliens whose sole purpose is to ruin us = not panic?

I'll never understand Christianity.

Are Christians really panicked over aliens? I find that most consider them just demons masquerading as aliens. People who do panic over aliens are people who do attribute agendas to them-such as genetic experimentations via human abductions.
 
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Sitchin is assigned by the freemason to introduce their alien agenda, thats why they hide their massive UFOs now which shall be revealed after the rapture of the church so as to deceive people that those raptured are kidnapped by aliens.
Raptured kidnapped by aliens? The Masons have huge UFO's? Excuse me but LOL!
 
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I find that most consider them just demons

"just demons" umm...Ok, didn't realise Christians considered demons were such a trivial force and easily discounted. Interesting that it's similar to the atheist attitude to demons.
 
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Some of the ancient art is believed by some people to show drawing of extra terrestrial life. Of course there are lots of other theories that attempt to explain their meaning.
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That's a partially eroded palimpsest at the temple of Seti 1st in Abydos, Egypt, where Seti's title was recarved to the title of his son, Rameses II. It's been clearly explained (i.e. debunked as pictures of alien or advanced technology) for around 20 years. Here's an archived explanation that covers it pretty well, and here's one with a video animation of the recarving.

Like most of these claims of images of 'ancient aliens', it's a result of ignorance, misunderstanding, or misinterpretation of the symbology of the cultures involved, or deliberate misleading for financial gain (often disguised and excused as TV documentaries 'for entertainment')
 
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"just demons" umm...Ok, didn't realise Christians considered demons were such a trivial force and easily discounted. Interesting that it's similar to the atheist attitude to demons.
Well, they consider demons doomed creatures who are totally wasting their time because they are up against insurmountable odds.
 
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That's a partially eroded palimpsest at the temple of Seti 1st in Abydos, Egypt, where Seti's title was recarved to the title of his son, Rameses II. It's been clearly explained (i.e. debunked as pictures of alien or advanced technology) for around 20 years. Here's an archived explanation that covers it pretty well, and here's one with a video animation of the recarving.

Like most of these claims of images of 'ancient aliens', it's a result of ignorance, misunderstanding, or misinterpretation of the symbology of the cultures involved, or deliberate misleading for financial gain (often disguised and excused as TV documentaries 'for entertainment')
So what is that thing that looks like a helicopter?
 
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So what is that thing that looks like a helicopter?
The details are in the links provided.

"What appears to be a "helicopter" is actually an example of two groups of hieroglyphs carved one on top of the other. The words psd.t "the ennead of nine" and X3s.wt "foreign countries" seems to have been carved one of top of the other. Clearly the artist / craftsman changed the hieroglyphs (perhaps from the change of kings Sety I to Ramesses II). The actual "helicopter" seems to be a portion of the psd.t sign and the X3s.t sign on top of each other with portions erased."

The video shows how it came to be:
 
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That's a partially eroded palimpsest at the temple of Seti 1st in Abydos, Egypt, where Seti's title was recarved to the title of his son, Rameses II. It's been clearly explained (i.e. debunked as pictures of alien or advanced technology) for around 20 years. Here's an archived explanation that covers it pretty well, and here's one with a video animation of the recarving.

Like most of these claims of images of 'ancient aliens', it's a result of ignorance, misunderstanding, or misinterpretation of the symbology of the cultures involved, or deliberate misleading for financial gain (often disguised and excused as TV documentaries 'for entertainment')
Is that the same explanation for the ancient carvings in Utah: it is some sort of a fraud? Creationists would say there are angles back then and this art does not actually depict aliens. Unless you consider an angel to be an alien.
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Is that the same explanation for the ancient carvings in Utah: it is some sort of a fraud? Creationists would say there are angles back then and this art does not actually depict aliens. Unless you consider an angel to be an alien.
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It's thought to be ancient Native American rock art. There are hundreds or thousands of images on the rocks in that area, and no reason to suppose they're anything but stylized representations of animals, people (often in ceremonial dress), and spirits. See The Stories In The Rocks...
 
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Sitchin is assigned by the freemason to introduce their alien agenda, thats why they hide their massive UFOs now which shall be revealed after the rapture of the church so as to deceive people that those raptured are kidnapped by aliens.

Uhu, uhu.
 
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Seems weird that they say they want to make contact when they know that contact can bring down on Earth an enemy that mankind could not deal with. Seems pretty stupid.
Firstly:

If there were "intelligent" entities out there, with advanced technology that allowed them to travel faster than the speed of light.... what on earth would they ever need from us?

Secondly: would they not stay far far away from a dysfunctional collection of life forms?

Thirdly: I don't believe there are "interplanetary" beings. I believe that they are "inter dimensional" beings and they are demonic.
I also believe that there are powers of this world, in governments and private organizations, that are actively seeking correspondence with these beings and achieving it.
We will see an ever increasing and open revealing of the actual reality of what has been going on when it comes to what has been named "UFO's" and other strange phenomenon that has been cloaked and hidden for many years.

People, we don't know the truth and we cannot handle the truth. This is why it is being revealed in tiny little increments.
 
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I also believe that there are powers of this world, in governments and private organizations, that are actively seeking correspondence with these beings and achieving it.

Really? Could you give some details? I'd love to be a part of either a government or private organisation succeeding at this.
 
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The question still is why are they frantically signaling where we are if they don't know what's out there?

Ignoring, for a second, all of the responses about Native American rock art and demons.

There are a few different schools of thought on how common life is in the Universe, how frequently intelligence evolves, and how often intelligence survives for long enough to allow a species to even reach out to its neighbors through radio or any other sort of signal. On the one hand, you have the idea that life is totally unique, which is very unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely. On the other, you have the idea that there are extremely advanced civilizations all over the place, which invites skepticism since...well, we haven't found any yet.

Between those two, you have a lot of more probable views. Maybe life is rarer than it would seem, because of some factor that we don't know about yet. Maybe it's fairly common for life to develop, but not for human-level intelligence to evolve (which is what I lean more heavily toward), and the civilizations that do exist are too few and far between to discover each other except serendipitously. After intelligence develops, maybe it's rare for it to really go anywhere, remaining at subsistence or near subsistence levels for the course of its entire existence.

Or, maybe it's common for intelligence to evolve, and then run itself right off of a bridge. Not a particularly optimistic standpoint, since we're driving about two hundred miles per hour right now over the metaphorical causeway.

It's impossible to be sure, without any evidence, which of those ideas is correct. What seems unlikely, though, is that there are a lot of extraterrestrial societies out there who are capable of practical interstellar travel and that we're going to accidentally contact them and have them show up to rain fire on our planet. It's a fun plot point in science fiction, but there's a good chance that it's not possible at all, and if it is then it seems likely that it's extremely rare for a society to reach the point of being able to do that. We'd know by now if we were absolutely surrounded by extraterrestrials with the ability and desire to colonize every planet within reach. Either we'd see evidence of their existence in the form of megastructures like Dyson Spheres, or we'd fail to see evidence because we would be dead. One of the two, probably the latter.

Most likely, we won't know one way or another whether we're alone in our fairly close neighborhood for a very long time. Sending out signals probably won't get a response in the near future, but it's also probably harmless.
 
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Most likely, we won't know one way or another whether we're alone in our fairly close neighborhood for a very long time. Sending out signals probably won't get a response in the near future, but it's also probably harmless.
You make a well argued case up until this point where you seem to imply that, since the probability of hostile aliens is so low, there is no reason not to announce our presence with signals.

The probabilty of my house burning down is quite low, but I still buy insurance. The probability of winning the lottery is low, but I still buy the occassional ticket. If my house burns down civilisation continues unaffected. If I win the lottery, civilisation continues unaffected. If hostile aliens sterlise humanity, civilisation ends.
 
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Really? Could you give some details? I'd love to be a part of either a government or private organisation succeeding at this.
You will not be included in these. But if you google it you will get an idea of how this is exploding... One question to ask is why is there so much activity in Antarctica and why did Admiral Byrd state that they encountered crafts, in Antarctica, that could navigate from pole to pole in an astonishing short amount of time.
Not only that but his "operation High Jump" was cut short and upon his return he gave a very confusing interview. Confusing yet very interesting.
 
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