Protesting the national anthem

[Strathos]

As many American football players are currently doing. Is it moral or not? Please give your opinion and reasoning.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

As many American football players are currently doing. Is it moral or not? Please give your opinion and reasoning.

I don't think it is a moral issue, but one that is hypocritical at least.

 

[Drick]

It's a little rude, but not immoral. More than anything, it's just lame and obnoxious.

 

[LionL]

Protest is the lifeblood of Democracy. America makes such a big deal, promoting itself as the defender of democracy worldwide, yet it doesn't like to see protests within its own borders.

Good on you, I say to the protesters.

 

[Nithavela]

I don't think they are protesting the anthem, they are protesting during the anthem.

 

[Freodin]

I don't think they are protesting the anthem, they are protesting during the anthem.

Really?????

I have heard from a very reliable and respectable source (*coughAlexJonescough*) that they do it to promote white genocide!

It's so much easier to condemn demonstrations when you ignore the true causes, isn't it?

 

[Ophiolite]

Perhaps my understanding is flawed, but it was my impression the football players (and owners) were not protesting the national anthem, but affirming its symbolic importance and that of the flag to America and Americans, while simultaneously drawing attention to the second class status accorded to many black Americans today.

If there are inequalities in American society, and surely few would deny this is true, it seems wholly appropriate to draw attention to these inequalities rather than paper over the cracks and pretend all is well. So I have voted, unreservedly, morally commendable.

 

[Dave-W]

I have heard from a very reliable and respectable source (*coughAlexJonescough*) that they do it to promote white genocide!

And that is why WHITE NFL players are going along with it?

 

[Dave RP]

As many American football players are currently doing. Is it moral or not? Please give your opinion and reasoning.

Speaking as an outsider, I find it astonishing that this should get the amount of publicity that it does. The US seems, from afar, to be obsessed with the flag and the national anthem. In the UK if the national team are playing in an international contest, we would play the anthem but for domestic games we would not, I cannot imagine every domestic professional football or rugby game playing the national anthem - it would be bizarre.

Reading a bit about the protests in the UK, it has been stated that the act of going down on one knee mirrors the actions of service men near casualties, and is therefore designed to avoid causing offence to the military whilst still making a point about the treatment of African Americans, if that is the case the protest seems proportional and reasonable.

I cannot for the life of me see why the President feels the need to get involved, and to be arguing about it with all and sundry.

 

[FireDragon76]

It's commendable. No flags were harmed during the protest. Protest is a fine, old, American tradition, going back to the beginning.

 

[The Brown Brink]

As many American football players are currently doing. Is it moral or not? Please give your opinion and reasoning.

I've read that the football players are protesting police brutality.
And I've read that Trump's people are spinning it to look like the players are protesting against America...

So tell me...
Who LIKES police brutality?
We've all seen the videos.
Surely police brutality is a good thing to protest.
Why spin it?
I dare say that most police officers would like to be rid of the crazy cops, too...
They give the good cops a bad name.

And you know...
Football is part of the entertainment industry.
It's a great platform from which to protest.
It's brilliant.

Why isn't this a good thing?

Again...
Who LIKES police brutality?

 

[Dave-W]

I've read that the football players are protesting police brutality.

Police brutality? What do they think this is, 1968? Where police routinely walked thru crowds of protesters with night sticks, bashing down everyone in their path? Arresting and applying pepper spray to handcuffed protesters?

I cannot find it now, but there used to be a video up from about 1970 that shows about a dozen hippy looking people (war protesters?) handcuffed in a police station. They were sitting on the floor. 2 officers were going from person to person; one holding their head still while the other dipped a Q-tip in Mace and applied it to the eyelids of each person. The screams of pain were gut-wrenching.

 

[Freodin]

And that is why WHITE NFL players are going along with it?

Yes! Isn't that diabolical? They must have been brainwashed, or turned by a huge bowl of Chilli! I'm not sure how my respectable and reliable source (*coughcoughALEXJONEScoughcough*) would explain that... most likely by them either being reptilians or deep state agents trying to distract the public from NASA's child-sex-slave-blood-harvesting operation on Mars.

 

[durangodawood]

I dont understand the poll option "morally commendable".

"Moral" basically just means acceptable behavior. Perfectly OK to do. Moral behavior is not necessarily commendable, is it?

I mean, if I buy an onion and pay for it, thats moral. But I hardly expect a medal.

 

[Ophiolite]

I dont understand the poll option "morally commendable".

"Moral" basically just means acceptable behavior. Perfectly OK to do. Moral behavior is not necessarily commendable, is it?

I mean, if I buy an onion and pay for it, thats moral. But I hardly expect a medal.

If you perform a moral act that carries with it personal risk I think that is arguably commendable. What risk do they face? If President Trump had his way they would lose their jobs. He might also favour them being arrested. During the arrest law enforcement officers don't need to be nice to the suspects. (Remember, that's official Presidential policy.)

It's rather off-topic, but did anyone explain to the President that a suspect is considered, legally, not guilty of any crime? The clue is in the name.








Banal

 

[W2L]

Lives their dream of being a football player, then complains about the country that made it possible.

 

[durangodawood]

Lives their dream of being a football player, then complains about the country that made it possible.

So because I made it big, therefore the government in my country is above reproach?

Sorry, but that make no sense at all.

 

[Phil 1:21]

Yes! Isn't that diabolical? They must have been brainwashed, or turned by a huge bowl of Chilli! I'm not sure how my respectable and reliable source (*coughcoughALEXJONEScoughcough*) would explain that... most likely by them either being reptilians or deep state agents trying to distract the public from NASA's child-sex-slave-blood-harvesting operation on Mars.

Alex Jones is literally his own parody.

 

[Earatha]

I don't care. If some men playing concussion-ball want to protest they have every right to do so. They have that right. Especially since they are doing so quietly, on the sidelines, not disrupting anyone else. I am a bit irritated by people who are saying these people should be fired or that they're horrible people for doing it.

 

[The Brown Brink]

Police brutality? What do they think this is, 1968? Where police routinely walked thru crowds of protesters with night sticks, bashing down everyone in their path? Arresting and applying pepper spray to handcuffed protesters?

I cannot find it now, but there used to be a video up from about 1970 that shows about a dozen hippy looking people (war protesters?) handcuffed in a police station. They were sitting on the floor. 2 officers were going from person to person; one holding their head still while the other dipped a Q-tip in Mace and applied it to the eyelids of each person. The screams of pain were gut-wrenching.

I don't get what you're saying...
You mean...they should be grateful that it's not 1968...when people were pepper-sprayed?
So...
Are we supposed to tolerate abuses...?...and be grateful that we're not treated even worse?

How is this an American thought?