So unlike the other topic I wanted to create a different version. Instead of asking who should who basically should pay for the healthcare and why, I'm asking should anyone pay for someone elses healthcare if they cannot afford it or its to expensive? Or should we let them essentially die because they cannot afford to get healthcare? These questions also refer to the fact you cannot be turned down at an ER (at least in America) even if you have no insurance.
For me this hits close to home and yet is complex. In my case I am on medicaid. So as some call it, its a hand out since it costs me nothing and cost others their money. Now without medicaid I would have been dead long ago. Thats 100% accurate. Now we will skip the lengthy debates about if someone should or should not be on medicaid since many abuse the system to get on it (lazy or lying) since theres no easy fix for that.
So I think everyone should be get it because why would we punish people in my situation who would otherwise be dead. And obviously I think those who abuse the system should be removed from it. And if they refuse to work and essentially could die because they don't want to work and get healthcare, then thats not really our problem. Again referring to LAZY people who are 100% able to work but don't because they just don't want to.
However one thing that makes this complex is those who make themselves sick. For example I find way to often those who smoke their whole lives and end up dying of lung cancer, their bills end up being left behind and we all pay the price for those bills (so to speak). So if you are a smoker (even if you can work), then I think some healthcare should be limited. This is in cases where its 100% obvious that the person get sick from their own lifestyle.
I do realize though we would have to figure out the line of what exactly do we consider making ones self sick. For example if you had bad parents who took you to MCDonalds and caused you weight issues, heart issues...etc... then maybe that is not really your fault. Unless you continue to eat McDonalds every day as an adult who lives on your own. Then your choosing your own fate. Like I said, this is a gray/blurry line of "making yourself sick".
One fix to all of this talk of people getting free care is to simply make new laws that force companies, doctors, pharmaceutical labs....etc in the healthcare industry to NOT charge 10,000% higher prices for everything from pills to ER visits and so on. For example if you go to an ER you get nicked and dimed for everything. If you go to the bathroom its like $10 per square of toilet paper. Well ok not really but you get my drift.
My meds alone without medicaid are about $8,000 a year. And mind you I have taken myself off some of my meds (with my doctors consent) to not only save people money, but because I know meds may help me, but they also can make my body worse in the long run.
Another example is my friend who has been out of a job for a few years now, he went to a dentist with no insurance and got a deep cleaning and one tooth drilled out and it was replace with a fake tooth because the tooth was rotten. It cost him about 7k. Thats crazy. As I said the real answer to all this is changing laws. Then even the poor or those who cannot work can get free healthcare and it wouldn't cost anyone else very much either.
For me this hits close to home and yet is complex. In my case I am on medicaid. So as some call it, its a hand out since it costs me nothing and cost others their money. Now without medicaid I would have been dead long ago. Thats 100% accurate. Now we will skip the lengthy debates about if someone should or should not be on medicaid since many abuse the system to get on it (lazy or lying) since theres no easy fix for that.
So I think everyone should be get it because why would we punish people in my situation who would otherwise be dead. And obviously I think those who abuse the system should be removed from it. And if they refuse to work and essentially could die because they don't want to work and get healthcare, then thats not really our problem. Again referring to LAZY people who are 100% able to work but don't because they just don't want to.
However one thing that makes this complex is those who make themselves sick. For example I find way to often those who smoke their whole lives and end up dying of lung cancer, their bills end up being left behind and we all pay the price for those bills (so to speak). So if you are a smoker (even if you can work), then I think some healthcare should be limited. This is in cases where its 100% obvious that the person get sick from their own lifestyle.
I do realize though we would have to figure out the line of what exactly do we consider making ones self sick. For example if you had bad parents who took you to MCDonalds and caused you weight issues, heart issues...etc... then maybe that is not really your fault. Unless you continue to eat McDonalds every day as an adult who lives on your own. Then your choosing your own fate. Like I said, this is a gray/blurry line of "making yourself sick".
One fix to all of this talk of people getting free care is to simply make new laws that force companies, doctors, pharmaceutical labs....etc in the healthcare industry to NOT charge 10,000% higher prices for everything from pills to ER visits and so on. For example if you go to an ER you get nicked and dimed for everything. If you go to the bathroom its like $10 per square of toilet paper. Well ok not really but you get my drift.
My meds alone without medicaid are about $8,000 a year. And mind you I have taken myself off some of my meds (with my doctors consent) to not only save people money, but because I know meds may help me, but they also can make my body worse in the long run.
Another example is my friend who has been out of a job for a few years now, he went to a dentist with no insurance and got a deep cleaning and one tooth drilled out and it was replace with a fake tooth because the tooth was rotten. It cost him about 7k. Thats crazy. As I said the real answer to all this is changing laws. Then even the poor or those who cannot work can get free healthcare and it wouldn't cost anyone else very much either.