Why no evidence FOR creation/ID?

[SkyWriting]

I am looking out the window and I see plenty of stuff that can be tested.

If one of them was a glass of wine Jesus created, you'll come to the wrong conclusion as to it's age.

 

[SkyWriting]

I say that you are making it all up.

That is an option. If the write has a poor reputation, they may be
working to trick you.

 

[Loudmouth]

If one of them was a glass of wine Jesus created, you'll come to the wrong conclusion as to it's age.

How so?

 

[TBDude65]

Been away for a while, come back and see the same 'arguments' against evolution.

And it is always... ALWAYS... 'arguments' against evolution.

NEVER arguments FOR creation/ID.

Analogies to human activity, bible verses, 'problems' with evolution - none of these, not one of them, is evidence FOR creation or ID.


It is almost as if creationists have admitted to themselves, subconsciously, that they cannot actually offer any positive supporting evidence FOR their mere beliefs, and are content to simply attack 'the other.' This is true, whether the creationist is a one-line snark master, or a verbose citation and quote bombing autodidact.

Creationism and ID have their roots in Natural Theology. This was a philosophical idea from religion that predated the theory of evolution (and was widely accepted prior to Darwin, even Darwin was a proponent of it while onboard the Beagle but his observations after the conclusion of his voyage led him to realize it was erroneous). It was never based on evidence and was always based on a religious interpretation of the appearance of life and the earth. It hasn't progressed since the 1800's, and I don't think scientists expect it to. It's the equivalent to alchemy in a sense

 

[SkyWriting]

That's how we evaluate the myths of all cultures.

A myth is simply a fact you choose to not believe.

 

[SkyWriting]

How so?

How To Tell The Age Of Wine | IF YOUR EXPENSIVE WINE IS FAKE

 

[Loudmouth]

A myth is simply a fact you choose to not believe.

Do you think everything in the Iliad really happened?

 

[AV1611VET]

I say that you are making it all up.

Then perhaps you need a course on Creationism 101; as does the OP?

Anyone asking why there is no evidence for creation either doesn't understand creationism, doesn't understand evidence, or both.

 

[Loudmouth]

How To Tell The Age Of Wine | IF YOUR EXPENSIVE WINE IS FAKE

I am going to be using 14C dating. What ratio of 14C/12C would this wine have, and why?

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you think everything in the Iliad really happened?

No one claims it did. Readers all through time claim it is fiction.

 

[Loudmouth]

Then perhaps you need a course on Creationism 101; as does the OP?

Anyone asking why there is no evidence for creation either doesn't understand creationism, doesn't understand evidence, or both.

I understand it just fine. Creationism is a myth which is why there is no evidence for it.

 

[Loudmouth]

No one claims it did.

"A myth is simply a fact you choose to not believe."--Sky Writing

That is exactly what you claimed.

 

[AV1611VET]

I understand it just fine.

Then I submit it's the nature of evidence you don't understand.

 

[TBDude65]

"A myth is simply a fact you choose to not believe."--Sky Writing

That is exactly what you claimed.

I claim the events in the Iliad actually happened


There, now there is someone claiming that. Proceed

 

[SkyWriting]

I am going to be using 14C dating. What ratio of 14C/12C would this wine have, and why?

It was the best wine tasted. 5-10 years is a common age if bottled.

 

[SkyWriting]

"A myth is simply a fact you choose to not believe."--Sky Writing

That is exactly what you claimed.

For one reason, because so many others claim it is fiction.

Fictional events register in the brain the same as actually experienced events.
That's why winning athletes train in their imagination.
Michael Phelps beat the world record by seconds because
he practiced swimming the event with his goggles full of water
in his imagination. When it happened, he had mentally already won.

 

[TBDude65]

For one reason, because so many others claim it is fiction.

So all it takes to prove something is a myth is for enough people to label it as such? That means you accept the Bible as myth then?

 

[tstor]

This is why their 'theory' can't make predictions about what we should be looking for.

I would suggest you check out Reason to Believe's creation model, which does supply predictions.
Reasons To Believe : Origin-of-Life Predictions Face Off: Evolution vs. Biblical Creation
Reasons To Believe : Creation Model Passes Big Test

 

[SkyWriting]

So all it takes to prove something is a myth is for enough people to label it as such? That means you accept the Bible as myth then?

That is only one factor. It really depends on the reputation of the person
making the determination. Some people have a clear agenda when evaluating.

 

[SkyWriting]

I would suggest you check out Reason to Believe's creation model, which does supply predictions.
Reasons To Believe : Origin-of-Life Predictions Face Off: Evolution vs. Biblical Creation
Reasons To Believe : Creation Model Passes Big Test

It's impossible for Creationists to predict the creationist model
not knowing the conditions before and during.

You must know the conditions previous, and during an event
to make predictions.