My Old Testament Challenge

[lesliedellow]

True or false?

The Big Bang is an Old Testament event.

The Old Testament is not in the business of enunciating scientific theories. Nevertheless, the big bang theory is compatible with creation ex nihilo.

 

[lesliedellow]

No, the Big Bang never happened. The central universe is the location of the eternal Isle of paradise. It's the geographical location of the eternal God, of infinity. The universe expands and contracts on 1 billion year cycles.

Poppycock.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Old Testament is not in the business of enunciating scientific theories.

From a TE point of view, the Old Testament times is any time between 13,700,000,000 BC - 1BC.

So if I asked if David stepped on an ant, would that be an Old Testament event, you scholars should answer YES.

But I always underestimate you guys' ability to confuse yourselves.

Nevertheless, the big bang theory is compatible with creation ex nihilo.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[lesliedellow]

From a TE point of view, the Old Testament times is any time between 13,700,000,000 BC - 1BC.

Theistic evolution is a philosophical interpretation of the Theory of Evolution in the light of Christian belief. Acceptance of the Theory of Evolution doesn't logically imply acceptance of the big bang theory, even though the two usually go together.

Depending upon whether they are theologically conservative, or otherwise, theistic evolutionists might believe that Abraham lived somewhere between 2000-1500BC, or, at the other extreme, they might think he never existed at all. My personal opinion is for me to know, and you to wonder at.

So if I asked if David stepped on an ant, would that be an Old Testament event, you scholars should answer YES.

It is unlikely that anybody could go through life without terminating the lives of some insects, intentionally or otherwise, but I do not recall the Old Testament saying anything about so minor a matter.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

I always suspected as much.

 

[Aman777]

The Old Testament was written about corrupt humanity, and it was written by corrupt men.

False, since the Holy Spirit breathed God's Truth into the men who penned the words from inside them. Your view is obviously flawed.

 

[Colter]

Poppycock.

Then It was God who exploded? Where was God before the universe that he indwells came into existence?

 

[Colter]

False, since the Holy Spirit breathed God's Truth into the men who penned the words from inside them. Your view is obviously flawed.

Your theory that God breathed into pens is obviously flawed since the Bible is terribly flawed. The same corrupt men who are featured in the Bible, who were capable of the corruption written about in the Bible, were also capable of the vast exaggerations of the books that they wrote about themselves.

A person doesn't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to figure out that men capable of killing the Son of God were capable of creating books wherein they are so prominently featured above the "Gentile dogs" (a term they invented in their bigoted writings). Anyway, one only needs to look at the actual history of the so called "chosen people" compared to their claims of an age which we have no history books for.

 

[lesliedellow]

Then It was God who exploded? Where was God before the universe that he indwells came into existence?

The same place he is now, if geographical location is even relevant to God's existence. We can no more conceptualise God than we can conceptualise four dimensional spacetime. We would need six Euclidean dimensions in which to embed it, and our imagination stops at three.

 

[brinny]

True or false?

The Big Bang is an Old Testament event.

Excellent question, my friend.

The answer is "false".

 

[AV1611VET]

Excellent question, my friend.

The answer is "false".

 

[brinny]

hahahaaa! Thank you sir.

 

[Colter]

The same place he is now, if geographical location is even relevant to God's existence. We can no more conceptualise God than we can conceptualise four dimensional spacetime. We would need six Euclidean dimensions in which to embed it, and our imagination stops at three.

God is where he has always been and will always be, Paradise.

 

[lesliedellow]

God is where he has always been and will always be, Paradise.

In order to talk about God at all we have to use metaphors, such as his sight, his hearing, his throne, and so on. Paradise, or heaven, as the place of God's residence is just one more of those.

 

[Aman777]

Your theory that God breathed into pens is obviously flawed since the Bible is terribly flawed. The same corrupt men who are featured in the Bible, who were capable of the corruption written about in the Bible, were also capable of the vast exaggerations of the books that they wrote about themselves.

The Bible is not flawed, but some interpretations are. ALL the men of the Bible were corrupt, just as all men are corrupt today.

*** A person doesn't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to figure out that men capable of killing the Son of God were capable of creating books wherein they are so prominently featured above the "Gentile dogs" (a term they invented in their bigoted writings). Anyway, one only needs to look at the actual history of the so called "chosen people" compared to their claims of an age which we have no history books for.

I regard our future Jewish brethren as "God's chosen" since they are examples of mankind without Christ. God Bless you

 

[quatona]

Ever heard of the following?

1. Noah's Flood
2. Tower of Babel
3. Parting of the Red Sea
4. Fall of Jerico
5. David and Goliath
6. Daniel in the Lion's Den

Those are known as "Old Testament events."

The reason is simple: they happened in Old Testament times.

You know? those dates that have "BC" after them?

Ever heard of the Big Bang?

It supposedly occurred in 13,700,000,000 BC.

Guess what that means?

It means it is an Old Testament event.

Make sense now?

So, by your use of terms, Thalomide is a New Testament event?

 

[AV1611VET]

So, by your use of terms, Thalomide is a New Testament event?

That is correct.

 

[quatona]

That is correct.

OK.
May I make a suggestion?
In case you plan to make further threads that serve the purpose of telling us about your personal terminology, could you simply give it right away, instead of "challenging" us to make guesses?

 

[lesliedellow]

That is correct.

Now how would most people interpret the phrase "New Testament event?" An event which is recorded in the New Testament, perhaps?

 

[AV1611VET]

OK.
May I make a suggestion?
In case you plan to make further threads that serve the purpose of telling us about your personal terminology, could you simply give it right away, instead of "challenging" us to make guesses?

You mean to tell me you don't know the difference between BC and AD?

Are you a scientist?

Because if you are, then I would understand.

 

[AV1611VET]

Now how would most people interpret the phrase "New Testament event?" An event which is recorded in the New Testament, perhaps?

It doesn't even have to be recorded.

Are you a New Testament saint?