The Press Declares the Alt:Right to be Bigotted and Terrorist

[Monk Brendan]

If I have posted this in the wrong forum, please move it to the correct one, thank you.

First of all, I must point out that I am horrified at the activity in Charlottesville. NOBODY on the Left, Right or Center has ANY right to kill, hurt, or in any other way injure anyone else.

Now, to begin at the beginning, the trouble began when several states, mostly driven by politically correct citizens, demanded that the statues of various heroes of the South be taken down. That's okay. It is their state, and every citizen has the right to be heard. I may be for or against such a measure, but I am allowed to state an opinion, so that's cool.

What I do have a problem with is taking down statues of General Robert E. Lee. If the PC Police want to vilify him, well, freedom of the press means that whoever owns the press has the freedom to print what they want. Robert E. Lee was a pious church man, and, notwithstanding what most web sites say, he was not in favor of slavery or secession. Before the Civil war began, he was asked to take over as Superintendent of West Point. When a Black man came to Communion (Episcopalian) after the war, Lee was the only man in the congregation to come down to the communion rail with him and kneel beside him.

He graduated #2 from West Point. When the Civil War started, he was offered several prominent posts in the Union Army. When Virginia seceded, he followed his own state into the Confederacy, even though he was opposed to the secession.

He is a historic figure, and making him an unperson will confuse all future students of the Civil War. General Grant will end up taking the surrender of this obscure Southern General that nobody knows, because he has been erased from History

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Robert E. Lee
When a Black man came to Communion (Episcopalian) after the war, Lee was the only man in the congregation to come down to the communion rail with him and kneel beside him.

Some people are so determined to tear this Country apart -- they attempt to destroy the reputations of good God loving and fearing people. Not even knowing that they are being played by the dark side.
M-Bob

 

[Pappy&Me]

Some people are so determined to tear this Country apart -- they attempt to destroy the reputations of good God loving and fearing people. Not even knowing that they are being played by the dark side.
M-Bob

Who are these people in your opinion? I don't know if I should like it or not.
I'm a old southern Belle. And we loved all people till some came in to divide us.
I grew up running up and down that huugggge 'Trump size ' rock called Stone Mountain [the largest piece of solid granite on earth ,2/3 is underground]. We also had a place in Atlanta. Well both places have been destroyed and now they want to blow the Generals off my mountain.

 

[frienden thalord]

Press declares it , because it is part of a larger agenda.
Go to and look at who else has said , evangelicals , alt right etc are terroists.
the agenda is from satan himself. He will use men in high places
to use bad examples of what the true christanity is. So as to make men
fear the true christain , and at the same time a new religion of all inclusive
is preached. blending all religions and faiths as equal as valid , as salvation.
and even these men have said evangelicals , are dangerous.
Seems to be , that a dark agenda is at work. A all one mold fit all religion
that accepts all as is, no sin, accepts all religions as valid, all inclusive is gaining popularity
for world peace.
While the true christains want no part of it , cause they know Only JESUS saves
and two. that JESUS aint no minister of sin.
So the last house standing gainst this all inclusive mindset
they try and make evil. They vaant or want a ONE WORLD ORDER with a ONE WORLD
relgion. and all who refuse this lie , well what was the result that came from
making the jews look evil. Six million dead. well looks like history repeats
only this time the bloodshed will be countless dead. and this all inclusive bear
hug for world peace relgion will think it does gods will as they kill the true ones.
PROPOGANDA has always worked on the minds of those who know not Christ .

 

[Pappy&Me]

Yea we already have more gods than the Romans did.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Who are these people in your opinion? I don't know if I should like it or not.

Referring to the ones who wish to remove the Robert E. Lee statue.

M-Bob

 

[Aldebaran]

Referring to the ones who wish to remove the Robert E. Lee statue.

M-Bob

That's one way to change our history, as Michelle "O" once said Barack wanted to do.

 

[Archivist]

General Lee was a great man whose great mistake was choosing to fight for the side that 1) supported slavery and 2) lost. One of my favorite Civil War generals--George Meade--certainly kicked his butt at Gettysburg, although Lee had his way with several incompetent Northern generals.

I agree with you that North and South are both part of our history. We can't pretend that the South didn't exist or that the brave men who fought in its armies were not decent human beings who fought for a cause in which they believed. Unfortunately that seems to be what is happening now. Having said that, remember that in this case the statue is owned by the City of Charlottesville and stands on city land. It is not privately owned nor is it owned by the state or Federal government. If the people of Charlottesville choose to remove it, that is their business, not the business of those of us who live outside of the city.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

I've always said the alt-right is that. Now mind you I've never heard a definition of what alt-right actually means. I just assume it means the extremists, like the KKK, and other hate groups or groups that wish to cause chaos. As a former republican I guess I was just regular right? Now I'm neither republican nor democrat and neither left or right. I'm nothing.

And I find it best if people who are on either side just say they are nothing to because if you don't then expect to be stereotyped a certain way.

 

[Korean-American Christian]

What I do have a problem with is taking down statues of General Robert E. Lee. If the PC Police want to vilify him, well, freedom of the press means that whoever owns the press has the freedom to print what they want. Robert E. Lee was a pious church man, and, notwithstanding what most web sites say, he was not in favor of slavery

Some people are so determined to tear this Country apart -- they attempt to destroy the reputations of good God loving and fearing people.
M-Bob

General Lee was a great man

In a famous letter to his wife, Lee wrote that "slavery as an institution, is a moral and political evil in any country."

Viewed in isolation, that seems like a pretty firm condemnation. However, in the same letter, he said that slavery was worse for white people than it was for black people and that it was necessary for black people to endure slavery, for now anyways, so that they might be civilized.

"The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their instruction as a race... How long their subjugation may be necessary is known and ordered by a wise Merciful Providence," Lee wrote.

Lee had the chance to decide for himself the duration of this supposedly necessary evil, at least for dozens of slaves his wife owned. When decision time came, cool economic expedience carried the day.

Lee was born to what had been an old and wealthy Virginia family, but its wealth had been squandered by the time he came of age. His wife, though, was the adoptive descendant of George Washington and the heiress to a massive plantation network.

In his will, Lee's father-in-law had asked that the family's slaves be emancipated after he died when "expedient and proper."

Lee, acting as executor of the wealthy man's will after he died, eventually complied, but not until after the slaves were kept in bondage long enough to right the financial ship of the plantation, which had fallen on hard times.

Lee owned slaves of his own before the Civil War, as late as 1852, and considered buying more even after that, according to Elizabeth Brown Pryor's biography, which is based on Lee's writings and correspondence.

 

[Rion]

I've always said the alt-right is that. Now mind you I've never heard a definition of what alt-right actually means. I just assume it means the extremists, like the KKK, and other hate groups or groups that wish to cause chaos. As a former republican I guess I was just regular right? Now I'm neither republican nor democrat and neither left or right. I'm nothing.

And I find it best if people who are on either side just say they are nothing to because if you don't then expect to be stereotyped a certain way.

The problem is the press is labeling everything as alt-right. There's a reporter named Tim Pool who is center-left, and he is called alt-right because he'll talk to Trump supporters. Al-Jazeera accused him of being a white supremacist for saying that not all white people were responsible for the Charlottesville thing. He's also half-asian.

 

[Aldebaran]

I've always said the alt-right is that. Now mind you I've never heard a definition of what alt-right actually means. I just assume it means the extremists, like the KKK, and other hate groups or groups that wish to cause chaos. As a former republican I guess I was just regular right? Now I'm neither republican nor democrat and neither left or right. I'm nothing.

And I find it best if people who are on either side just say they are nothing to because if you don't then expect to be stereotyped a certain way.

It seems like now, even on this site, people who speak in favor of Trump are labeled as alt-right because they feel that Trump was actually a candidate of the alt-right during the election, and therefore the Trump detractors pretty much label anyone who supports Trump now with that label.

 

[frienden thalord]

The problem is the press is labeling everything as alt-right. There's a reporter named Tim Pool who is center-left, and he is called alt-right because he'll talk to Trump supporters. Al-Jazeera accused him of being a white supremacist for saying that not all white people were responsible for the Charlottesville thing. He's also half-asian.

Because a much larger agenda is at work. Much larger. way larger .
wait till biblical christanity becomes the blame . OH that is the agenda. I said biblcal
cause any christain who runs to this dung pile interfaith , well that one will be seen as love.
Their is such a thing as one world order and it has its one world regligoin. interfaith.

 

[frienden thalord]

And all who resist this religion , this order. well they just haters and dangerous.
I PROMISE this is where this is all headed.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

It seems like now, even on this site, people who speak in favor of Trump are labeled as alt-right because they feel that Trump was actually a candidate of the alt-right during the election, and therefore the Trump detractors pretty much label anyone who supports Trump now with that label.

Indeed. I used to say I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against Hillary. But it still means I get labeled a bigot, a racist...etc. Doesn't matter if its not true to them. I mean my "likes" factor for both Hillary and Trump on a 1 to 10 scale (10 being love, 1 being hate) is like Hillary I'd give a 0.001%. Trump I'd give a 0.005%. I don't like either. Voting this time around was just a russian roulette with Trump being the wild card that would either work out great or work out terrible.

 

[Aldebaran]

Indeed. I used to say I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against Hillary. But it still means I get labeled a bigot, a racist...etc. Doesn't matter if its not true to them. I mean my "likes" factor for both Hillary and Trump on a 1 to 10 scale (10 being love, 1 being hate) is like Hillary I'd give a 0.001%. Trump I'd give a 0.005%. I don't like either. Voting this time around was just a russian roulette with Trump being the wild card that would either work out great or work out terrible.

I know what you mean. I didn't care for Trump when he was a candidate and don't care for much of what he says or does now, but am still glad he is the president considering who the alternative was.

 

[Archivist]

In a famous letter to his wife, Lee wrote that "slavery as an institution, is a moral and political evil in any country."

Viewed in isolation, that seems like a pretty firm condemnation. However, in the same letter, he said that slavery was worse for white people than it was for black people and that it was necessary for black people to endure slavery, for now anyways, so that they might be civilized.

"The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their instruction as a race... How long their subjugation may be necessary is known and ordered by a wise Merciful Providence," Lee wrote.

Lee had the chance to decide for himself the duration of this supposedly necessary evil, at least for dozens of slaves his wife owned. When decision time came, cool economic expedience carried the day.

Lee was born to what had been an old and wealthy Virginia family, but its wealth had been squandered by the time he came of age. His wife, though, was the adoptive descendant of George Washington and the heiress to a massive plantation network.

In his will, Lee's father-in-law had asked that the family's slaves be emancipated after he died when "expedient and proper."

Lee, acting as executor of the wealthy man's will after he died, eventually complied, but not until after the slaves were kept in bondage long enough to right the financial ship of the plantation, which had fallen on hard times.

Lee owned slaves of his own before the Civil War, as late as 1852, and considered buying more even after that, according to Elizabeth Brown Pryor's biography, which is based on Lee's writings and correspondence.

And none of what you have said disagrees with my statement that Lee was a great man.

 

[Pappy&Me]

In a famous letter to his wife, Lee wrote that "slavery as an institution, is a moral and political evil in any country."

Viewed in isolation, that seems like a pretty firm condemnation. However, in the same letter, he said that slavery was worse for white people than it was for black people and that it was necessary for black people to endure slavery, for now anyways, so that they might be civilized.

"The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their instruction as a race... How long their subjugation may be necessary is known and ordered by a wise Merciful Providence," Lee wrote.

Lee had the chance to decide for himself the duration of this supposedly necessary evil, at least for dozens of slaves his wife owned. When decision time came, cool economic expedience carried the day.

Lee was born to what had been an old and wealthy Virginia family, but its wealth had been squandered by the time he came of age. His wife, though, was the adoptive descendant of George Washington and the heiress to a massive plantation network.

In his will, Lee's father-in-law had asked that the family's slaves be emancipated after he died when "expedient and proper."

Lee, acting as executor of the wealthy man's will after he died, eventually complied, but not until after the slaves were kept in bondage long enough to right the financial ship of the plantation, which had fallen on hard times.

Lee owned slaves of his own before the Civil War, as late as 1852, and considered buying more even after that, according to Elizabeth Brown Pryor's biography, which is based on Lee's writings and correspondence.

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Half truth's and even some lies are part of our history today. Lee knew if he released slaves they would end up in trouble or into a different kind of slavery up north. Like the Carpetbaggers did to child slaves, miners and migrant workers who were mostly white. Most slaves were owned by oligarch's and bankers like the ones who set up the Federal Reserve. Poor southern Americans couldn't afford slaves.
Also when will Africa have to pay some restitution for all the slaves they sold all over the world? How about Spain and other nations who owned slaves? Today in Africa Christians are still buying back slaves from tribes of muslim and other Africans. Slaves were sold by their arab and black masters all over the world. Why just America has to do all the giving? We were the first nation to abolish slavery Spain second.

 

[Hank77]

Stone Mountain [the largest piece of solid granite on earth ,2/3 is underground]. We also had a place in Atlanta. Well both places have been destroyed and now they want to blow the Generals off my mountain.

Who does? Now I would protest against that.

 

[Pappy&Me]

Who does? Now I would protest against that.

The radical left and its supporters. I could show you youtube. But I don't how how to paste.