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Who/what are the four horsemen of the apocalypse?

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The four horsemen of the apocalypse are described in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1-8. The four horsemen are symbolic descriptions of different events which will take place in the fulfillment of the 70th and final "Week" of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel, in Dan.9:27. Also known as the seven year Tribulation, Jacob's Trouble of Jer.30:7 and the Day of the Lord. Referred to by Jesus in His Olivet Discourse in Mt.24; Mk.13 and in Lk.21.

The first horseman of the apocalypse is mentioned in Revelation 6:2, "I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest." This first horseman refers to the antichrist, who will be given authority and will conquer all who oppose him. The antichrist is the false imitator of Jesus Christ, who will return on a white horse in His second coming to the earth (Revelation 19:11-16).

The second horseman of the apocalypse is referred to in Revelation 6:4, "Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword." The second horseman refers to terrible warfare that will break out in the end times.

The third horseman is described in Revelation 6:5-6, “...and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, ‘A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!’” The third horseman of the apocalypse refers to a great famine that will take place, as a result of the wars from the second horseman. Food will be scarce, but wine and oil will still be readily available.

The fourth horseman is mentioned in Revelation 6:8, "I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth."

The fourth horseman of the apocalypse is symbolic of death and devastation. The fourth horseman of the apocalypse will bring further warfare and devastating famines along with awful plagues and diseases.

The last two horsemen of the apocalypse are precursors of the terrible judgments that come later in the final three and a half years of the seven year Tribulation, known as the Great Tribulation [Revelation chapters 8-9 and 16].


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The four horsemen of the apocalypse are described in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1-8. The four horsemen are symbolic descriptions of different events which will take place in the fulfillment of the 70th and final "Week" of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel, in Dan.9:27. Also known as the seven year Tribulation, Jacob's Trouble of Jer.30:7 and the Day of the Lord. Referred to by Jesus in His Olivet Discourse in Mt.24; Mk.13 and in Lk.21.

The first horseman of the apocalypse is mentioned in Revelation 6:2, "I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest." This first horseman refers to the antichrist, who will be given authority and will conquer all who oppose him. The antichrist is the false imitator of Jesus Christ, who will return on a white horse in His second coming to the earth (Revelation 19:11-16).

The second horseman of the apocalypse is referred to in Revelation 6:4, "Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword." The second horseman refers to terrible warfare that will break out in the end times.

The third horseman is described in Revelation 6:5-6, “...and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, ‘A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!’” The third horseman of the apocalypse refers to a great famine that will take place, as a result of the wars from the second horseman. Food will be scarce, but wine and oil will still be readily available.

The fourth horseman is mentioned in Revelation 6:8, "I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth."

The fourth horseman of the apocalypse is symbolic of death and devastation. The fourth horseman of the apocalypse will bring further warfare and devastating famines along with awful plagues and diseases.

The last two horsemen of the apocalypse are precursors of the terrible judgments that come later in the final three and a half years of the seven year Tribulation, known as the Great Tribulation [Revelation chapters 8-9 and 16].


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The Four Horsemen are the same guy, the first four seals represent the rise of the Antichrist. The fifth seal reveal the martyrs beneath the alter asking how long will God wait to avenge their blood. The sixth seal is cataclysmic wrath and they all hide in the dens and caves of the rocks to hid from the 'Lamb'. In the opening scenes the Antichrist is seen as the World Conqueror, followed by World War, World Famine and finally World Plague. It's all the same guy but at the same time he is raising an army and creating a terrible mess.
 
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Not to be mean or anything, but you didn't tell us who they are. You told us what they are. If the first seal is anti-Christ, who is he?
When the time comes I doubt seriously the Devil is going to have a shortage of candidates. Any ruthless child of perdition will do.
 
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Any ruthless child of perdition will do.
Not really.
Each seal has a rider, a few implements, a mission or goal, and conditions, results and consequences, even different colors. ALL should be considered in our interpretation. They are far more detailed than what's depicted in the OP.
 
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Not really.
Each seal has a rider, a few implements, a mission or goal, and conditions, results and consequences, even different colors. ALL should be considered in our interpretation. They are far more than what's depicted in the OP.
It doesn't mean it's not the same guy, just that the circumstances are getting increasingly violent and he is tightening his grip. At any given time in the last two thousand years there have been prime candidates for this role, God just hasn't started opening the seals yet.
 
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It doesn't mean it's not the same guy, just that the circumstances are getting increasingly violent and he is tightening his grip. At any given time in the last two thousand years there have been prime candidates for this role, God just hasn't started opening the seals yet.
The candidates are end-time players. They didn't exist millennia ago. Everything about the seals are end-time related, otherwise, it defeats their original purpose.
 
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The candidates are end-time players. They didn't exist millennia ago. Everything about the seals are end-time related, otherwise, it defeats their original purpose.
We are not talking about when, we are talking about who. At this point we don't have a clue especially if it doesn't happen in our lifetime. Of course there must be some grooming and preparation from the Devil and his cohorts but there hasn't been a time in the last two thousand years he didn't have a suitable candidate.
 
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We are not talking about when, we are talking about who. At this point we don't have a clue especially if it doesn't happen in our lifetime. Of course there must be some grooming and preparation from the Devil and his cohorts but there hasn't been a time in the last two thousand years he didn't have a suitable candidate.
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At any given time in the last two thousand years there have been prime candidates for this role, God just hasn't started opening the seals yet.

My response was about when and whom. 'When' does make a big difference because any person that existed many moons ago is disqualified.
 
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Why push someone to name the antichrist at this point. My feeling is that the antichrist is alive right now but is not a person of any current significant power.

He will start as the little horn and grow in power.

I expect the antichrist will be the muslim mahdi. The muslim books say say the mahdi will be named muhammed. So take that for what it is worth.
 
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Why push someone to name the antichrist at this point. My feeling is that the antichrist is alive right now but is not a person of any current significant power.

He will start as the little horn and grow in power.

I expect the antichrist will be the muslim mahdi. The muslim books say say the mahdi will be named muhammed. So take that for what it is worth.
I didn't push anyone on anything. The OP says the rider of the white horse is the anti-christ and was asking if he had some ideas.
 
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We are told that only the Lamb was found worthy to open the seals and reveal their meaning , soooooooooo.
1st horseman = Many shall come in my name saying I am the Christ and shall deceive many.
2nd horseman = wars and rumours of wars , nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
3rd horseman = And there will be famines.
4th horseman = And pestilences and earth quakes and what ever.

And as usual , it's always the first horseman and what he equals that causes discussion. Is Jesus referring to Christians and Christianity or is he referring to heaps and heaps of people claiming to be Jesus Christ. The answer as always, is what ever you want to think.
 
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We are told that only the Lamb was found worthy to open the seals and reveal their meaning , soooooooooo.
1st horseman = Many shall come in my name saying I am the Christ and shall deceive many.
2nd horseman = wars and rumours of wars , nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
3rd horseman = And there will be famines.
4th horseman = And pestilences and earth quakes and what ever.

And as usual , it's always the first horseman and what he equals that causes discussion. Is Jesus referring to Christians and Christianity or is he referring to heaps and heaps of people claiming to be Jesus Christ. The answer as always, is what ever you want to think.
The answer is there to be found, all you need is the desire to find it. If truth is what we desire, it can be found utilizing a reliable method of interpretation.
 
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You said,


My response was about when and whom. 'When' does make a big difference because any person that existed many moons ago is disqualified.
You really have no interest in the text do you.
 
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imsaneru said,
We are told that only the Lamb was found worthy to open the seals and reveal their meaning , soooooooooo.
No one was found "to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon." Only Jesus was found to be worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof:

John does what he is instructed to do and that is write what he sees and how he perceive what he sees.
As far as revealing the meaning of the seals and open scroll, that's up to us. We have the prophecy.
 
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Just what are you getting at? And where are you coming from?
You have nothing to say about the four horsemen you just like taking shots at what someone else says. You clearly don't care about the text, what are you doing here?
 
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You have nothing to say about the four horsemen you just like taking shots at what someone else says. You clearly don't care about the text, what are you doing here?
What do you mean I'm taking shots? Are we at the range or something? I think you're just trying to get under my skin big guy. I bet I know what's going on.
 
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What do you mean I'm taking shots? Are we at the range or something? I think you're just trying to get under my skin big guy. I bet I know what's going on.
Bet you have no concern whatsoever when it comes to the four horsemen. The identity or otherwise. Where is your exposition, do you think you have a valid interpretation or to you just want to make biting remarks about what other people think? I'm interesting in the topic, would appreciate it if you would stop trying to derail the topic.
 
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