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They don't become clean or unclean by themselves either ...
GOD declared what we are allowed to or not to
And certain animals were declared unclean or clean to and for us
 
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Could you restate that... by saying "don't believe" and "not the case" I am not sure what you believe. Thanks. :)

I was referring to what you had said, as believeing this is the case.
 
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One of the introductions to the concept of babylon ...
The reason was that those in Babylon lost sight of who they are (just men) in relation to who GOD is

They had no need for, nor did they realize their need for GOD
 
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GOD declared what we are allowed to or not to
And certain animals were declared unclean or clean to and for us

Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Why did God seemingly change his mind with Moses ...
 
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I'm sure, if it weren't for Christians testifying, all men would be just pleased to go about doing as they wish with no concern for duality

But while HE is in the world, HE convicts the world of sin

The world doesn't like to hear that
 
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Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Why did God seemingly change his mind with Moses ...
Because HE was one step ahead of "smart___ "priests" who offered the lame and diseased animals as offerings before GOD thinking HE should accept it and them

"Give them to your governor...would he be pleased"
 
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Because HE was one step ahead of "smart___ "priests" who offered the lame and diseased animals as offerings before GOD thinking HE should accept it and them

"Give them to your governor...would he be pleased"

That's one way of looking at it ...
 
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Already

One died therefore ALL were dead

And one died so that what was dead might be brought back and made alive to GOD because of the one who laid down HIS LIFE for them
 
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I'm sure, if it weren't for Christians testifying, all men would be just pleased to go about doing as they wish with no concern for duality

But while HE is in the world, HE convicts the world of sin

The world doesn't like to hear that

Christians as a whole (more often then not) testify of this duality, without ever realizing they have (though its not out of order).
 
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One died therefore ALL were dead

And one died so that what was dead might be brought back and made alive to GOD because of the one who laid down HIS LIFE for them

I'm talking of how it got from point A, to point B ... unless you believe God created Adam as an unclean animal?
 
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I'm talking of how it got from point A, to point B ... unless you believe God created Adam as an unclean animal?
Well if you want to discuss Adam did you examine the first commandment
 
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No HE didn't become unclean

That was thw reason why all were being healed

I suggest you read Haggai 2

All were declared unclean

Messiah was touching and being touched and all who were declared already by GOD's WORD as unclean (who believed by faith) were made clean

It did not make HIM unclean because HE was HOLY
We can't have this discussion. You seem to think that being unclean is unholy, it is not. Until you understand that, respectfully, we will just need to wait to discuss things on a different topic. Everyone becomes unclean from time to time, everyone... and that has nothing to do with being set apart (holy)... it is a condition that is NOT related to sin (at all) and is reversible.
 
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Then what do you make of:

Do not.........when you do


I see GRACE

what do you see?

I see life, being that the commandment came from heaven (so to speak); if it leads to heaven then it must first have came down from heaven.
 
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How did the animals get from "very good" to both "clean and unclean ..."


mans perception by way of comparison and its measurement between opposites seeing GOD does not change His mind on matters, but for His purpose causes division in man to bring him to an end/new beginning of himself ...

roasted locust dipped in honey sounds mighty tasty to me but some may find the thought detestable ....
 
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How did the animals get from "very good" to both "clean and unclean ..."


mans perception by way of comparison and its measurement between opposites seeing GOD does not change His mind on matters, but for His purpose causes division in man to bring him to an end/new beginning of himself ...

roasted locust dipped in honey sounds mighty tasty to me but some may find the thought detestable ....
I prefer chocolate cockroaches myself.
 
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