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For John the jesish Chief rulers, scribes, Phariseeses and Romans, the group Ultimately stands for the forces opposed to Jesus, which are the "forces of darkness". Instead it is much simpler to show how the Gospel of John, like the other gospels, associates the "Mythological" figue of Satan with specific human opposition. Joh 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
uk 11:47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. 48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. 53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
Paul says in regard to Roman and Jewish rulers: Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, (human beings) but against principalities, against powers, against the world rulers of the present darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in (worldy) high places.
Luke goes so far as to say the Romans and Jewish authorities became friends that day when they forged the crucifixation of Jesus. Luk 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.
13 And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,
100 C.E. John dismisses the device of the devil as an independent supernatural character.
John calls the Jewish authorities seperate followers of darkness from light. The Origin of Satan , scanned from my book pages 104-112
Realize that Yahweh made a Satan/trickster (Necessitated it by need To act as His purpose for testing).
Job 1:6 One day when the sons of Elohim came to stand in front of Yahweh, a trickster acting as the adversary came along with them.
Remember that Yahweh is the Lord of the Hosts (prince of the Hosts of Heaven).
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the PRINCE of the power OF THE AIR, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

WHO was that PRINCE that Paul used in his expression?

Shu (Su) was the god of dry air, wind and the atmosphere. He was also related to the sun, possibly as an aspect of sunlight. He was the son of the creator god, father of the twin sky and the earth deities and the one who held the sky off of the earth.

He was one of the gods who protected Ra on his journey through the underworld, using magic spells to ward off Ra's enemy, the water snake-demon Apep. As with other protector gods, he had a darker side - he was also a god of punishment in the land of the dead, leading executioners and torturers to kill off the corrupt souls. His name might be derived from the word for dryness - shu, the root of words such as 'dry', 'parched', 'withered', 'sunlight' and 'empty'. His name could also mean 'He who Rises Up'.

As a god of the wind, the people invoked him to give good wind to the sails of the boats. It was he who was the personification of the cold northern winds; he was the breath of life - the vital principle of all living things. His bones were thought to be clouds. He was also called to 'lift up' the spirits of the dead so that they might rise up to the heavens, known as the 'light land', reached by means of a giant 'ladder' that Shu was thought to hold up.

During his travels through the underworld, he protected Ra from the water snake-demon Apep, with spells to counteract the serpent and his followers. He participated in the judgement of the deceased in the Halls of Ma'ati as the leader of aggressive, punishing beings who were to eliminate the ones not worthy of the afterlife.
Egypt's second divine ruler, Shu was one of the great Ennead. A god of the wind, the atmosphere, the space between the sky and the earth, Shu was the division between day and night, the underworld and the living world. He was a god related to living, allowing life to flourish in Egypt with his breath of life. He was the bridge between life and death, both a protector and a punisher in the afterlife. To the Egyptians, if there was no Shu, there would be no life - Egypt existed thanks to Shu.
 
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For John the jewish Chief rulers, scribes, Phariseeses and Romans, the group Ultimately stands for the forces opposed to Jesus, which are the "forces of darkness". Instead it is much simpler to show how the Gospel of John, like the other gospels, associates the "Mythological" figue of Satan with specific human opposition. Joh 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
uk 11:47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. 48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. 53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
Paul says in regard to Roman and Jewish rulers: Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, (human beings) but against principalities, against powers, against the world rulers of the present darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in (worldy) high places.
Luke goes so far as to say the Romans and Jewish authorities became friends that day when they forged the crucifixation of Jesus. Luk 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.
13 And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,
100 C.E. John dismisses the device of the devil as an independent supernatural character.
John calls the Jewish authorities seperate followers of darkness from light. The Origin of Satan , scanned from my book pages 104-112
Realize that Yahweh made a Satan/trickster (Necessitated it by need To act as His purpose for testing).
Job 1:6 One day when the sons of Elohim came to stand in front of Yahweh, a trickster acting as the adversary came along with them.
Remember that Yahweh is the Lord of the Hosts (prince of the Hosts of Heaven).
 
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For John the jesish Chief rulers, scribes, Phariseeses and Romans, the group Ultimately stands for the forces opposed to Jesus, which are the "forces of darkness". Instead it is much simpler to show how the Gospel of John, like the other gospels, associates the "Mythological" figue of Satan with specific human opposition. Joh 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
uk 11:47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. 48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. 53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
Paul says in regard to Roman and Jewish rulers: Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, (human beings) but against principalities, against powers, against the world rulers of the present darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in (worldy) high places.
Luke goes so far as to say the Romans and Jewish authorities became friends that day when they forged the crucifixation of Jesus. Luk 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.
13 And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,
100 C.E. John dismisses the device of the devil as an independent supernatural character.
John calls the Jewish authorities seperate followers of darkness from light. The Origin of Satan , scanned from my book pages 104-112
Realize that Yahweh made a Satan/trickster (Necessitated it by need To act as His purpose for testing).
Job 1:6 One day when the sons of Elohim came to stand in front of Yahweh, a trickster acting as the adversary came along with them.
Remember that Yahweh is the Lord of the Hosts (prince of the Hosts of Heaven).
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the PRINCE of the power OF THE AIR, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

WHO was that PRINCE that Paul used in his expression?

Shu (Su) was the god of dry air, wind and the atmosphere. He was also related to the sun, possibly as an aspect of sunlight. He was the son of the creator god, father of the twin sky and the earth deities and the one who held the sky off of the earth.

He was one of the gods who protected Ra on his journey through the underworld, using magic spells to ward off Ra's enemy, the water snake-demon Apep. As with other protector gods, he had a darker side - he was also a god of punishment in the land of the dead, leading executioners and torturers to kill off the corrupt souls. His name might be derived from the word for dryness - shu, the root of words such as 'dry', 'parched', 'withered', 'sunlight' and 'empty'. His name could also mean 'He who Rises Up'.

As a god of the wind, the people invoked him to give good wind to the sails of the boats. It was he who was the personification of the cold northern winds; he was the breath of life - the vital principle of all living things. His bones were thought to be clouds. He was also called to 'lift up' the spirits of the dead so that they might rise up to the heavens, known as the 'light land', reached by means of a giant 'ladder' that Shu was thought to hold up.

During his travels through the underworld, he protected Ra from the water snake-demon Apep, with spells to counteract the serpent and his followers. He participated in the judgement of the deceased in the Halls of Ma'ati as the leader of aggressive, punishing beings who were to eliminate the ones not worthy of the afterlife.
Egypt's second divine ruler, Shu was one of the great Ennead. A god of the wind, the atmosphere, the space between the sky and the earth, Shu was the division between day and night, the underworld and the living world. He was a god related to living, allowing life to flourish in Egypt with his breath of life. He was the bridge between life and death, both a protector and a punisher in the afterlife. To the Egyptians, if there was no Shu, there would be no life - Egypt existed thanks to Shu.
 
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why do you trust the egyptian mythology at all?!, the real God had not-in-vain destroyed the spiritual/religious system of ancient egypt with ten plagues - it had been most misleading(full of false prophecies), there had been a very great concentration of satanic angelic activity there, even for the last decades there have been satanic phenomena in egypt, for example: archaeologists that dug ancient egyptian tombs died as a result of powerful curse made a few millennia ago, strange/suspicious gospels (as if written by Jesus' disciples presented in the Bible) appeared in egypt (e.g. in nag hammadi), even a gospel of judas iscariot?!?!

what if we know many things but don't practice the faith in the true One right enough?!, or what can guarantee that we have the true holy spirit in us (albeit in embryo) if we don't practice the faith right enough?!

i don't think that if we don't work for overall salvation in the true One will please Him, if people suffer and die everywhere while we waste our time with vain knowledge

satan is nowhere in the Bible presented as an (ex-)angel or (ex-)cherub of the true God, but he is presented there as a "serpent/dragon" from the beginning, which indicates he is not a creature of the true One, but a manifestation of the "darkness", (if you watched the movie "matrix") he is something like agent smith in the matrix (provided that the matrix represents the "darkness") - it is hard to explain...

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why do you trust the egyptian mythology at all?!, the real God had not-in-vain destroyed the spiritual/religious system of ancient egypt with ten plagues - it had been most misleading(full of false prophecies), there had been a very great concentration of satanic angelic activity there, even for the last decades there have been satanic phenomena in egypt, for example: archaeologists that dug ancient egyptian tombs died as a result of powerful curse made a few millennia ago, strange/suspicious gospels

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To this day, Christian baptism requires a person to solemnly" renounce the devil and all his works" and to accept exorcism. Rereading biblical and extra biblical accounts of angels, I learned first of all what many scholars have pointed out: that while angels often appear in the Hebrew Bible, Satan, along with other fallen angels or demonic beings, is virtually absent.
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I suggest you search for new resources because there is no truth in this.
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The noun satan, Hebrew for “adversary” or “accuser,” occurs nine times in the Hebrew Bible: five times to describe a human military, political or legal opponent, and four times with reference to a divine being. In Numbers 22, the prophet Balaam, hired to curse the Israelites, is stopped by a messenger from Israel’s God YHWH, described as “the satan” acting on God’s behalf. In Job, “the satan” is a member of God’s heavenly council—one of the divine beings, whose role in Job’s story is to be an “accuser,” a status acquired by people in ancient Israel and Mesopotamia for the purposes of particular legal proceedings. In Job’s case, what’s on trial is God’s assertion that Job is completely “blameless and upright” vs. the satan’s contention that Job only behaves himself because God has rewarded him. God argues that Job is rewarded because he is good, and not good because he is rewarded. The satan challenges God to a wager that if everything is taken away from poor Job, he won’t be so good anymore, and God accepts. Though a perception of “the satan” as Satan would make this portrait of God easier to swallow, the story demonstrates otherwise; like Yahweh’s messenger in Numbers 22, this satan acts on YHWH’s instructions (and as a result of God’s braggadocio) and is not an independent force of evil.

In Zechariah 3, the prophet describes a vision of the high priest Joshua standing in a similar divine council, also functioning as a tribunal. Before him stand YHWH’s messenger and the satan, who is there to accuse him. This vision is Zechariah’s way of pronouncing YHWH’s approval of Joshua’s appointment to the high priesthood in the face of adversarial community members, represented by the satan. The messenger rebukes the satan and orders that Joshua’s dirty clothing be replaced, as he promises Joshua continuing access to the divine council. Once again, the satan is not Satan who we read about in the New Testament.

The word satan appears only once without “the” in front of it in the entire Hebrew Bible: in 1 Chronicles 21:1. Is it possible that we finally have Satan here portrayed? 1 Chronicles 21 parallels the story of David’s census in 2 Samuel 24, in which God orders David to “go number Israel and Judah” and then punishes king and kingdom for doing so. The Chronicler changes this story, as he does others, to portray the relationship between God and David as uncompromised; he writes that “a satan stood up against Israel and he provoked David to number Israel” (1 Chronicles 21:6–7; 27:24). Although it is possible to read “Satan” here instead of “a satan” (Hebrew uses neither uppercase letters, nor indefinite articles, e.g., “a”), nothing else in this story or in any texts for another 300 years indicates that the idea of an evil prince of darkness exists in the consciousness of the Israelites."How the Serpent Became Satan - Biblical Archaeology Society

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
 
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Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, (human beings) but against principalities, against powers, against the world rulers of the present darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in (worldy) high places.

What are you trying to pull here?
Re-writing scripture to fit your belief?

For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

Your entire theory is in error when compared to the written Word of God.

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What are you trying to pull here?
Re-writing scripture to fit your belief?

For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

Your entire theory is in error when compared to the written Word of God.
FCJ
the world is evil as are the rules in high places such as the (lowest) of men who steal from widows and rob the poor see Daniel 4:17
 
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the world is evil as are the rules in high places such as the (lowest) of men who steal from widows and rob the poor see Daniel 4:17
Again this is NOT what these scriptures are saying
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Again this is NOT what these scriptures are saying
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Ezek 7:24 I will bring the worst of the heathen... Daniel 4:25 the most High rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whomsoever He will KJV. 1Samuel 2:8 the pillars of the earth are the Lord's...Ps. 12:8 the wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.
 
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Satan is Azazel. The scapegoat upon which all sin is ascribed and shall wander the earth until final judgement (Lev 16). Satan is not Lucifer, Christians who title the Devil/Satan as Lucifer are ascribing to him/it the title of Jesus Christ, the Bright and Morning Star. So don't do that any more.

Satan is the 'flesh', more specifically the sense of self preservation and self importance, not the sense of 'self itself'. It is/was a very important spiritual principal/being (angel) which is responsible for ensuring the continuity of life within the animal kingdom. The 'Abyss' of which he/it is the 'king' is the human imagination from which unclean spirits (ideals) issue forth to be made manifest in this world. The air (aer) of which he/it is 'prince' is the world 'atmosphere' (Webster: the pervading tone or mood of a place, situation, or work of art). Yes, the atmosphere here on earth is ruled by the collective perception of it, by the people of it (duh)...

Read Christ's temptation again. Christ overcame his human ego, AKA the Devil, specifically the senses of self importance and self preservation. He went into the wilderness immediately after the sign appeared at His Baptism and the whole 'accusation' within His psyche was "prove you are the Son of God"—and all of the 'challenges' were of that nature (overcoming the the temptation to satisfy the sense of self importance) and the last temptation was self preservation when the Devil challenges Jesus to take the Kingdom by force rather than by self-sacrifice.

It is your own flesh that accuses you and is your greatest enemy, I always thought this was pretty apparent in the Bible.
 
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  • Satan appears 49x in the Bible.
  • Demons, the offspring of angels appears 45x in the Bible
  • The reason why we find no mention of Fallen Angels is that it is a modern word. In the Bible they are known as the sons of God, chief princes, powers, thrones, dominions, angels that left their former estate, wandering stars, falling stars etc.
Thereis no satan in the Bible. The word has been translated incorrectly and should be rendered adversary. The first appearance of the word in in Numbers, is where the Angel of God stands in the way of Balam's donkey. In the Hebrew Bible there is no mention of a fallen angel or of a devil.
 
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Thereis no satan in the Bible. The word has been translated incorrectly and should be rendered adversary. The first appearance of the word in in Numbers, is where the Angel of God stands in the way of Balam's donkey. In the Hebrew Bible there is no mention of a fallen angel or of a devil.
I agree that the word means adversary. I agree that it is used as adversary for Balaam's donkey. But in other verses it is used preceded by a definite article that reads the adversary. It is not a proper name but it is used, in some cases, to call a particular being in mind without speaking or writing the name.

Revelation 12:9-11 tells us that it is also used as a name for a being. "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothersb]">[b] has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.

Here it is used with the definite article. Literally, "who is called devil and the adversary (satan)".
 
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I agree that the word means adversary. I agree that it is used as adversary for Balaam's donkey. But in other verses it is used preceded by a definite article that reads the adversary. It is not a proper name but it is used, in some cases, to call a particular being in mind without speaking or writing the name. Revelation 12:9-11 tells us that it is also used as a name for a being. "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothersb]">[b] has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. Here it is used with the definite article. Literally, "who is called devil and the adversary (satan)".
You overlooked Rev 4:1 ..come up hither and I will show you things which must be hereafter. rev 1:19 ..things which will be hereafter an Rev 1:1things which must shortly come to pass. You have misquoted 12 :9 it would have had to have happened after the time of John, not before, not in Gen. No satan only a snake like the donkey who spoke in Numbers! And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven which was a song of victory for the overthrow and downfall of Paginism in the Roman Empire for by heaven is meant the empire. The word devil used here signifies an accuser and a false one and is so translated in Tit 2:3. The word used here means an accuser, one who blames another, or charges another with crime. Rev 19:20 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. 20:14 This is the second death.
 
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You overlooked Rev 4:1 ..come up hither and I will show you things which must be hereafter. rev 1:19 ..things which will be hereafter an Rev 1:1things which must shortly come to pass. You have misquoted 12 :9 it would have had to have happened after the time of John, not before, not in Gen. No satan only a snake like the donkey who spoke in Numbers! And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven which was a song of victory for the overthrow and downfall of Paginism in the Roman Empire for by heaven is meant the empire. The word devil used here signifies an accuser and a false one and is so translated in Tit 2:3. The word used here means an accuser, one who blames another, or charges another with crime. Rev 19:20 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. 20:14 This is the second death.

I have no disagreement with you that it is used throughout the Bible in different ways. However I don't see how you can take Revelation 12:9 as anything but a term used to reference a specific being. It literally says that one of the names this being goes by is the adversary with the definite article in place. "The adversary".

I do not understand your reference to Revelation 4, and I quoted Revelation 12 from the ESV, copied and pasted directly so I don't understand your claim that I misquoted it. The bolding was mine but that isn't misquoting. I don't know if you just dislike the ESV translation but I also looked at it in the original Greek and that is exactly how it is used in this verse.
 
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I have no disagreement with you that it is used throughout the Bible in different ways. However I don't see how you can take Revelation 12:9 as anything but a term used to reference a specific being. It literally says that one of the names this being goes by is the adversary with the definite article in place. "The adversary".I do not understand your reference to Revelation 4, and I quoted Revelation 12 from the ESV, copied and pasted directly so I don't understand your claim that I misquoted it. The bolding was mine but that isn't misquoting. I don't know if you just dislike the ESV translation but I also looked at it in the original Greek and that is exactly how it is used in this verse.
The Rev 4 verse says 'THINGS WHICH WILL BE HEREAFTER SO YOU DEVIL COULD NOT BE kcked out of heaven before the time of John. Merrill C Tenney Vol 5 Zondervan Encyclopedia 2010 says without the definite article and used twice, once to Peter in Matthew 16:22 and in Rev 12:9-11. He is called Abaddon and Apollyon which means destroyer- enemy also according to Abott-Smith, Bullinger, and McReynolds
 
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The Rev 4 verse says 'THINGS WHICH WILL BE HEREAFTER SO YOU DEVIL COULD NOT BE kcked out of heaven before the time of John. Merrill C Tenney Vol 5 Zondervan Encyclopedia 2010 says without the definite article and used twice, once to Peter in Matthew 16:22 and in Rev 12:9-11. He is called Abaddon and Apollyon which means destroyer- enemy also according to Abott-Smith, Bullinger, and McReynolds

Right, he is still congregating with the other angels in Job. I don't get your point. Revelation 12:9 unambiguously lists his names, He is called the Devil and "The Adversary". I do not see how Rev 4 changes any of that, and you have only repeated what you said last time, only now in caps, so that still remains a mystery to me.

Your encyclopedia is wrong. Revelation 12:9 has the Definite article. I am looking at the Greek right now. satanas O', O' being the definite article. Devil also has the definite article, which is why you will find devil translated with the definite article in many translations. The translators leave out the definite article for satan here because it is used as a proper name in English unlike devil.

As I said I agree with you that it is used all over the Bible differently. With and without the definite article. None of that changes Revelation 12:9 where it lists one of his names with the definite article. There is no possible way to read Rev 12:9 as anything other than a name for a being. You can list every time it's used in the Bible, but that won't change what is written Rev 12:9
 
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To this day, Christian baptism requires a person to solemnly" renounce the devil and all his works" and to accept exorcism. Rereading biblical and extra biblical accounts of angels, I learned first of all what many scholars have pointed out: that while angels often appear in the Hebrew Bible, Satan, along with other fallen angels or demonic beings, is virtually absent. Source: MY COPY of The Origin of Satan by Elaine Pagels, introduction xvi, Copyright 1995
So why does anyone even want to think there is a supernatural being such as a Satan that can never die and would have to be immortal if he was equal unto the angels and still lives after 6,000 years, when Luke says those that obtain resurrection Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels
Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Where does that leave the Satan Theory?

Every Hebrew word, including names, have a Hebrew meaning. Satan is no different and it means adversary. This can also make it ambiguous specifically in the OT meaning adversary in a general sense and one could argue that it is not specifically referring to one being.

However in the NT it seems to be more specific to a single being. The NT also has further insights on Satan that is unconfirmed in the OT. A lot can still be ambiguous and the word does seem to be thrown around a bit like an expression ("Get behind me Satan") but there are some passages that suggest Satan is more than just an malevolent presence.

Jesus is tempted by Satan in the wilderness (Mar 1:13), he talks of Satan falling from heaven like lightning (Luk 10:18) which is also a testament to Jesus's authority over Satan. The epistles talk of Satan which is dominantly for a non-Jewish context in Greek yet the word "satan", a Hebrew word, is still used so this suggests the word itself is much more specific to a proper name to a single being. In Revelation (12:9, 20:2) Satan is referred to as the "Serpent of old" as well as the "Devil". Revelation also develops this idea as Satan as a cast down star (9:1) Ch 12 shows us that a third of the stars were cast down from Heaven from the result of a battle that took place in Heaven with the Angels.

The OT isn't as clear but the NT, especially Revelation, gives us greater details on who Satan is, that he the leader of the fallen angels cast down from Heaven to earth (not hell). 1 Pet 5:8 speaks of Satan "[roaming] around like a lion roaring seeking someone to devour"
 
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