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I like coming here just to say what is on my heart and mind, for no other reason. People always call me to talk about themselves and all their drama so I used this thread after it had run it's course to just talk and feel like I was being heard....that didn't go well as you saw, people who went overboard, people who hurt, even people who thought I was complaining. Maybe I was complaining but seriously all I was trying to do was just say what was on my heart so that I could feel like I was being heard about something in my life. Nothing more or less.
 
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wish I could find a forum thread that was intellectually stimulating without all the flaming that goes on...argh maybe it is time to leave and not look back.
I remember President George W Bush's comment (when journalists tried to provoke him into making running commentaries about his predecessor's lady friend(s?) ): "I think it's time to (pause) move on..."
 
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I like coming here just to say what is on my heart and mind, for no other reason. People always call me to talk about themselves and all their drama so I used this thread after it had run it's course to just talk and feel like I was being heard....that didn't go well as you saw, people who went overboard...
Yes, well I guess some threads can turn a bit into the Titanic... :)
 
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Yes, well I guess some threads can turn a bit into the Titanic... :)
I always enjoy your posts...here is the thing. Lately it seems like Satan wants to silence me and he is using anyone and everyone that he can to do so. Interestingly enough I am currently studying listening in scripture. With over 1000 passages that tell us to listen, it's a pretty big deal with God that we take time to listen and yet time and time again especially now in my life I am silenced. Even to the point of others close to me noticing that everyone seems to want to silence me.

Even here on this thread, I come to voice frustration and get told that I shouldn't complain. Lol a friend just told me this week that no one knows how bad I am because I never complain...but here, when I voice frustration and move on, it's considered complaining and we aren't suppose to complain.

I was just on a thread in which I said something that should never have been controversial in the first place, I was repeatedly insulted, misrepresented and other nasty things. Eventually I was reported and my post was removed for violation because I said that I thought that maybe I was the problem so I asked my son if I was being clear and he laughed and said, obviously then mocked those that were insulting on the forum for being so obvious about their flaming. when I talked to a mod about it, I was told that since I was the only one who reports that type of flaming they ignore the flaming and that if I didn't want to get off topic (which again is against forum rules) to just leave the thread instead of trying to keep it on topic. Long story short, more attempts to silence me and for what? All because I said that I personally feel that we should always start reading scripture from the standpoint of reading for comprehension before attempting to go deeper as a means of making sure we do not read into it what is not there. Wow, how horrible of a thing to say, right? Read scripture for meaning before trying to read it for anything else.....I mean just my personal belief but you would have thought I was the devil himself the way people treated the comment. I didn't even suggest that they should agree with me and repeatedly told them they could believe whatever they wanted to, that was just my personal belief.

Anyway, now I am turning the corner into complaining which I purpose not to do....just frustrated that even here where I don't care if anyone reads it or not that I am denied a voice. Thanks for always listening Farouk you are a good friend. I don't think I will be around much anymore since the rules of decent debate are being ignored but you have been a good friend none the less.
 
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I always enjoy your posts...here is the thing. Lately it seems like Satan wants to silence me and he is using anyone and everyone that he can to do so. Interestingly enough I am currently studying listening in scripture. With over 1000 passages that tell us to listen, it's a pretty big deal with God that we take time to listen and yet time and time again especially now in my life I am silenced. Even to the point of others close to me noticing that everyone seems to want to silence me.

Even here on this thread, I come to voice frustration and get told that I shouldn't complain. Lol a friend just told me this week that no one knows how bad I am because I never complain...but here, when I voice frustration and move on, it's considered complaining and we aren't suppose to complain.

I was just on a thread in which I said something that should never have been controversial in the first place, I was repeatedly insulted, misrepresented and other nasty things. Eventually I was reported and my post was removed for violation because I said that I thought that maybe I was the problem so I asked my son if I was being clear and he laughed and said, obviously then mocked those that were insulting on the forum for being so obvious about their flaming. when I talked to a mod about it, I was told that since I was the only one who reports that type of flaming they ignore the flaming and that if I didn't want to get off topic (which again is against forum rules) to just leave the thread instead of trying to keep it on topic. Long story short, more attempts to silence me and for what? All because I said that I personally feel that we should always start reading scripture from the standpoint of reading for comprehension before attempting to go deeper as a means of making sure we do not read into it what is not there. Wow, how horrible of a thing to say, right? Read scripture for meaning before trying to read it for anything else.....I mean just my personal belief but you would have thought I was the devil himself the way people treated the comment. I didn't even suggest that they should agree with me and repeatedly told them they could believe whatever they wanted to, that was just my personal belief.

Anyway, now I am turning the corner into complaining which I purpose not to do....just frustrated that even here where I don't care if anyone reads it or not that I am denied a voice. Thanks for always listening Farouk you are a good friend. I don't think I will be around much anymore since the rules of decent debate are being ignored but you have been a good friend none the less.
Prayer and the Scriptures and careful reading are so important; and it's good to encourage others in these activities also. :)
 
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I like coming here just to say what is on my heart and mind, for no other reason. People always call me to talk about themselves and all their drama...
It's good for people to feel that someone is "approachable", anyway... :)
 
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It's good for people to feel that someone is "approachable", anyway... :)
;) I don't usually mind it, in fact, it is sort of my ministry but once in awhile I like to be heard as well. The forum rules are suppose to make sure that happens but the rules are not being enforced...so moving on.
 
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;) I don't usually mind it, in fact, it is sort of my ministry but once in awhile I like to be heard as well. The forum rules are suppose to make sure that happens but the rules are not being enforced...so moving on.
I think you probably end up having a lot of ppl telling you their problems...
 
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I think you probably end up having a lot of ppl telling you their problems...
yeah and my physical condition makes me available pretty much 24/7 which means even more people than usual call me...
 
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I talk to all kinds of people with all kinds of problems and several different beliefs all the time and no one has an issue with anything I say. I come here and I am suppose to believe that because I do not wish to have my words twisted and otherwise mutilated into something offensive to what I said and believe I am somehow the problem and unable to communicate well enough to be understood. In fact, I write for a living and have had many people talk about how gifted of a writer I am, but when someone twists my words and repeatedly ignores corrections and clarifications for pages and pages and days and days, I am somehow the one who cannot communicate and I need to somehow learn how to talk to people without them becoming offended by my words. How does that work?
 
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I talk to all kinds of people with all kinds of problems and several different beliefs all the time and no one has an issue with anything I say. I come here and I am suppose to believe that because I do not wish to have my words twisted and otherwise mutilated into something offensive to what I said and believe I am somehow the problem and unable to communicate well enough to be understood. In fact, I write for a living and have had many people talk about how gifted of a writer I am, but when someone twists my words and repeatedly ignores corrections and clarifications for pages and pages and days and days, I am somehow the one who cannot communicate and I need to somehow learn how to talk to people without them becoming offended by my words. How does that work?
Well, you know the stock question, impossible to answer: "When did you stop beating your wife?"

It seems that some questioners, journalists, etc. will sooner or later plump for the impossible to answer type of question...
 
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Well, you know the stock question, impossible to answer: "When did you stop beating your wife?"

It seems that some questioners, journalists, etc. will sooner or later plump for the impossible to answer type of question...
on these boards it seems to usually be centered around an innocent question that challenges their position beyond what they are comfortable with and thus too prideful to just say, "I don't know" or "maybe maybe not" or some other polite dismissal of the question they don't like. I am all about understanding another pov which believe it or not gets me in the most trouble on these boards.
 
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on these boards it seems to usually be centered around an innocent question that challenges their position beyond what they are comfortable with and thus too prideful to just say, "I don't know" or "maybe maybe not" or some other polite dismissal of the question they don't like. I am all about understanding another pov which believe it or not gets me in the most trouble on these boards.
Sometimes agendas can emerge down the line that were not immediately apparent; but the good faith of the person being questioned or seemingly confided is an important part of interaction, right?
 
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Sometimes agendas can emerge down theyep line that were not immediately apparent; but the good faith of the person being questioned or seemingly confided is an important part of interaction, right?
yep, had a guy PM me and say that I would be reported and the thread shut down because they didn't like the question because they couldn't answer it....sure enough that is what happened. The day I accuse someone of flaming for simply asking me a hard question is the day that I stop being me and you need to start looking for alien abductors because I believe in following truth no matter how difficult it is and I guess the bottom line is that I don't understand people who are content to remain deceived without questioning why.
 
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yep, had a guy PM me and say that I would be reported and the thread shut down because they didn't like the question because they couldn't answer it....sure enough that is what happened. The day I accuse someone of flaming for simply asking me a hard question is the day that I stop being me and you need to start looking for alien abductors because I believe in following truth no matter how difficult it is and I guess the bottom line is that I don't understand people who are content to remain deceived without questioning why.
The Word of God is supposed to search the heart. :)

Isaiah 55 comes to mind...
 
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Well, exactly.
I remember when I was young reading John 15:18-27 it so pierced me that I asked God to so consume and fill me that those that hate Him would hate me for the God they see in me. Little did I know how many people would over the years have a "spiritual" (by their own admission) with me and when they reconciled with God the problem mysteriously went away.
 
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