Discovered quite a few homosexuals in my school

[Tetra]

What can I do to resolve this?

I'm confused, what does this have to do with you?

I'd recommend loving your friends and peers.

 

[SilverBear]

So you compare people commiting unatural sexual acts ,to people who have a different colur of skin etc caused by living under a hot sun .

So is it you can't answer my question or do you just don't want to.

The first shows the state of the 'inner being ' which is poisoned ,

A bit harsh but I agree that anyone who holds such contempt for members of any minority is extremely troubled.

I am no racist ,

I don't believe anyone suggested you were

having loved and taught people from all cultures ,but I am a homophobe now

Homophobia - an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It includes antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and hatred of homosexuals.

I suspect that you have been one for some time

,s the Manifesto is proving to be acted out everywhere in the West and only the spiritually blind refuse to see that .

It was written as a joke and remains one.

 

[SilverBear]

Are we to assume that the OP referred to celibate homosexual persons who don't try to impose their socio-political values upon the people around them?

It seems that it is the author of the OP that wishes to impose socio-political values upon the people around him (her?)

 

[Albion]

It seems that it is the author of the OP that wishes to impose socio-political values upon the people around him (her?)

I don't think so.

 

[Paidiske]

Are we to assume that the OP referred to celibate homosexual persons who don't try to impose their socio-political values upon the people around them?

They're school kids. They're probably still forming their sense of identity in the world and developing their socio-political values. Very few people have all of that worked out in high school.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

They're school kids. They're probably still forming their sense of identity in the world and developing their socio-political values. Very few people have all of that worked out in high school.

The OP is 19. Hardly a "kid".

 

[Paidiske]

He says he's still at school, though. Being 19 in year 12 (last year of high school) is not that unusual here.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

He says he's still at school, though. Being 19 in year 12 (last year of high school) is not that unusual here.

Jonathan Edwards was 19 when he was called to pastor a church in NY.

Being in school does not make one a "kid" without a clue as to political or religious views.

 

[noam burde]

I attend a Christian school over in Sydney, Australia.
In recent weeks, I've discovered quite a few homosexuals (which indeed surprises me for the nature of the school I attend), with one friend being gay himself.

I've felt their overly progressive values are attempting to pull me away from God. I'm a relatively conservative Christian, for those that do not know.
I've tried praying, but nothing is working as of yet.

What can I do to resolve this? As the majority of my year group is quite progressive, I don't want to call them out for being gay or tell them they deserve death as God himself requires, as I'll be labelled a homophobe and lose all of my reputation, a typical thing the left does to silence opposition.

If this is posted in the wrong thread, I apologise, and please relocate it.

one thing you need to do, Is to understand its not their fault that they are gay.
homosexual sex is a sin.
but its not their fault they where born with a wrong attraction.
like you (or me) was born with a problem that you are attracted to all woman. not just your wife. it can be a very big problem. one of the biggest in the world today. but its not your fault.
we have to deal with it.
and they need to deal with a bigger problem that they are attracted to man.
that's too much for most people to deal with.
but maybe some of them choose to avoid acting according to there sexual desire.
are there any like this there?

 

[SilverBear]

I don't think so.

My bad.

Correction:
It seems many of the posters here are the ones that wish to impose socio-political values upon the people around them

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

I attend a Christian school over in Sydney, Australia.

exactly..

 

[Meowzltov]

I attend a Christian school over in Sydney, Australia.
In recent weeks, I've discovered quite a few homosexuals (which indeed surprises me for the nature of the school I attend), with one friend being gay himself.

I've felt their overly progressive values are attempting to pull me away from God. I'm a relatively conservative Christian, for those that do not know.
I've tried praying, but nothing is working as of yet.

What can I do to resolve this? As the majority of my year group is quite progressive, I don't want to call them out for being gay or tell them they deserve death as God himself requires, as I'll be labelled a homophobe and lose all of my reputation, a typical thing the left does to silence opposition.

If this is posted in the wrong thread, I apologise, and please relocate it.

About 2% of the population is completely gay, and a lot more are bisexuals who swing gay. I would be surprised if you said that no one in your school were gay. You probably have a relative or two that are gay or bi too.

Throughout your life, you will be running into people that are gay; coworkers, people at church, friends, mere acquaintances... So it's a very good thing that you are working through these issues now. We are pounded on all sides by progressive values, especially in the media, and since being LGBT means being OUT, we have no choice but to deal with it these days.

So how do we deal with it? Very delicately. We are very tolerant, yet at the same time, we quietly stick to our guns.

Let me ask you some questions.

Do you know anyone at your school who is fornicating? Because that is equally sinful. Or who steals? Gossip is also a sin that will land us in hell.

I guess my point is this. We turn a blind eye to the sin around us because it is ordinary. Homosexuality gets an unfair amount of scorn because it is unusual and so it makes us feel uncomfortable.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Hi the infiltration of post modernism is a tragic reality. These professors are departing from belief in the Bible and then redefining what is inspired and reinterpreting what then should be our values. This is not by accident and the transition is linked with the rise of antichrsit and the forming of a one world government that will have a 7 year reign. The strategy has shifted the core from the cross to the sermon on the mount and reviews those passages to create tolerance and equality as the highest virtues rather than repentance and the blood of Jesus and the Resurrection as the foundation. No one wants to be labelled a hater, or intolerant. We all want to be for equality and being inclusive. With these two mirrors many people have been deceived to endorse a humanist church that as Paul predicted would come .

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

In this verse some have brought up universalism which goes hand in hand with the rainbow flag movement. The Masons at the highest levels 32 33 degree are taught that Lucifer is the great architect of the universe and the light bearer. When you join you role play and they ask you why you are hear. You tell them you are ignorant of truth and have come to seek the light. They then ask you to choose your path to God and present a table filled with holy books from all faiths. You have now denied Jesus claim that he was the way the life and the truth and no one comes to the father but by him. You have claimed to be ignorant and seeking light. If you make it through 32 degrees of this you will be a Luciferian. This is a doctrine of demons and is being unpacked through the interfaith movement which is seeking to unite the faiths of the world.

1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at[fn] His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

As a student be a contrarian and hold fast to the scriptures and remember Jeremiah preached what God said and was greatly opposed by all the rest thrown in a dungeon and his words were not heeded. At the throne of God do you want a full church based on compromise or would you rather have the reward like Jeremiah will for being faithful? Find Bible teachers who oppose post modernism and educate yourself to take a stand against the deceit you are finding start discussions that will lead you to others who feel the same way you do so that you might join together to support one another. There will be many at the great white throne who's names are not written in the Lambs book of life who have thought they were Christians and never really heard the call to repent. Be courageous and uncompromising.

Some have quoted Romans 1 which is a key passage as well and if you look at the whole chapter you will see a clear progression and if you study you can see we have followed this course to get to where you are today.
STAGE 1 Hearts darkened
8 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.


Stage 2 God give them up to their lusts

Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Stage 3 God gave them over to vile passions

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.


Stage 4 debased mind and wrath of God

8 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[fn] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[fn] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

The wrath is extended to those who approve of these things to not just those who practice them.

 

[Albion]

The OP is 19. Hardly a "kid".

...and probably does know better than we do whether or not the atmosphere in his school, the policies of the administration, and the behavior of the students he referred to is intimidating.

All we readers can do is offer suggestions based upon the facts he's told us. And that is what we should do. It's disrespectful to assume for no particular reason that he's completely mistaken, has overreacted, or something like that.

 

[Albion]

In this verse some have brought up universalism which goes hand in hand with the rainbow flag movement. The Masons at the highest levels 32 33 degree are taught that Lucifer is the great architect of the universe and the light bearer. When you join you role play and they ask you why you are hear. You tell them you are ignorant of truth and have come to seek the light. They then ask you to choose your path to God and present a table filled with holy books from all faiths. You have now denied Jesus claim that he was the way the life and the truth and no one comes to the father but by him. You have claimed to be ignorant and seeking light. If you make it through 32 degrees of this you will be a Luciferian.

Is that how it went in your own experience?

If not, this story belongs on the Conspiracy Theories forum along with the 52 versions of who killed JFK and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

...and probably does know better than we do whether or not the atmosphere in his school, the policies of the administration, and the behavior of the students he referred to is intimidating.

All we readers can do is offer suggestions based upon the facts he's told us. And that is what we should do. It's disrespectful to assume for no particular reason that he's completely mistaken, has overreacted, or something like that.

Yes. It's insulting to dismiss his concerns.

 

[eyesspy]

I attend a Christian school over in Sydney, Australia.
In recent weeks, I've discovered quite a few homosexuals (which indeed surprises me for the nature of the school I attend), with one friend being gay himself.

I've felt their overly progressive values are attempting to pull me away from God. I'm a relatively conservative Christian, for those that do not know.
I've tried praying, but nothing is working as of yet.

What can I do to resolve this? As the majority of my year group is quite progressive, I don't want to call them out for being gay or tell them they deserve death as God himself requires, as I'll be labelled a homophobe and lose all of my reputation, a typical thing the left does to silence opposition.

If this is posted in the wrong thread, I apologise, and please relocate it.

Just keep reading the word.

Christians who have managed to reconcile their homosexual feelings with God realise that HE has taken their sin away. They may be able to have a relationship with the opposite sex or they may not. But they have no desire to consumate hell anymore.

Homosexuality is the result of generational curses passed down through spiritual DNA from our fathers and mothers. Today the generations that WE have produced are looking back at us and what have we to say to them. Those murders, jealousies, lies and general hypocrisy have shaped humanity and we wonder why things are the way they are.

So on that note you need to protect your future offspring by not succumbing to the wickedness and errors out there and giving any generaltional curses up to TMH (The Most High)

Real believers of the word can be different from real doers of the word, the world is like that.

 

[eyesspy]

Speaking as a gay Christian, lay congregational leader, and seminarian who is partnered in a civil union, I would recommend being polite, respectful, and considerate of others. Jesus said "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Afford that courtesy and respect to others, and also expect that people are polite and respectful to you. There is no reason for Christians not to be able to have and live in good disagreement while seeking one another's mutual flourishing. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do have to be loving and respectful.

In my ministry context, I pray with and work with people who do not necessarily share my views. Christian congregations, regardless of denomination, have a multitude of opinions and there is a spectrum of acceptance regarding this issue. Part of healthily living with this tension is respecting my peers or colleagues who share views diametrically opposed to my own and mine to theirs. I pray with them and they pray with me. God loves us all in the end.

Christian minister I encourage you in the name of the word. Take your flock and deliver them up. First you must deal with the fact that homosexual sex especially between men is an abomination according tp the word. It is not for another individual to condemn but to speak the truth and it matters only if the admonisher can follow the truth themselves in all other spheres. Can I ask if when you are about to perform that 'act', if you are not conflicted and feel outside of the garden of God after. Because when I sin I get conflicted and feel like a leaf in the wind afterwards. If you feel sanctified and clean after then that to me would suggest that God is bigger than his word.

Some people are consumate liars and to change they need to stop lying
some people like little children in the wrong way...They are required to cease and desist
some people like same sex....should they stop and what exactly is the consequence if they dont?

Just because a elephant thinks its a flower dont make it so

To turn things round the real truth of submitting to our higher nature needs to be taught from the womb. This will happen when the new City rises in the hearts of the 144,000 (the few) and man becomes one with nature once more.

In the meantime sometimes each and everyone of us fall far short from the glory of GOD on the battlefield and we have to pray to be picked up....be careful because when do we become retrobates and unable to eat from the tree of life.

 

[SkyWriting]

A couple of places where your statements are wrong. The Bible has plenty of basis on which to judge sin. It says those who engage in homosexual relations do not inherit the kingdom of God. They can be saved but lose out due to their lifestyle. Do you want that for Raphael to miss out?

Also Jesus did not let her decide what her sin was ... It was incredibly obvious... adultery. That was the whole reason they were all there.

As believers we are allowed to judge the church. If Raphael wasn't a part of the church and actively as he calls it ministering to others then no problem. I have homosexual family members but they are not believers trying to minister to others so why should they behave any other way, they do not have the Lord to be loyal to. But Raphael is different, he has put himself in a lay leadership role within the church, and as such his church is letting him down by allowing him to keep on sinning unrependently whilst 'ministering' to others.His church is letting down those he is ministering to as well as his sin will be affecting them. Jesus said go and sin no more yes but i guess Raphael didnt read that bit or how did you put it.. 'disagreed' with that bit of Jesus teaching so he can find a way to keep on sinning instead of following righteousness.Would you allow that woman caught in adultery to minister in your church if she disagreed with what Jesus said and kept on in her sin of adultery unrepentant? Of course, you would.Others wouldn't.The church is allowed to judge those within it and call a spade a spade.Outside the church different story.

Sin is only for you to decide. Not for anyone else.

James 4:17
So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.


Not one bible passage? I'd think you'd find one.

35 Bible verses about Hell
54 Bible verses about Sin
What Does the Bible Say About Judging Others? - 100 Bible Verses aboutJudging Others

 

[SkyWriting]

First you must deal with the fact that homosexual sex especially between men is an abomination according to the word.

"Abomination" means out of the ordinary. Nothing more.
You may not define sin for others.

James 4:17
So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.