Few Questions??

[Frozenocean]

new here and have some questions about denominations, bible history, just some general newer Christian questions that google can't seem to help with.

Denomination wise:
Never had a denomination really as an adult. As a child southern baptist. Attended a Wesleyan church later, recently went to a Presbyterian church which shunned us from joining once they found out we where not married when our child was born. Major turn off for a re-organized christian. Here are some questions personally about which denomination we might fit best into for anyone willing to give help.
1. To me God The Father, Son, Holy Spirit are 3 different beings/entities.
2. I believe once you are saved you can always loose grace and salvation until once again you whole heartedly and humbly give your life to God.
3. We do not believe women should be leaders of a church. Not a sexist thing that's just how we interpret women's role in the Bible. No arguments needed.
4. The KJV is not the end all correct Bible. Is it accurate sure. But we don't think a church that says the KJV is the only correct bible is true.
5. Elders and deacons and such are fine but modern day prophets are a big no go for us. We put our faith in God. Not dave down the street.
6. Hell is a spiritual place of non believers. I believe that God will save those and all of those who come to him and repent and ask for and seek grace through him.
7. Speaking in tongues. Snakes. Hell fire Brimstone. If I drink 3 beers over the weekend I'm bound for eternal damnation. No thank you.
8. Jesus is Gods son. A spiritual messenger and teacher who performed works and miracles and died for our sins.

So what would we fit into church wise better?

I'll start with this Bible question.
God in genesis has his sons around and lucifer "light bringer" "knowledge" etc is there.....if angels are sons of god would that not make lucifer a son of god?

 

[Albion]

Never had a denomination really as an adult. As a child southern baptist. Attended a Wesleyan church later, recently went to a Presbyterian church which shunned us from joining once they found out we where not married when our child was born. Major turn off for a re-organized christian. Here are some questions personally about which denomination we might fit best into for anyone willing to give help.
1. To me God The Father, Son, Holy Spirit are 3 different beings/entities.

That point alone would confine your choices essentially to the Unitarian Universalist Assn., Quakers, The United Church of Christ (Congregationalists), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons), or some very small religious movements.

2. I believe once you are saved you can always loose grace and salvation until once again you whole heartedly and humbly give your life to God.

Catholics, Methodists, and a number of other churches agree with you there.

3. We do not believe women should be leaders of a church. Not a sexist thing that's just how we interpret women's role in the Bible. No arguments needed.

Scratch the Methodists from your list, unless your conscience is OK with your own particular congregation not having a woman minister although the denomination allows it.

4. The KJV is not the end all correct Bible. Is it accurate sure. But we don't think a church that says the KJV is the only correct bible is true.

Few churches would disagree with that.

5. Elders and deacons and such are fine but modern day prophets are a big no go for us. We put our faith in God. Not dave down the street.

Scratch the Mormons. Otherwise, same reply as given to point 4.

6. Hell is a spiritual place of non believers. I believe that God will save those and all of those who come to him and repent and ask for and seek grace through him.

This could require some explanation. Do you mean non-Christians as well as Christians?

7. Speaking in tongues. Snakes. Hell fire Brimstone. If I drink 3 beers over the weekend I'm bound for eternal damnation. No thank you.

I'll avoid the usual jokes and say that most mainline churches would agree here.

8. Jesus is Gods son. A spiritual messenger and teacher who performed works and miracles and died for our sins.

This point is an amplification of the point made in #1. Scratch the Mormons for sure.

So what would we fit into church wise better?

United Church of Christ (UCC) would be my answer (barely) except for the 'women as church leaders' issue. With that included, however, I'm not sure there is a well-known denomination that fits all the points. If I'm correct about that, you might find a non-denominational congregation that happens to fit, or else you could join a church that doesn't accept all your points but doesn't care very much if you hold to your own views.

 

[Hidden In Him]

new here and have some questions about denominations, bible history, just some general newer Christian questions that google can't seem to help with.

Denomination wise:
Never had a denomination really as an adult. As a child southern baptist. Attended a Wesleyan church later, recently went to a Presbyterian church which shunned us from joining once they found out we where not married when our child was born. Major turn off for a re-organized christian. Here are some questions personally about which denomination we might fit best into for anyone willing to give help.
1. To me God The Father, Son, Holy Spirit are 3 different beings/entities.
2. I believe once you are saved you can always loose grace and salvation until once again you whole heartedly and humbly give your life to God.
3. We do not believe women should be leaders of a church. Not a sexist thing that's just how we interpret women's role in the Bible. No arguments needed.
4. The KJV is not the end all correct Bible. Is it accurate sure. But we don't think a church that says the KJV is the only correct bible is true.
5. Elders and deacons and such are fine but modern day prophets are a big no go for us. We put our faith in God. Not dave down the street.
6. Hell is a spiritual place of non believers. I believe that God will save those and all of those who come to him and repent and ask for and seek grace through him.
7. Speaking in tongues. Snakes. Hell fire Brimstone. If I drink 3 beers over the weekend I'm bound for eternal damnation. No thank you.
8. Jesus is Gods son. A spiritual messenger and teacher who performed works and miracles and died for our sins.

So what would we fit into church wise better?

I'll start with this Bible question.
God in genesis has his sons around and lucifer "light bringer" "knowledge" etc is there.....if angels are sons of god would that not make lucifer a son of god?

That particular list makes you sound almost ... Mormon, with Joseph Smith being the big exception in #5. I would warn against believing in several on your list, but that is your business.

In answer to your question, yes. Lucifer was originally a "son of God," an expression used most specifically of the angels in the Old Testament. But the designation ceased to apply after his fall. More like a once but now disowned an disavowed son of God, technically speaking.

 

[Kenny'sID]

, recently went to a Presbyterian church which shunned us from joining once they found out we where not married when our child was born.

I had no idea any denomination would do that, one reason I don't bother with denomination, and just stick with Bibles rules, and not outlandish interpretations of same. Presbyterians evidently interpret something completely different than I have from the Bible.

 

[Albion]

"Presbyterians" come in many varieties, though, so we don't know too much for certain from this.

If it was a congregation of the Presbyterian Church in America, we'd think it more likely than if it were Presbyterian Church (USA) and certainly more if it were Orthodox Presbyterian Church, for instance.

 

[Sam91]

Have you seen this? I used it lightheartedly but got someone else to do it and they did get different answers.

Christian Denomination Selector, a SelectSmart.com Religion selector. Ask about my top result.

 

[Kenny'sID]

If it was a congregation of the Presbyterian Church in America, we'd think it more likely than if it were Presbyterian Church (USA) and certainly more if it were Orthodox Presbyterian Church, for instance.

Agree, but on that particular Presbyterian Church...yikes.

I'm trying to recall where it's even close to biblical to do that to someone, and for the life of me, I cannot.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Have you seen this? I used it lightheartedly but got someone else to do it and they did get different answers.

Christian Denomination Selector, a SelectSmart.com Religion selector. Ask about my top result.

LOL, I HAVE to try it.

 

[Frozenocean]

Yes they whole heartedly said to us "we did not know your child was born before you where married and quoted scripture from Deuteronomy followed by we will have to ask the elders if you can join or not"

 

[Frozenocean]

Have you seen this? I used it lightheartedly but got someone else to do it and they did get different answers.

Christian Denomination Selector, a SelectSmart.com Religion selector. Ask about my top result.

I took it and it came up with Episcopalian?

 

[Mrs.PGL]

That point alone would confine your choices essentially to the Unitarian Universalist Assn., Quakers, The United Church of Christ (Congregationalists), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons), or some very small religious movements.

Catholics, Methodists, and a number of other churches agree with you there.

Scratch the Methodists from your list, unless your conscience is OK with your own particular congregation not having a woman minister although the denomination allows it.

Few churches would disagree with that.

Scratch the Mormons. Otherwise, same reply as given to point 4.

This could require some explanation. Do you mean non-Christians as well as Christians?

I'll avoid the usual jokes and say that most mainline churches would agree here.

This point is an amplification of the point made in #1. Scratch the Mormons for sure.

United Church of Christ (UCC) would be my answer (barely) except for the 'women as church leaders' issue. With that included, however, I'm not sure there is a well-known denomination that fits all the points. If I'm correct about that, you might find a non-denominational congregation that happens to fit, or else you could join a church that doesn't accept all your points but doesn't care very much if you hold to your own views.

As Christians, we are to allow Christ to mold us to be like Him, not expect Him to be like us. I think you would have difficult with any God-fearing assembly with a few of your points. If you see an assembly you like, speak with the pastor about your issues and he may help you.
Most assemblies can be researched online. Check out the ones in your area.
From our perspective, because it is limited and we don't know everything, there is no perfect church. We are all running the race to attain the prize. You need to find the one closest to what you think and, smile, you go there and learn. God bless you.

 

[Sam91]

I took it and it came up with Episcopalian?

I don't know what that is... here's my results

 

[Sam91]

As Christians, we are to allow Christ to mold us to be like Him, not expect Him to be like us. I think you would have difficult with any God-fearing assembly with a few of your points. If you see an assembly you like, speak with the pastor about your issues and he may help you.
Most assemblies can be researched online. Check out the ones in your area.
From our perspective, because it is limited and we don't know everything, there is no perfect church. We are all running the race to attain the prize. You need to find the one closest to what you think and, smile, you go there and learn. God bless you.

That's what I suggested to my friend today. That she might be better just forgetting her wishlist and just attending one for a while then finding a church if need be.

 

[Albion]

I took it and it came up with Episcopalian?

The Episcopal Church is considered to be liberal, but it is orthodox when it comes to the Trinity...and you rejected that in your very first point and again in the last one. And there are quite a few women priests in that church, too. The head of the whole denomination was a woman bishop until recently. On the other points, this church would be a possibility.

 

[Kenny'sID]

My results:

 

[Sam91]

My results:

And which denomination do you attend?

 

[Kenny'sID]

And which denomination do you attend?

None. Mostly due to situation, but not certain I wold even if the situation allowed.

I consider myself nondenominational, or preferably, just Christian.

 

[RaymondG]

I don't know what that is... here's my results

I got BBC. (Bible Buffet Church) Take the beliefs you want, leave what you dont.

 

[Frozenocean]

I got BBC. (Bible Buffet Church) Take the beliefs you want, leave what you dont.

Yeah just was asking opinions we don't wanna get in a church and not agree with anything they based their denomination on. We are basically looking for a "not to far off" choice we are accepting of most things thank you all for input

 

[Albion]

Frozen...one more thing. Don't forget to take stock of the worship STYLE of the churches, too. You can easily find one that has the right doctrinal profile on paper but that conducts its services in a way that just isn't acceptable to you. There's a lot of distance between Episcopalians, Congregationalists, and Quakers, for instance, but all of them came in for some consideration in our discussion here.