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What Does Atheism Profit Atheists?

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One thing you are failing to see: all the great works of the Renaissance etc. were inspired by this shallow and boring God as you call Him. Do you like the Renaissance works of art. Because if you as an atheist like them, that is the proof that God exists.
The same goes for all teh former Christians turned atheists.

It is more that just-read-it; it is about studying, consulting someone, praying. And the fruits will be there.

No it does not prove God exists any more than liking Norse sagas proves Thor is real or that liking renditions of Unicorns proves they are real.
 
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I'm sure you can imagine why that threat does not affect a non Christian.
I don't think it is originally meant as a threat towards non-Christians. Rather as pep-talk for the own troops... and a warning towards potential leavers. Cult speak, basically.

Of course that doesn't keep certain followes from using it as threats, even if they see it just as "speaking the truth". They feel confirmed if they have someone to look down on.

Nothing says "religion of love" better than calling outsiders wicked sinners who will burn in fiery lakes for doing kind deeds. But after all, this is the religion that tells its followers to love their enemies. Not because of kindness... no, to shame them.

Nice folk. Not wicked at all. The elected of God.
 
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Well, I am enjoying the fact that I argued a point that you haven't been able to refute, and it appears you are essentially conceding the point by refusing to address it.

So yes, it is fun to win a debate.

Not going to answer to pointless demands when I was already very clear. Pretend you're winner if you like, and if that's your idea of fun...well...
 
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And you would be wrong.

Do you justify your unbelief in Enki?

I bet you never even think about it because you in no way take Enki's existence seriously.

An atheist does the same for God.

I see evidence to the contrary. I would never go to a site to argue the existence of Enki, and I seriously doubt most if any atheists would, yet here you are. I've seen for myself what atheists argue against, and I don't recall them once opposing any other than the Christian/Biblical God. Point being, you DO take this God seriously.

Sure, reasons will be made up why you are here, or why you don't take him seriously, but the signs are all there, so that will always be my take, regardless the claims.
 
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Yeah, it is really easy but a lot of people try to make it complicated. For some reason those posters are on a quest to tell non-believers how they are not believing wrong. Doesn't make much sense to me but it seems to keep them busy.

The definition is pretty cut and dried to me, so I honestly don't understand. I've seen this brought up a few times but never read back to try to figure it what is was a bout, but now my curiosity is peaked.

Can you/someone please enlighten me on what some Christians feel being an Atheist means? I mean the odd view some apparently have.
 
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I would never go to a site to argue the existence of Enki, and I seriously doubt most if any atheists would, yet here you are.
I'm not trying to argue the existence of anything. That's the opposite of what I meant (in that atheists don't sit around rejecting God-because they don't believe in him in the first place.

I was arguing that you and I are almost exactly as atheist as each other: I only differ by believing in one god less than you.

I'm sorry if I explained it poorly.
 
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I've seen for myself what atheists argue against, and I don't recall them once opposing any other than the Christian/Biblical God.
There's no point in arguing against Enki on a Christian forum.
 
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Point being, you DO take this God seriously.
I take the belief in God seriously. But if you are saying that I secretly believe in him and am here because I want to attack him you will have to trust me when I say that that is not the case.

You do trust me to be honest with you, don't you?
 
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Can you/someone please enlighten me on what some Christians feel being an Atheist means?
Atheism is an excuse to do what you want without fear of Hell, to be homosexual, to persecute Christians, to usher in Satan's Kingdom, to insult Jesus, to be stupid, to be unregenerated, to destroy America.

Just off the top of my head on the various forums I have engaged with.
 
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Atheism is an excuse to do what you want without fear of Hell, to be homosexual, to persecute Christians, to usher in Satan's Kingdom, to insult Jesus, to be stupid, to be unregenerated, to destroy America.

Just off the top of my head on the various forums I have engaged with.

Ok, I may see the problem. Atheist can be exactly what we defined it as, but the reason for being an Atheist can also be those things you mention in some cases.

They are two different things.

I know this won't be taken well, but I honestly believe this is a created twist Atheists use as a defense. That way it can be claimed a misunderstanding on what an Atheist IS, when in reality it has nothing to do with what they are defined as, but why they choose to go that route..
 
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That´s probably because you don´t promote any other than biblegod.

Then you are saying Atheists do go to other religions sites as often as christian sites to show their disagreement? And that they are as harsh towards other religions in their hearts as they are against the Christian religion?
 
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Then you are saying Atheists do go to other religions sites as often as christian sites to show their disagreement?
No, that´s not what I was saying.
And that they are as harsh towards other religions in their hearts as they are against the Christian religion?
No, I didn´t say anything of that sort. Just read what I wrote. Don´t add anything, don´t superimpose your preconception upon it. Thanks.
 
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Ok, I may see the problem. Atheist can be exactly what we defined it as, but the reason for being an Atheist can also be those things you mention in some cases.

They are two different things.

I know this won't be taken well, but I honestly believe this is a created twist Atheists use as a defense. That way it can be claimed a misunderstanding on what an Atheist IS, when in reality it has nothing to do with what they are defined as, but why they choose to go that route..
Or you could go with that the atheist tells you.

When you ask someone for directions do you automatically disbelieve them?
 
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Then you are saying Atheists do go to other religions sites as often as christian sites to show their disagreement? And that they are as harsh towards other religions in their hearts as they are against the Christian religion?
I'm just as assertive about my position when discussing anything online, be it Christianity, New Agers, wiccans, Scientologist, ufologists, etc.

It's just that here (as opposed to forums you don't go to) you see what I post on the topics this website hosts.
 
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Oh?



On an Enki or any other religion on their website.



That's a good question, and one that passed by me as well, a few times on this thread, and one I honestly cannot answer.
Oh, I see.

I've always accepted what you say as honest.

I thought we at least had common ground in assuming we were both being genuine with each other.

I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I shan't bother you again.
 
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