When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

[Neogaia777]

When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

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[Neogaia777]

Or for that matter when was, (Jesus, God the Son) or did, or he was, or is, or was, or is to become, (possibly again), as great, and equal to, and with, the Father...?

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[tstor]

When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

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This occurred during the incarnation (Philippians 2).

 

[Neogaia777]

This occurred during the incarnation (Philippians 2).

Could you tell me where or how it says that in Philippians 2, maybe...?

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[Quort]

When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

Peace,

God Bless!

Strange question. God the Father and God the Son are eternal. Thus their positions are never as 'becoming'. They are.

Quort

 

[tstor]

Verses 4-8:

Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others. Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. (ESV)
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I have a unitarian discussion of it posted on here. It may help you understand the passage:
Arian vs Socinian interpretation of Philippians 2:5-9

 

[Neogaia777]

Strange question. God the Father and God the Son are eternal. Thus their positions are never as 'becoming'. They are.

Quort

One had to become, at one point, if anything to experience the process of becoming, which is a human trait...

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[Quort]

One had to become, at one point, if anything to experience the process of becoming, which is a human trait...

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Again, the Son always existed with the Father. He never became. Neither did the Father become. Theirs is not a human trait. Thus when the Son took on a human body, that same existance did not change between Him and the Father.

Quort

 

[Neogaia777]

Again, the Son always existed with the Father. He never became. Neither did the Father become. Theirs is not a human trait. Thus when the Son took on a human body, that same existance did not change between Him and the Father.

Quort

I'm just going to politely smile at you, cause I think your just so cute...

Peace,

God Bless!

 

[Quort]

I'm just going to politely smile at you, cause I think your just so cute...

Peace,

God Bless!

Or...because you have nothing else to offer. Smile away.

Quort

 

[tstor]

Or...because you have nothing else to offer. Smile away.

Quort

Your understanding of the trinity is flawed. It is much easier to just not comment on such a large topic than to get overly involved when both people actually agree.

 

[Neogaia777]

Strange question. God the Father and God the Son are eternal. Thus their positions are never as 'becoming'. They are.

Quort

Ok, I'll bite, I'll be your huckleberry...

So, they know, or knew nothing about the process of becoming then...? Or not, am I wrong...?

How could they know anything about the process of becoming if they never had to become...?

Peace,

God Bless!

 

[Quort]

Your understanding of the trinity is flawed. It is much easier to just not comment on such a large topic than to get overly involved when both people actually agree.

Please. If you have something to say...to prove...or disprove, say on. Spare me your otherwise 'unhelpful advice'. It is not wanted, or needed.

Quort

 

[Neogaia777]

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[tstor]

Please. If you have something to say...to prove...or disprove, say on. Spare me your otherwise 'unhelpful advice'. It is not wanted, or needed.

Quort

The OP asked:
When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

Your response was:
God the Father and God the Son are eternal. Thus their positions are never as 'becoming'. They are.

Yet this is fundamentally wrong, as the Son has indeed humbled Himself. He became flesh. (Philippians 2:4-8).

 

[Quort]

Ok, I'll bite, I'll be your huckleberry...

So, they know, or knew nothing about the process of becoming then...? Or not, am I wrong...?

Peace,

God Bless!

Yes, you are wrong. Again, the Father and Son never became. Thus there was no knowledge of their becoming. Such knowledge didn't exist because it never was.

Quort

 

[Quort]

The OP asked:
When did God, the Son, or Christ become "less than" the Father...? (John 10:29, John 14:28)...

Your response was:
God the Father and God the Son are eternal. Thus their positions are never as 'becoming'. They are.

Yet this is fundamentally wrong, as the Son has indeed humbled Himself. He became flesh. (Philippians 2:4-8).

The Father and Son existed eternally before the Son became flesh.

Quort

 

[tstor]

The Father and Son existed eternally before the Son became flesh.

Quort

Yes, but the Son did not have the form of a man for eternity.

 

[Neogaia777]

Yes, you are wrong. Again, the Father and Son never became. Thus there was no knowledge of their becoming. Such knowledge didn't exist because it never was.

Quort

Cryptic, but, OK, I'll let you be, OK...?

I'm not here to argue but to discuss with those willing to discuss this, logically, reasonably...

Peace,

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

The Father and Son existed eternally before the Son became flesh.

Quort

Anything change when he became flesh...?

He himself says (I think) that he had lay aside or lay down his former glory that he had with the Father...? What's in this glory...?

God Bless!