I've been drinking --- So I've got something I want to say.

[MikeK]

To a certain subset of people here disagreement can be qualified as either 'whining' (i.e. factual retorts) or aggression (i.e. calling them out on their nonsense).

Spot on. There are people who /know/ that the stuff they spew is nonsense. Every person on this board has to know that Americans pay far more for healthcare than our healthier peers in countries that have the best socialized healthcare systems and they still pretend like adopting such a system would bankrupt us. They're emotionally invested in a position and have no way to gracefully admit their error, so they accuse their opponents of whining and so on. When I was a younger man I thought it was comical, now I just find the behavior to be sad.

 

[rturner76]

And ill bet you for every one of those examples, there are examples of the opposite. Just not widely publicized and made a huge victimization of.

Here's something that has been publicized, well published I should say. It's a study done by the ACLU doing an assessment of racial disparity in the criminal justice system. Pretty much shows blacks and whites are treated differently at "every stage of the criminal justice system, including stops and searches, arrests, prosecutions and plea negotiations, trials, and sentencing"

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/...achr_racial_disparities_aclu_submission_0.pdf

 

[Sweet Tooth]

Why you yanks are so opposed to universal health care coverage is beyond me. It's insurance. By the time you need it, it's too late. Even a superfit twenty year old can get run over by a bus.

Yeah, I know. Socialism. Yak yak yak. Ooh, you know who else doesn't have comprehensive health insurance? Syria. Afghanistan. India. Good list to be on, guys.

I wonder.

And if we are going to be serious about Universal Health Care, then we need to evaluate how our money is spent. For starters, maybe high time other NATO members chip in more financially instead of relying on the U.S. to just keep pumping money and other things while smirking that we have no universal health care.

I also wonder how Scandinavian countries, and much of Europe feels nowadays.

 

[Sweet Tooth]

Why you yanks are so opposed to universal health care coverage is beyond me. It's insurance. By the time you need it, it's too late. Even a superfit twenty year old can get run over by a bus.

Yeah, I know. Socialism. Yak yak yak. Ooh, you know who else doesn't have comprehensive health insurance? Syria. Afghanistan. India. Good list to be on, guys.

I wonder.

And if we are going to be serious about Universal Health Care, then we need to evaluate how our money is spent. For starters, maybe high time other NATO members chip in more financially instead of relying on the U.S. to just keep pumping money and other things while smirking that we have no universal health care.

I also wonder how Scandinavian countries, and much of Europe feels nowadays.

 

[MikeK]

I wonder.

Lol! Take a look at what the countries with universal health care are paying as a percent of GDP compared to us. Wholesale adoption of /any/ other country's system would save us money.

 

[Sweet Tooth]

Lol! Take a look at what the countries with universal health care are paying as a percent of GDP compared to us. Wholesale adoption of /any/ other country's system would save us money.

Yes, let's in fact take a look.

 

[Sweet Tooth]

Lol! Take a look at what the countries with universal health care are paying as a percent of GDP compared to us. Wholesale adoption of /any/ other country's system would save us money.

Yes, let's in fact take a look.

 

[Antigone]

#TrumpTalkingPoints

I wonder.

And if we are going to be serious about Universal Health Care, then we need to evaluate how our money is spent. For starters, maybe high time other NATO members chip in more financially instead of relying on the U.S. to just keep pumping money and other things while smirking that we have no universal health care.

I also wonder how Scandinavian countries, and much of Europe feels nowadays.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Is this thread about Healthcare or white privilege?

It's like real life. A conversation starts out with a topic and then takes on a life of its own . I find it happens in my everyday conversations as well.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Is this thread about Healthcare or white privilege?

It's like real life. A conversation starts out with a topic and then takes on a life of its own . I find it happens in my everyday conversations as well.

I wonder.

And if we are going to be serious about Universal Health Care, then we need to evaluate how our money is spent. For starters, maybe high time other NATO members chip in more financially instead of relying on the U.S. to just keep pumping money and other things while smirking that we have no universal health care.

I also wonder how Scandinavian countries, and much of Europe feels nowadays.

and remember the good old US of A has the highest obesity rate of any country. Meaning lots of money spent on rampant diabetes, heart disease, and in Obamas America insurance has to pay for rehab for eating disorders, amongst other things that health insurance shouldn't cover. Like massages at Massage Envy. We are also a very violent country so trauma care rates are probably higher than most other countries as well.

 

[Miss Shelby]

dup

 

[Miss Shelby]

nm

 

[Miss Shelby]

Its sad, pathetic even, that so many white people are ashamed of being white.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Dup

 

[Miss Shelby]

Dup

 

[Sweet Tooth]

#TrumpTalkingPoints

Fantastic rebuttal. Another shiner from liberal twitter edge lords.

When someone under Obama's watch said something similar, nobody batted an eye. When Sanders himself expressed similar sentiments, nothing.

Now? #ImWithHer

#StillaSoreLoser

#ClashwithReality

 

[Miss Shelby]

I'm Caucasian and unashamed. I do not find I am or have had any advantage being a single white female.

Just don't put any ads on Craigslist for a roommate

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

Everybody thinks white privilege is sooooo funny. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that it exists because you either get it or you don't.

It's a societal thing not an individual thing. You have white privilege because you're white in America.

Case in point:
We have a poster this board who carries because she's afraid. Fine whatever.

She gets stopped by a cop, says she carrying, shows the gun, the cop and her have a 5 minute conversation about the coolness of gun ownership.

Nice.

2 Miles from where I live a black man and his girlfriend get stopped by a cop. The guy is carrying. So what ? It's a concealed carry state.
Cop sees the guy is strapped, pump in three. With the guy sitting behind the wheel complying with the cops demands.

The difference ?

One person was white the other black. Now people will say, yeah cos but the cop who shot the black guy wasn't white. That's not the point, the point is white people get the benefit of the doubt, always, everywhere. Other people don't, no matter who is doing the doubting.

That's white privileged.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Everybody thinks white privilege is sooooo funny. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that it exists because you either get it or you don't.

It's a societal thing not an individual thing. You have white privilege because you're white in America.

Case in point:
We have a poster this board who carries because she's afraid. Fine whatever.

She gets stopped by a cop, says she carrying, shows the gun, the cop and her have a 5 minute conversation about the coolness of gun ownership.

Nice.

2 Miles from where I live a black man and his girlfriend get stopped by a cop. The guy is carrying. So what ? It's a concealed carry state.
Cop sees the guy is strapped, pump in three. With the guy sitting behind the wheel complying with the cops demands.

The difference ?

One person was white the other black. Now people will say, yeah cos but the cop who shot the black guy wasn't white. That's not the point, the point is white people get the benefit of the doubt, always, everywhere. Other people don't, no matter who is doing the doubting.

That's white privileged.

No one thinks it's funny Charlie. Me especially. I gave an example where a cop let a black woman go because she didn't look like a low life. Just like a cop let Mike go because he didn't look like a lowlife.

 

[rturner76]

It's like real life. A conversation starts out with a topic and then takes on a life of its own . I find it happens in my everyday conversations as well.

and remember the good old US of A has the highest obesity rate of any country. Meaning lots of money spent on rampant diabetes, heart disease, and in Obamas America insurance has to pay for rehab for eating disorders, amongst other things that health insurance shouldn't cover. Like massages at Massage Envy. We are also a very violent country so trauma care rates are probably higher than most other countries as well.

You may not be aware of this but eating disorders are actually medical conditions, not character defects. People don't choose to have mental illness and mental illness can not be cured with sheer will power it must be treated like any other illness that affects your body.

The part of your brain that regulates survival behavior is called the "reward system"
The three primary functions of rewards are their capacity to:

1. produce associative learning (i.e., classical conditioning and operant reinforcement)
2. affect decision-making and induce approach behavior (via the assignment of motivational salience to rewarding stimuli)
3. elicit positive emotions, particularly pleasure.

So activities that are beneficial for the survival of mankind will activate or be activated by the reward center of the brain which releases dopamine. Dopamine causes the feeling of happiness or euphoria.
Addiction weather it be to food, drugs, sex or any other behavior activates the reward center in the brain, triggering a dopamine release. Over time this system is effectively hijacked by the addictive or disordered behavior. The reward center then mistakes the addictive behavior for a behavior that is necessary for the survival of the species ie j.e. the person is signaled to eat, drink, drug, etc in the same manor that they are signaled to breathe, hydrate, eat, sleep, as if survival depends on this activity because according to the reward system it does.

This is why eating disorders and addiction are medical conditions. The brain's neural pathways and chemistry has been altered and must be corrected through a medical intervention.

 

[Greyy]

I wonder.

And if we are going to be serious about Universal Health Care, then we need to evaluate how our money is spent. For starters, maybe high time other NATO members chip in more financially instead of relying on the U.S. to just keep pumping money and other things while smirking that we have no universal health care.

I also wonder how Scandinavian countries, and much of Europe feels nowadays.

You do realize that isn't how NATO works, right?

 

[Greyy]

Why you yanks are so opposed to universal health care coverage is beyond me. It's insurance. By the time you need it, it's too late. Even a superfit twenty year old can get run over by a bus.

Yeah, I know. Socialism. Yak yak yak. Ooh, you know who else doesn't have comprehensive health insurance? Syria. Afghanistan. India. Good list to be on, guys.

The answer is that about 25 years ago, we were moving towards that, to join the rest of the developed world. The insurance industry took out ads and continue a propaganda campaign, more subtle today, to promote an inefficient system that kills Americans and makes them rich.

It wasn't that long ago that the insurance industry blatantly showed ads convincing Americans they were better off with our extremely inefficient system and that we'd go bankrupt.

 

[MikeK]

People of colour aren't profiled. Caucasians aren't privileged. Thugs, both white, black, and brown are profiled. Wealthy Caucasians, Hispanics, and African Americans are privileged. Poor whites are in no way, shape, or form privileged. If you have never been poor you would think you were privileged because you were. It wasn't because you are white. This truly is a lie being told to white people.

Lol. Did you follow the link posted earlier in the thread that detailed studies indicating otherwise?