Bottleneck Theory vs The Flood vs The Tribe of Benjamin

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Which renders your assertion based on speculation meaningless .....

Then tell us how you get something from nothing...

 

[JD16]

Then tell us how you get something from nothing...

As I've said many times, I don't know, and I'm happy to leave it as that,...should science discover it one day, great, if not, I ain't losing sleep over it

 

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If thats the case, then I'm not one of his chosen ones....too bad for me I guess

I don't know if you are of the elect. I only reply to you because you might be and this is Gods way of revealing Himself to you.

The question is simple....where did the stuff of the universe come from if God didn't make it?

 

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Possibly.

How did something self create from nothing?
...and you say "possibly"

 

[JD16]

I don't know if you are of the elect. I only reply to you because you might be and this is Gods way of revealing Himself to you.

The question is simple....where did the stuff of the universe come from if God didn't make it?

And the answer to that is I don't know or particularly care about it,...adding God into the mix just complicates things,...like I said,...which God or Gods and why

 

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It makes no difference to the Lord what you think. I was the last servant to preach the gospel of God during the second witness of the 1,000 year reign of Christ which finally revealed the exact nature of the Tree of Life last December. Now we wait for the day of the Lord to end this temporary generation which is the first resurrection and the second death of the flesh of man.

What are you talking about?

The priests of God are the servants who began testifying to the knowledge of Christ 2,000 years ago starting with Jesus. All those servants who came after also testified during the first witness of the thousand year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20
6: Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.

14: Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire;
15: and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21
1: Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
8: But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

Once again, what you post above hasn't happened.

 

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Of course the day of the Lord hasn't happened yet. We're still here on this earth aren't we? The day of the Lord will destroy EVERYTHING on earth including melting the crust of the earth into a lake of fire.

"melting the crust of the earth into a lake of fire.'...interesting thought....can you present a chapter and verse.

 

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And the answer to that is I don't know or particularly care about it,...adding God into the mix just complicates things,...like I said,...which God or Gods and why

I already told you why...there is a requirement for a self existing being that always was and never wasn't...if there is anything today. Considering you can't self create from nothing.

 

[JD16]

I already told you why...there is a requirement for a self existing being that always was and never wasn't...if there is anything today. Considering you can't self create from nothing.

That's what you said, and I understand where you're coming from, ....but let's suppose you're right,...which God or Gods? And how do we know for sure it can't be advance aliens from another dimension for example? Not that I believe in Aliens mind you

 

[Larniavc]

How did something self create from nothing?
...and you say "possibly"

That's not what you asked.

 

[-57]

That's what you said, and I understand where you're coming from, ....but let's suppose you're right,...which God or Gods? And how do we know for sure it can't be advance aliens from another dimension for example? Not that I believe in Aliens mind you

I would say the god that showed Himself in the Bible is the one and only true God. The exceedingly accuracy of prophecy is one way of knowing the bible contains the truth.
As to Aliens....something had to give their start. I too don't think they exist, but if they did they too would have required a creator.

 

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That's not what you asked.

it was what we were talking about...yoiu can follow the thread back to post 99 and beyond if you like.

 

[Larniavc]

it was what we were talking about...yoiu can follow the thread back to post 99 and beyond if you like.

I was replying to your post to me (115).

If normal conversation is beyond you, that's on you.

 

[JD16]

I would say the god that showed Himself in the Bible is the one and only true God. The exceedingly accuracy of prophecy is one way of knowing the bible contains the truth.
As to Aliens....something had to give their start. I too don't think they exist, but if they did they too would have required a creator.

That is what you believe, but many others believe otherwise and some like me see no reason to believe in any Gods. Who is to say who is right? All we can do now is speculate, until its proven, I choose not to indulge in such ideas

 

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Here's what I posted in this thread; Bottleneck Theory vs The Flood vs The Tribe of Benjamin

That post you responded with "The author of that article is clueless to what the day of the Lord is and what happens on that day."

The article presented the usage of the Day of the Lord and how it is applied in the bible.
The article even says it will also be a time of judgement.....just like you have.....and you consider him as clueless?

 

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That is what you believe, but many others believe otherwise and some like me see no reason to believe in any Gods. Who is to say who is right? All we can do now is speculate, until its proven, I choose not to indulge in such ideas

Yes, I have a belief in God...and thru the bible I can support my belief. It's pretty hard to explain away such scripture as Isaiah 53.

 

[JD16]

Yes, I have a belief in God...and thru the bible I can support my belief. It's pretty hard to explain away such scripture as Isaiah 53.

And people who believe in other religions have their own scriptures to believe in their God or Gods, and some like me see no reason to indulge in such believes

 

[CrystalDragon]

It depends on how we understand those scriptures. Peter said a day is like a thousand years to God. That doesn't sound like peter was looking for the Lords return any time soon.

That was said in 2 Peter, which is suspected to have been written after Peter's life. If I recall correctly, that book says that all the fathers of the church have died, which would include the original Peter. That writer might have pretended to be Peter, it also had the name Peter, but wasn't the Peter we know of.

 

[Larniavc]

it was what we were talking about...yoiu can follow the thread back to post 99 and beyond if you like.

My apologies for my previous reply.

I'm wrangling my 2 year old and his current behaviour is not conducive to serene forum posting.

 

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That was said in 2 Peter, which is suspected to have been written after Peter's life. If I recall correctly, that book says that all the fathers of the church have died, which would include the original Peter. That writer might have pretended to be Peter, it also had the name Peter, but wasn't the Peter we know of.

Do you have a chapter and verse....I think you might be refering to 2 peter 3:5 but can't be sure.