The Seventh Day is the SABBATH of the Lord thy God Exodus 20:10

[BobRyan]

Please read 2Cor 3:7-11. Christians are not under the ritual Sabbath of the 10 commandments.

Please read the Ten Commandments here Exodus 20 and notice that Christians are not supposed to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one never quoted in the NT. Even though Christians are hearing the Gospel "every Sabbath" In Acts 18:4

 

[1stcenturylady]

Please read the Ten Commandments here Exodus 20 and notice that Christians are not supposed to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one never quoted in the NT. Even though Christians are hearing the Gospel "every Sabbath" In Acts 18:4

Bob, do you believe we are under the Old Covenant or the New Covenant? Do you know the difference?

 

[bugkiller]

Please read the Ten Commandments here Exodus 20 and notice that Christians are not supposed to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one never quoted in the NT. Even though Christians are hearing the Gospel "every Sabbath" In Acts 18:4

One should notice the 10 Cs are not addressed to NC Christians.

bugkiller

 

[Ron Gurley]

To the contrary, Jesus the God-Man confirmed all of the BIG 10 in Exodus/elsewhere EXCEPT: "Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy".

Exodus 20:8
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Jesus the Christ, The Divine Messaiah of the NT fulfilled the Mosaic Law of the OT. Jesus QUOTES:

Matthew 12:8[ Lord of the Sabbath ]
For the Son of Man (Jesus) is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Mark 2:28
So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to abolish the (Mosaic) Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

The resurrection of Jesus the Christ, The Divine Messaiah on the morning of the day AFTER the Sabbath on which He died FOR man is now the "celebration"/sacred day for true Christ-followers to gather to worship the TRI-UNE God.

Are Seventh Day Adventists true Christ-followers ? LDS? Any denomination that denies the principles of the Apostle's Creed. "On the 3rd day, He arose from the dead"

 

[bugkiller]

I like what Jesus said in John 16
“These things I have spoken to you so that you may be kept from stumbling. 2 They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God.

Taking up the self persecution complex again?

bugkiller

 

[BobRyan]

Bob, do you believe we are under the Old Covenant or the New Covenant? Do you know the difference?

Let's start by actually quoting the New Covenant -

Like I did so many times here -

Romans 2
26 So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? 27 And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a transgressor of the Law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

Phil 3
3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,

Romans 9
6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants will be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.

Gal 4
28 And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise.


Heb 8
8“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.

Like many other Christians on this board -- I am a New Covenant Christian..

In Gal 1:6-9 there is only ONE Gospel.

The NEW Covenant is that Gospel - it has adoption as children of God, AND forgiveness of sins.

Only ONE Gospel - and that Gospel was "preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8

All God's Children who are adopted into the family of God - born-again believers "know God" - just as Christ points out in John 14.


It is true for believers - for those who are born again.

Matthew 16
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


1 John 2
26 These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you. 27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.

in that example -- Hebrews 8 is an exact quote of Jeremiah 31:31-33

Heb 8
8“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.

So then under the New Covenant - under the ONE Gospel - the LAW of God known to Jeremiah is written on the heart and mind.

No wonder even the majority of pro-sunday scholars admit that the Ten Commandments are included in the still-binding moral law of God.

And notice what Paul says in Ephesians 6:2 - what Law is he quoting??

 

[bugkiller]

Hmm - one would think he would either have sent you to an SDA web site - or to the SDA section of this web site... Curious.

He sent me to the net in general. He knew nothing about his site. It is solely my find.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Thanks, when I get some paper for my printer I'll see what I can print.

That is going to be very expensive.

bugkiller

 

[BobRyan]

To the contrary, Jesus the God-Man confirmed all of the BIG 10 in Exodus/elsewhere EXCEPT: "Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy".

Exodus 20:8
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Jesus the Christ, The Divine Messaiah of the NT fulfilled the Mosaic Law of the OT. Jesus QUOTES:

Matthew 12:8[ Lord of the Sabbath ]
For the Son of Man (Jesus) is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Mark 2:28
So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I came to abolish the (Mosaic) Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

The resurrection of Jesus the Christ, The Divine Messaiah on the morning of the day AFTER the Sabbath on which He died FOR man is now the "celebration"/sacred day for true Christ-followers to gather to worship the TRI-UNE God.

Are Seventh Day Adventists true Christ-followers ? LDS? Any denomination that denies the principles of the Apostle's Creed. "On the 3rd day, He arose from the dead"

In the Bible - the LORD's day is the Bible Sabbath (not week-day-1) - Mark 2:28 the Son of Man is LORD of the Sabbath.

Mark 2:27 "Sabbath was made for mankind" -- are you a member of mankind? I think we all know that you are.

In the Bible we are not to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one of the TEN commandments not quoted at all in the NT.

In the Bible - there "REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
In the Bible "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all MANKIND come before Me to worship" Isaiah 66:23 for all eternity in New Earth.
In the Bible WE Show that we Love God this way 1 John 5:2-3.
In the Bible "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
In the Bible Christian faith "ESTABLISHes the LAW of God" Rom 3:31
In the Bible the "Saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Revelation 14:12

Mark 7:6-13 is how Christ responds to religionists trying to downsize/side-step/tweek... one of the TEN Commandments

No wonder the majority of even your own pro-sunday scholars admit to this obvious fact that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the still-valid moral-law of God.

Not sure that you are posting in objection to any of these texts - you can clarify.

If you think that all these posts in favor of the Bible Sabbath are denying that Jesus was crucified on Friday - rested on Sabbath and was resurrected on week-day-1 you are probably misreading my posts.

 

[bugkiller]

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and he entered,as his custom was, into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up to read. As it is today, but the Sabbath started Friday at evening, and ending Saturday at sunset. Luke 4:16

At the end of the 6th. day, until at end of 7th. day

So... what is your point?

bugkiller

 

[BobRyan]

One should notice the 10 Cs are not addressed to NC Christians.

bugkiller

Until you read the actual New Covenant - from the actual Bible.

 

[bugkiller]

In the Bible - the LORD's day is the Bible Sabbath (not week-day-1) - Mark 2:28 the Son of Man is LORD of the Sabbath.

In the Bible we are not to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one of the TEN commandments not quoted at all in the NT.

In the Bible - there "REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
In the Bible "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all MANKIND come before Me to worship" Isaiah 66:23 for all eternity in New Earth.
In the Bible WE Show that we Love God this way 1 John 5:2-3.
In the Bible "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
In the Bible Christian faith "ESTABLISHes the LAW of God" Rom 3:31
In the Bible the "Saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Revelation 14:12

No wonder the majority of even your own pro-sunday scholars admit to this obvious fact that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the still-valid moral-law of God.

Not sure that you are posting in objection to any of these texts - you can clarify.

If you think that all these posts in favor of the Bible Sabbath are denying that Jesus was crucified on Friday - rested on Sabbath and was resurrected on week-day-1 you are probably misreading my posts.

Still pumping out the same ole half truths and misrepresentations, eh?

Would you care to explain what you mean with any of those passages? Bet not.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Until you read the actual New Covenant - from the actual Bible.

Please point out anything you think I missed. I have already debunked all your repeated doctrinal spam passages with Scripture. Thanks

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Please read the Ten Commandments here Exodus 20 and notice that Christians are not supposed to take God's name in vain - even though that commandment is the only one never quoted in the NT. Even though Christians are hearing the Gospel "every Sabbath" In Acts 18:4

Acts18:4 is not an assembly of Christians. The following text quote proves my point without doubt.

1After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth; 2And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome and came unto them. 3And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. 4And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

5And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ. 6And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. 7And he departed thence, and entered into a certain man's house, named Justus, one that worshipped God, whose house joined hard to the synagogue. 8And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.

bugkiller

 

[Ron Gurley]

error

 

[Ron Gurley]

Luke 22:20 OLD covenant = keep my OT Laws and offer blood sacrifices
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Hebrews 8:13
When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

Hebrews 9:15
For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24
and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

We true Christ-followers now follow the laws, sayings, example, and precepts of Jesus the Christ in the NT, NOT the unconfirmed Mosaic Laws of the OT.

 

[Ron Gurley]

Law (fundamental belief 19)—the Law of God is "embodied in the Ten Commandments", which continue to be binding upon Christians.

Sabbath (fundamental belief 20)—the Sabbath should be observed on the seventh day of the week, specifically, from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.

Conditional immortality (fundamental belief 27)—The wicked will not suffer eternal torment in hell, but instead will be permanently destroyed. (See: Conditional immortality, Annihilationism)

Spirit of Prophecy (fundamental belief 18)—The ministry of Ellen G. White is commonly referred to as the "Spirit of Prophecy" and her writings are considered "a continuing and authoritative source of truth",[27] though ultimately subject to the Bible. (See: Inspiration of Ellen White)


PLEASE PROVIDE SUPPORTING SCRIPTURE !
OR...CONTRARY SCRIPTURE!

 

[BobRyan]

Acts18:4 is not an assembly of Christians.

In the actual Bible - we have this --

4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Instead of 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and did not persuade either Jews or Greeks to accept Christianity.

 

[klutedavid]

Hello Ron.

You quoted the following verse and such an important verse.

2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Not of the letter, meaning not of the written law, but of the Spirit. The written law kills, but only the Spirit grants life.

 

[bugkiller]

Let's start by actually quoting the New Covenant -

Like I did so many times here -



in that example -- Hebrews 8 is an exact quote of Jeremiah 31:31-33

Heb 8
8“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.

You are promoting only Israeli are subject to this covenant which goes directly against the evidence recorded in Acts to Peter's amazement.

So then under the New Covenant - under the ONE Gospel - the LAW of God known to Jeremiah is written on the heart and mind.

Bob you quoted v 9 and missed it or threw it out.

No wonder even the majority of pro-sunday scholars admit that the Ten Commandments are included in the still-binding moral law of God.

Not a single one of these people you call pro Sunday scholars teach or practice the 7th day Sabbath. Even your sources provide such evidence.

bugkiller