Speed of light

[juvenissun]

The other day my husband was trying to remember the formula for working out something like velocity or acceleration over a certain distance at so many miles per hour (or something like that) re a particular motor-bike.

Anyhow, it made me wonder about the speed of light. My question is, is the speed of light constant, or does it accelerate.
For example when light comes from the sun, as it is 'ejected' so to speak, does it gather speed until it reaches a constant?
Also when light hits something and maybe is absorbed or rebounds somewhat, does that slow it down?

Sorry, I'm sure this is a very simplistic question and absolutely shows my lack of knowledge of these things...I'm not even posing the question in the right terms, probably, but I hope you understand what I'm querying.

I was taught that light has a maximum speed.
But I sort of know the speed of light can be reduced.

 

[toLiJC]

Not unless they are going to mess with the other physical constants which determine its speed, and it would be extremely bad news for us if they did.

what if some angels have projected/materialized some scenes of supernova and other cosmic phenomena, even without there actually being such real physical phenomena there (in those places of the cosmos)?!, and if they have been able to accelerate the speed of light of those phenomena(projections/materializations) to zero time?!, who would notice/see that it is an illusion?!

Blessings

 

[lesliedellow]

what if some angels have projected/materialized some scenes of supernova and other cosmic phenomena, even without there actually being such real physical phenomena there (in those places of the cosmos)?!, and if they have been able to accelerate the speed of light of those phenomena(projections/materializations) to zero time?!, who would notice/see that it is an illusion?!

Blessings

What if the Moon was made of green cheese, and the Sun was a giant electric fire.

 

[StarTemple]

The other day my husband was trying to remember the formula for working out something like velocity or acceleration over a certain distance at so many miles per hour (or something like that) re a particular motor-bike.

Anyhow, it made me wonder about the speed of light. My question is, is the speed of light constant, or does it accelerate.
For example when light comes from the sun, as it is 'ejected' so to speak, does it gather speed until it reaches a constant?
Also when light hits something and maybe is absorbed or rebounds somewhat, does that slow it down?

Sorry, I'm sure this is a very simplistic question and absolutely shows my lack of knowledge of these things...I'm not even posing the question in the right terms, probably, but I hope you understand what I'm querying.

Human science is severly limited, recall. So the so-called "speed of light" is not constant, it is not a limit to angels, etc, and entropy is messed up (base new energy can indeed be "created" for example) as well which all leads to keeping humans under control of the rebel angel group. (Genesis 6; Jude 1:6)

When Christ comes gravity will become a friend rather than an energy eating enemy. Other physics will also be realigned accordingly. Today's sciences will be reviewed later for comic relief. You don't need planes, earthmovers, cars, doctors, grave yards, phones, computers and things like that in the next, you can do it ALL with your mind and various divine "energy" commands. This world will seem as a joke, day one.

FAITH is all that matters. (Revelation 14:12)

One of the fundamental problems with human sciences is rigidity of synergy and assuming it is a "closed system" when it is very "open" in reality. Not to mention the liar mankind has for a "teacher". Genesis 3:17 Take the human sciences with a handful of salt.

 

[lesliedellow]

Human science is severly limited, recall. So the so-called "speed of light" is not constant, it is not a limit to angels, etc, and entropy is messed up (base new energy can indeed be "created" for example) as well which all leads to keeping humans under control of the rebel angel group. (Genesis 6; Jude 1:6)

When Christ comes gravity will become a friend rather than an energy eating enemy. Other physics will also be realigned accordingly. Today's sciences will be reviewed later for comic relief. You don't need planes, earthmovers, cars, doctors, grave yards, phones, computers and things like that in the next, you can do it ALL with your mind and various divine "energy" commands. This world will seem as a joke, day one.

FAITH is all that matters. (Revelation 14:12)

One of the fundamental problems with human sciences is rigidity of synergy and assuming it is a "closed system" when it is very "open" in reality. Not to mention the liar mankind has for a "teacher". Genesis 3:17 Take the human sciences with a handful of salt.

What a lot of unmitigated hogwash.

Gravity is what keeps you on the face of the Earth, instead of being launched into space by the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation. It is also what ensures that the Earth has an atmosphere for you to breath.

 

[StarTemple]

What a lot of unmitigated hogwash.

Gravity is what keeps you on the face of the Earth, instead of being launched into space by the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation. It is also what ensures that the Earth has an atmosphere for you to breath.

Well, Jesus walked on water. Think about it. They considered him the master of hogwash in his day. But, we are still considering him.

Gravity can be made useful for some of the other things it now limits. But, not for this world. True, it is useful for some things now, for other things it is a big drag so to speak. LOL

It's an "open" universal system.

 

[toLiJC]

What if the Moon was made of green cheese, and the Sun was a giant electric fire.

maybe we would go to mine lunar cheese with space shuttles and lunar modules and make power lines of inexhaustible electricity from sun to earth

Blessings

 

[timewerx]

Don't understand how that would explain the well documented visible red shift - Galaxies moving away from us. Wouldn't that ignore the doppler effect we have been able to detect. New and imaginative theories shouldn't ignore the evidences that have already been established. Rule #1 don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

There were scientists who found out the red shifts are varying at "discreet" levels.

That means if red-shifting is true, distant galaxies are flying away at accurately predetermined speeds which would be impossible given their random nature.

The new finding is also telling that distant galaxies are behaving like "quantum objects" which is impossible because quantum effects only manifest on subatomic particles....

I have a rather disturbing theory based on those findings that our entire Universe maybe a subatomic particle inside another Universe which is also in turn, and so on and so forth....

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

There were scientists who found out the red shifts are varying at "discreet" levels.

That means if red-shifting is true, distant galaxies are flying away at accurately predetermined speeds which would be impossible given their random nature.

Citation?
I'm aware that the estimated velocity is strictly proportional to distance (on cosmological scales), but I'd be interested to hear about 'discrete' (not 'discreet', btw) red shifts.

The new finding is also telling that distant galaxies are behaving like "quantum objects" which is impossible because quantum effects only manifest on subatomic particles....

Galaxies are quantum objects; it's just that quantum effects for macro objects 'average out' to a more classical behaviour. Again, I'd be interested in the citation for this.

 

[paul becke]

Tansy, quantum mechanics has shown time to be a function of the individual's mind, consciousness, as also, indeed, the whole material world.

'I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.' - Max Planck, the proto-pioneer of quantum mechanics.

 

[lesliedellow]

Tansy, quantum mechanics has shown time to be a function of the individual's mind, consciousness, as also, indeed, the whole material world.

Rubbish. Nobody takes Wigner's interpretation of quantum mechanics seriously today. Not that it ever had a very wide audience.

 

[paul becke]

Tansy, quantum mechanics has shown time to be a function of the individual's mind, consciousness, as also, indeed, the whole material world.

'I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.' - Max Planck, the proto-pioneer of quantum mechanics.

You know ... the mind experiment of a man travelling in a space-ship, at a speed faster than the speed of light for such and such a time, and finding that he had aged grown older at an accelerated rate.

 

[lesliedellow]

You know ... the mind experiment of a man travelling in a space-ship, at a speed faster than the speed of light for such and such a time, and finding that he had aged grown older at an accelerated rate.

If you could travel faster than light, you would catch up with the light which was being emitted when you were ten years old, and you could watch yourself celebrating your tennth birthday party. Some time later, you would catch up with light which was being emitted when youu were born, and you would witness your own birth. In other words, the flow of time would go into reverse.

 

[paul becke]

Rubbish. Nobody takes Wigner's interpretation of quantum mechanics seriously today. Not that it ever had a very wide audience.

It's you who seem to be the loony-toons, here. You shouldn't be so gullible, just following the crowd. Of course, it didn't have a very wide audience. Even in Einstein's day, the scientific Establishment was atheist. Einstein seemed to have some difficulty concealing his contempt for its myrmidons.

Aren't you aware of the farcical metaphysical limitations of materialism - still, the dominant paradigm - never mind its inevitable sterility ? QM itself refutes it in spades. They are parasites battening on the profound insights of the reall scientists, such as Wigner. Most of our industrial production depends on QM, but they have to try, inevitably vainly, to metaphysically fit classical mechanistic physics over it. How could an educated, putative scientist, be such a dolt as to imagine - never mind voice aloud - that matter produces mind !

 

[paul becke]

If you could travel faster than light, you would catch up with the light which was being emitted when you were ten years old, and you could watch yourself celebrating your tennth birthday party. Some time later, you would catch up with light which was being emitted when youu were born, and you would witness your own birth. In other words, the flow of time would go into reverse.

Yes, that's part of the same scenario Einstein discovered by Einstein.

 

[lesliedellow]

It's you who seem to be the loony-toons, here. You shouldn't be so gullible, just following the crowd. Of course, it didn't have a very wide audience. Even in Einstein's day, the scientific Establishment was atheist. Einstein seemed to have some difficulty concealing his contempt for its myrmidons.

Aren't you aware of the farcical metaphysical limitations of materialism - still, the dominant paradigm - never mind its inevitable sterility ? QM itself refutes it in spades. They are parasites battening on the profound insights of the reall scientists, such as Wigner. Most of our industrial production depends on QM, but they have to try, inevitably vainly, to metaphysically fit classical mechanistic physics over it. How could an educated, putative scientist, be such a dolt as to imagine - never voice aloud - that matter produces mind !

Even if it is the case that consciousness cannot be accounted for in terms of energy and matter, that still does not excuse the nonsense which gets talked about quantum mechanics. Newtonian mechanics gets used for the very good reason that is an excellent approximation to quantum mechanics in the everyday world, and the mathematics is a whole lot simpler.

 

[timewerx]

Citation?
I'm aware that the estimated velocity is strictly proportional to distance (on cosmological scales), but I'd be interested to hear about 'discrete' (not 'discreet', btw) red shifts.

Galaxies are quantum objects; it's just that quantum effects for macro objects 'average out' to a more classical behaviour. Again, I'd be interested in the citation for this.

Sorry I couldn't find the much longer article I read before but here's one example:

Quantized Galaxy Redshifts

If you have time, you can google for keywords: galaxy redshift quantized discrete.

It is my opinion that galaxies would behave exactly like a quantum object or subatomic particle from a "far removed frame of reference" like an observer far outside our Universe and its effects.

The huge gap makes time meaningless between two observation points. And we might as well appear and behave exactly like subatomic or exotic particles from someone far out side our Universe.

 

[loveofourlord]

I think the speed of light is always constant no matter where, what can happen though is that the path light takes is no longer straight so appears to be slower.

 

[loveofourlord]

Time as an illusion runs foul of the fact that you can invariably remember yesterday, and, just as invariably, you can't remember tomorrow.

that doesn't mean time is real, all you've done is gained memory engrams of past states, doesn't mean there is some place those events happened that you can still go back too. I think time is a illusion, and it's just that we acumulate memories of previous uniersal states that create the illusion of a past.

 

[lesliedellow]

that doesn't mean time is real, all you've done is gained memory engrams of past states,

Past states, eh? And time is an illusion?