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Praying for His Firm and Steady guidance in anyone's life that they may live in His Peace.The God of Israel is Christ, God, the Son, while the God who has not and cannot be seen (except by and in and through the Son) is The Father God, is how I interpret that...
It's really not that complicated, their is only two possibilities, well, three, either The God of The OT was not 100% fully omniscient, but near to it, in which case it would be God, the Son... Or, he was 100% fully omniscient and was possibly the Father or The Son, or both, or all three....
And the third, if He was fully omniscient, then "why" does it seem that he might not have been, if he was...
No need to get all "theological" about it...
God Bless!
Want to say when I rely solely on my own reading and thoughts it is always much more difficult to understand. It is also more difficult when I had doubts or no firm convictions about some very basic points to ground my ability to read and comprehend without placing doubts on what little conviction I may have had about say, the Trinity for example. I had no real understanding or firm conviction on what One in Being and Three Persons meant - just some vague consent and concept of some words we might repeat in Church or often hear, which was me for most of my Christian life. So my ability to read and understand the Bible or someone's teachings on it was either confounded or unnecessarily complicated because the range of possible understandings quickly seems without limit.
Even now, when I do read something about or concerning Christian faith, whether it is Sacred Scripture or not and I start to feel like the Eunuch on the side of road I treat that moment like "how can I understand unless someone guides me". Turning to an internet forum to ask for that understanding would not be first choice. Especially when I am asking a group of people where the foundation element of their faith range greatly within the group and differ from my own. I would not expect to gain anything as far as my confusion over a way to view particular verses from relying on such a group of people. Even less so when my own mental capacity is at a point where I am suspect of it as well. So like the Eunuch I would appeal to someone who I trust does or should know to guide me. For a Catholic my resources in that regard are vast and my trust in that is a part of my faith. Other faiths have such resources as well.
So my advice, not that advice was actually what the OP sought, would be to at least stick to asking people one actually knew and felt trustworthy and whose foundation in something as fundamental as the Trinity is at least agreeable to one's own view, if indeed one has a firm view. If no firm view of the Trinity is absolutely held, then the problem is not with understanding these verses. The problem is not being able to frame those verses within a consistent, much less solid theological view that can be as fluid as the imagination.
One Being, Three Persons for example, does not mean three minds. So the idea one Person could be limited in Knowledge compared to another is perhaps a thought, but not one consistent with the idea of One Mind. Then when ask in what manner can a man that we say is also God, be said to not Know something, what are the possible understandings of that. Well, if we are solid on the idea He is both God and man, the idea that Person is not of One Mind and therefore full Knowledge is indeed a thought, but not one that is consistent with One Mind. That does not mean we can not imagine that thought, just that we have to reject that possibility as being inconsistent with our other beliefs about God.
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