dinosaurs lived with man proof academic books

[USincognito]

Second, fossil stegosaurs have been found only in Upper Jurassic and Lower Cretaceous rocks (see Stegosaurus - Wikipedia and Wuerhosaurus - Wikipedia). If stegosaurs didn't die out during the Early Cretaceous but survived until 800 years ago, why are there no fossil stegosaurs from Upper Cretaceous, Paleogene, Neogene and Pleistocene rocks.

I made this meme a while back.

 

[USincognito]

That could be monkey hair

Neither of those are monkeys.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Please, do go on. What "assumptions" is he making?

'The spines could just as easily be leaves. Well not just as easily- a lot more easily.' - This assumptive and exaggerated statement attached to a suggestion is designed to lead the reader. It would be over ruled in court.

'This temple in particular, Ta Prohm, has seen plenty of use by movie crews, and they have been known to alter the temple in unsavory ways against their contract.' - This has no citation to support its assumptive statement. It's mere hearsay.

 

[USincognito]

It was only through research into the evidence for and against that I came to the understanding that they did co-exist.

Everyone who has studied the actual scientific evidence knows that humans and dinosaurs have coexisted the entirety of the time humans have been on earth. It's just that those dinosaurs have all been birds.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Neither of those are monkeys.

Apes then. grrrr

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Everyone who has studied the actual scientific evidence knows that humans and dinosaurs have coexisted the entirety of the time humans have been on earth. It's just that those dinosaurs have all been birds.

Everyone! That's just not true.

 

[USincognito]

What horns? There are only two horns on the rhino, one above the nose, the other above and between the eyes... not on the sculpture.

There are two protuberances on the top of the head of the carved figure. If one looks honestly at the them and the ears on the Sumatran rhino, one sees they are identical and clearly the carving is a Sumatran rhino.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Everyone! That's just not true.

"Everyone who has studied".

 

[Guide To The Bible]

"Everyone who has studied".

Even a baby studies:

Studied

(of a quality or result) achieved or maintained by careful and deliberate effort.

"he treated them with studied politeness"

 

[USincognito]

And if you did some actual research of the creationists sites...

I love when Creationists assume that we have never looked at the content of professional Creationist sites. It's almost as if they assume that if we had, we'd have realized our error and become YEC too.

(I personally like Institute for Creation Research and Creation Ministries International) you might find some surprising work done on radiometricly dating techniques, showing they are deficient, tree ring dating, ice core dating, anomalous fossil finds, a different theory of cave formations, why abiogenesis is impossible, etc.

There is very little, if any, research being done by professional Creationist organizations. For the most part they just read science journals and then try to spin the content of papers and articles to their favor. Most of the pieces on their sites are written by people that have no expertise in the area. Sarfati is a chemist, but pens polemics about everything from geology to genetics.

 

[USincognito]

'The spines could just as easily be leaves. Well not just as easily- a lot more easily.' - This assumptive and exaggerated statement attached to a suggestion is designed to lead the reader. It would be over ruled in court.

Pshaw! There are three different pieces of evidence that the being depicted is a Sumatran rhino - the fat snout, the external ears and the lack of spikes on the tail. The only evidence that the stegosaur supporters have is the supposed back plates but, if the rhino was being depicted in it's natural environment - the jungle - the supposed back plates would represent leaves.

It's less an assumption than an evidence based conclusion.

'This temple in particular, Ta Prohm, has seen plenty of use by movie crews, and they have been known to alter the temple in unsavory ways against their contract.' - This has no citation to support its assumptive statement. It's mere hearsay.

I'll give you this one.

 

[USincognito]

Everyone! That's just not true.

I did not say "everyone" in a vacuum. I specifically referred to everyone who has studied the actual evidence. That too might be a bit hyperbolic, but it's specifically hyperbolic instead of generally hyperbolic.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Even a baby studies:

Studied

(of a quality or result) achieved or maintained by careful and deliberate effort.

"he treated them with studied politeness"

... really? You're trying to pull the 'dictionary definition' card on a word that is in common usage and has a commonly understood definition?

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Pshaw! There are three different pieces of evidence that the being depicted is a Sumatran rhino - the fat snout, the external ears and the lack of spikes on the tail. The only evidence that the stegosaur supporters have is the supposed back plates but, if the rhino was being depicted in it's natural environment - the jungle - the supposed back plates would represent leaves.

It's less an assumption than an evidence based conclusion.



I'll give you this one.

Funny place for all those leaves to be carved like that. They're too regularly placed along its back to be assumed to be leaves. If the artist wanted to depict leaves they could have made them look more like leaves and in a more random and spaced out pattern like how leaves in a real jungle look.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Funny place for all those leaves to be carved like that. They're too regularly placed along its back to be assumed to be leaves. If the artist wanted to depict leaves they could have made them look more like leaves and in a more random and spaced out pattern like how leaves in a real jungle.

Have you ever been in a jungle?

 

[Guide To The Bible]

I did not say "everyone" in a vacuum. I specifically referred to everyone who has studied the actual evidence. That too might be a bit hyperbolic, but it's specifically hyperbolic instead of generally hyperbolic.

Well as i said to 'Warden-of-the-storm' even a baby studies, but to not be exaggerating, what i mean is that study is a subjective term and i for one have studied and believe that humans and dinosaurs have coexisted.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Have you ever been in a jungle?

Yes, and besides I've watch jungle book

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes, and besides I've watch jungle book

Then you'll know that there are leaves in the jungle that are evenly spaced, or close to evenly spaced. They're called 'flowers'.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Then you'll know that there are leaves in the jungle that are evenly spaced, or close to evenly spaced. They're called 'flowers'.

Those leave don't look like they're part of a flower to me, imo.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Those leave don't look like they're part of a flower to me, imo.

That was just me trying to tell a bad joke.