My Stupid Challenge

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Versus time divided into BC/AD, millions of churches, songs, hymns, carols, holidays, symbols on (your?) flags, iconography, artwork, slogans, debates, organizations, schools, hospitals, debate teams, testimonies, anecdotes, books, the Bible, and martyrs?

And this is evidence for Adam... how exactly?

 

[miknik5]

Yes, I know what Adam means. But that fact is not what AV1611VET is using. He using the claim that the Adam mentioned in the Bible was a being called Adam.

And. That is the issue?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Can't do it

Why not?

Don't you understand the points being raised? Because I'll be more then happy to help you along if that is the case...

Look, it's one thing to not believe/accept evolution... But it's an entirely different thing to not even understand what the model is about.

It should be rather obvious to you that it isn't a particularly honest position to simply deny/reject/dissmiss a scientific theory while actually having no idea at all what the theory is about, right?

When you aks questions like "who was the first human?" it is instantly clear that you don't understand what the theory is about. Because understanding even only the basics of the basics, should already make it very clear that the question is invalid.

So that was what my post was about... to try and explain to you how that question is invalid. You don't have to agree with evolution to agree with the points being raised.

Regardless of what position you wish to take when it comes to the accuracy of evolution... you wouldn't want to argue strawmen and misrepresentations in a discussion about the topic, right?

If it doesn't interest you at all, fine... But then what are you doing in this topic?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And. That is the issue?

Yes, that is the issue.

 

[miknik5]

And this is evidence for Adam... how exactly?

Because the TESTIMONY of GOD of which many of HIS WITNESSES continue to testify to is TRUE and TRUTH

 

[miknik5]

Yes, that is the issue.

I'm sorry it remains the issue and the divider between the two...,.,men(as if there were and should be....two)

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because the TESTIMONY of GOD of which many of HIS WITNESSES continue to testify to

You seem to be reading an entirely different question to the one I asked. I asked for evidence of Adam. EVIDENCE, not claims. EVIDENCE.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm sorry it remains the issue and the divider between the two...,.,men

No it doesn't. The issue is that AV1611VET is treating Adam as an actual living person who existed. And that's what I'm asking evidence for.

 

[miknik5]

Because the TESTIMONY of GOD of which many of HIS WITNESSES continue to testify to is TRUE and TRUTH

You seem to be reading an entirely different question to the one I asked. I asked for evidence of Adam. EVIDENCE, not claims. EVIDENCE.

You will get your evidence

The witnesses will testify
You just don't believe them

But this does nothing to change what is TRUE and TRUTH

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You will get your evidence

The witnesses will testify
You just don't believe them

But this does nothing to change what is TRUE and TRUTH

You do not understand what evidence is, do you?

 

[miknik5]

In the end you will get your evidence of THE TRUTH

Try to come to the knowledge of THE TRUTH now

While it is still the year of HIS FAVOR

 

[miknik5]

You do not understand what evidence is, do you?

I do. I have SEEN the evidence

You haven't and because you don't believe and because it isn't anything you can do to validate based on any manmade efforts, practices, steps, you can't "see"

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

In the end you will get your evidence of THE TRUTH

Try to come to the knowledge of THE TRUTH now

While it is still the year of HIS FAVOR

So you don't have any actual evidence then. You should have just said so.

 

[miknik5]

CHRIST spoke about this when HE said "in them is the prophecy of Isaiah fulfilled"

Sir
No one can "see" THE KINGDOM of GOD unless they are born again

What is hidden from fleshly eyes can only be seen if GOD opens the (eyes and ears of the) heart to THE TRUTH of HIS WORD

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I do. I have SEEN the evidence

You haven't and because you don't believe and because it isn't anything you can do to validate based on any manmade efforts, practices, steps, you can't "see"

This isn't about belief! This is about evidence. If something existed, then it leaves evidence. If there is no evidence of something then that something did not exist.
There is evidence of Charles Darwin = he existed.
There is no evidence of Adam = he did not exist.

 

[miknik5]

So you don't have any actual evidence then. You should have just said so.

I can't say so because I told you I do have the evidence

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

CHRIST spoke about this when HE said "in them is the prophecy of Isaiah fulfilled"

Sir
No one can "see" THE KINGDOM of GOD unless they are born again

What is hidden from fleshly eyes can only be seen if GOD opens the (eyes and ears of the) heart to THE TRUTH of HIS WORD

This not about the Kingdom of God. I am asking about evidence for Adam. Do you have any: yes or no?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I can't say so because I told you I do have the evidence

But you have not presented any.

 

[miknik5]

This isn't about belief! This is about evidence. If something existed, then it leaves evidence. If there is no evidence of something then that something did not exist.
There is evidence of Charles Darwin = he existed.
There is no evidence of Adam = he did not exist.

This isn't about belief or religion either sir. It is about THE TRUTH of GOD

And the TRUTH that HE is SOVEREIGN over all temporal "belief systems"

Really there is only ONE ETERNAL TRUTH to whom all men are called to look to

(For that is the will and work of GOD as explained in John 6)


That is CHRIST

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This isn't about belief or religion either sir. It is about THE TRUTH of GOD

And the TRUTH that HE is SOVEREIGN over all "belief systems"

Really there is only ONE TRUTH to whom all men are called to look to


And that is CHRIST

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOD. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EVIDENCE FOR ADAM. HOW ARE YOU NOT GETTING THIS?