How can the grace of God be resisted by some yet received by others?

[MennoSota]

No.

But God is inside of time as we experience it and outside of time as we experience it.
Just as I said.

I did not say that I experienced anything outside of time.

I said that God experienced things outside of the way I experience time.

The reason that I used the term "as we experience it is because God does indeed have a concept of time outside of the space/time continuum.

There is an element of time in Heaven where God has His throne as evidenced by the events that happen one after another from music to flying to and fro.

There is also an element of time in God's experience of eternity in that He promised to do things that are yet to happen - and He did that before the creation of space/time.

Do you happen to have an extra Flux capacitor? [emoji41]

 

[Marvin Knox]

Do you happen to have an extra Flux capacitor? [emoji41]

Talk straight without the silliness.

Do you have an objection to something I said or do you have another way that it could be put?

By all means go for it. Only be clear and not childish.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Do you happen to have an extra Flux capacitor? [emoji41]

Will this do ?

 

[EmSw]

Wonder no more. I do. And you can't choose what you believe.

Why not? I, and many others, are proof you are wrong, and have an agenda.

 

[EmSw]

Well, that's not entirely true. People can choose from a plethora of false gods. They just can't choose the one true God. The Sovereign King of Creation.

Why can't we choose the one true God? Many of us have chosen the one true God. Don't let your biases get in the way of truth.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why can't we choose the one true God? Many of us have chosen the one true God. Don't let your biases get in the way of truth.

Y'SHUA, YHWH'S WORD, says even the disciples did not choose HIM.

 

[MennoSota]

Why can't we choose the one true God? Many of us have chosen the one true God. Don't let your biases get in the way of truth.

Many have been chosen by God and responded when he granted faith. You never chose God, however.
Left to our own ways we always run away from God's glory, just as Adam and Eve did in the garden.
We are like spiders dangling by a thread over the flames. Our only fate is to be burned, if not for the God who saves us from our doom. (Read Jonathan Edwards sermon, which God used to start the Great Awakening.)

 

[EmSw]

But even then, they won't chose one they think is false. Whatever they choose, they believe it to be true.

Are you accusing every Christian who does not hold to Reformed and Calvinist beliefs of choosing a false God?
Isn't there a rule on this forum about questioning one's salvation? You should probably report yourself, moderator.

 

[EmSw]

Y'SHUA, YHWH'S WORD, says even the disciples did not choose HIM.

If you don't choose Him, then you aren't His. Pretty simple truth.

 

[MennoSota]

Are you accusing every Christian who does not hold to Reformed and Calvinist beliefs of choosing a false God?
Isn't there a rule on this forum about questioning one's salvation? You should probably report yourself, moderator.

No.
We're saying you are mistaken about your role in your own salvation. You didn't do anything to pat yourself on the back about.
We're saying, stop teaching something God does not teach.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If you don't choose Him, then you aren't His. Pretty simple truth.

JOYOUSLY!!!!!. Have to trust Scripture .
Trust what MESSIAH Y'SHUA SAID, YHWH'S WORD.

"You did not choose ME, I CHOSE you."

HIS TRUTH, is better than yours, no matter if yours is pretty or simple, it's not right.

 

[MennoSota]

If you don't choose Him, then you aren't His. Pretty simple truth.

Nope. If God doesn't choose you, you're not his child. It's just like a person going to an orphanage and choosing the child to come home and be a part of their family. The orphan does not get to choose the parent. The parent chooses the orphan. This is why God tells us we are adopted in Ephesians 1. You should really read that chapter.

 

[EmSw]

Many have been chosen by God and responded when he granted faith. You never chose God, however.
Left to our own ways we always run away from God's glory, just as Adam and Eve did in the garden.
We are like spiders dangling by a thread over the flames. Our only fate is to be burned, if not for the God who saves us from our doom. (Read Jonathan Edwards sermon, which God used to start the Great Awakening.)

Just because God chooses you doesn't mean He chose you to salvation. In fact, Jesus chose a devil.

John 6:70
Jesus answered them, have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

I'm not saying God did not choose me, but I chose him back. He chose me, and I chose life. Many whom God chose did not obtain salvation.

 

[EmSw]

JOYOUSLY!!!!!. Have to trust Scripture .
Trust what MESSIAH Y'SHUA SAID, YHWH'S WORD.

"You did not choose ME, I CHOSE you."

HIS TRUTH, is better than yours, no matter if yours is pretty or simple, it's not right.

If you haven't chosen the Lord, who have you chosen?

 

[EmSw]

Nope. If God doesn't choose you, you're not his child. It's just like a person going to an orphanage and choosing the child to come home and be a part of their family. The orphan does not get to choose the parent. The parent chooses the orphan. This is why God tells us we are adopted in Ephesians 1. You should really read that chapter.

I'm born into God's family, not an orphan. Jesus said to be BORN AGAIN, not adopted. You should really read Jesus' words.

Also, if you haven't chosen God, you have you chosen?

 

[MennoSota]

Just because God chooses you doesn't mean He chose you to salvation. In fact, Jesus chose a devil.

John 6:70
Jesus answered them, have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

I'm not saying God did not choose me, but I chose him back. He chose me, and I chose life. Many whom God chose did not obtain salvation.

You are right. Yeshua also chooses to have people justly die in their sins and go to hell. In fact, we all deserve that just choice of God's, but because of His great mercy and grace, he chooses some to atone.
Grace...it's amazing.

 

[Hammster]

Why not? I, and many others, are proof you are wrong, and have an agenda.

I gave you two chances to prove yourself. You refused.

 

[MennoSota]

I'm born into God's family, not an orphan. Jesus said to be BORN AGAIN, not adopted. You should really read Jesus' words.

You were dead in your trespasses and sins. You were sentenced to hell and death. "But God....made you alive." (Read Ephesians 2:1-4)

But God. The most beautiful but I've ever seen! [emoji41]

 

[Hammster]

Are you accusing every Christian who does not hold to Reformed and Calvinist beliefs of choosing a false God?

No.

 

[bottomofsandal]

It went well - although I don't have clear vision in my left eye yet, I hope to have it soon.

Thanks for asking.

Will keep praying brother