Should Christians rest on the Sabbath (saturday) and rejoice on the Lords day (sunday)?

[parousia70]

Ask your self the same question bro, why did God rest on the 7th day? From what did God rest on the 7th day? God made the 7th day to rest and for us to acknowledge and to worship Him as our creator. ((God set an example to work 6 days and rest on the 7th day)) it's that simple. The Sabbath was made for mankind not just for the Jews brother. God bless you

Does Keeping the Sabbath save your Soul?
Does Breaking it cause your soul to be Lost?

 

[bigo1984]

Mr. Langston, please try to pay ATTENTION! Popes have never declared Sunday MUST be the day of worship. If you wish to worship on Saturday, fine. Also, Constantine was never elected Pope.

To be fair the Catholic church has changed many things. they changed worship to Sunday they also omitted the second commandment about worshiping images because they do that a lot in their Church. And when asked why they changed worship from Saturday to Sunday they said there authority supercedes the authority of the word of God.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

I wouldn't judge a Christian for wanting to rest on the Sabbath even though in my mind I don't think it's a requirement. if it's something that brings them close to God and they're able to worship God through doing that I don't see what the problem is with it

Whether people worship on Sunday or rest on Saturday and worship, God said to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. He never said, and no one who ever read the scriptures could say, it was a requirement for salvation. Or a condition for salvation. Otherwise, that would be a works based salvation and that's not what Jesus taught.

The Sabbath was made for man(people). God knows the heart of those who are his own whether they rest, worship, on Saturday or Sunday. The tragedy in this thread is the hateful rhetoric that assaults those who define Saturday as Sabbath. All manner of God's grace disappears and the primary command that Jesus taught, love one another, is not in them. That, speaks volumes.

 

[W2L]

Whether people worship on Sunday or rest on Saturday and worship, God said to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. He never said, and no one who ever read the scriptures could say, it was a requirement for salvation. Or a condition for salvation. Otherwise, that would be a works based salvation and that's not what Jesus taught.

The Sabbath was made for man(people). God knows the heart of those who are his own whether they rest, worship, on Saturday or Sunday. The tragedy in this thread is the hateful rhetoric that assaults those who define Saturday as Sabbath. All manner of God's grace disappears and the primary command that Jesus taught, love one another, is not in them. That, speaks volumes.

Colossians 2 says Sabbath is just a shadow but Christ is the reality. Same with eating ceremonial foods and eating kosher, its just a shadow. So if we are free from food restrictions we must be free from Sabbath restrictions as well.

 

[bigo1984]

Col 2 says Sabbath is just a shadow but Christ is the reality. Same with eating ceremonial foods and eating kosher, its just a shadow. So if we are free from food restrictions we must be free from Sabbath restrictions as well.

I believe the same thing but I still don't believe it's a sin for others that still want to rest on the Sabbath day. It's a similar situation to when Paul was with the Jews. The Jews didn't want to eat any unclean animal and Paul didnt see a problem with it, but because of their conviction he would avoid eating the unclean animal when he was around them just so that they wouldn't stumble in their faith.

 

[I am Redeemed]

Does Keeping the Sabbath save your Soul?
Does Breaking it cause your soul to be Lost?

Jesus saved the thief on the cross and I don't think he was a good keeper of the commandments and this is grace by God that even tho we are sinners He can save us. Keeping the Sabbath or any commandment will not save you for is Jesus that saves you, not by works... but if the thief would have to come down from the cross and now a believer in Christ as his savior and if this thief would have many more years to live then he would have to live as a good christian and keep the commandments: 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I knowe him, and keepeth not his commandements, is a lyer, and the trueth is not in him. James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. Obedience is a fruit that a christian must obtain.

 

[parousia70]

I believe the same thing but I still don't believe it's a sin for others that still want to rest on the Sabbath day. It's a similar situation to when Paul was with the Jews. The Jews didn't want to eat any unclean animal and Paul didnt see a problem with it, but because of their conviction he would avoid eating the unclean animal when he was around them just so that they wouldn't stumble in their faith.

Yes, we now have LIBERTY on the issue according to the apostles.

The strict Sabbath keepers here who falsely claim that Sunday Worship is neither scriptural nor apostolic, who condemn the Sunday Worshipers as Pagan Heretics, for sure God's grace disappears in them and the primary command that Jesus taught, love one another, is not in them. That, speaks volumes.

 

[I am Redeemed]

Those gentiles are not Christian, they were instead followers of OC Judaism. That's why they wanted to hear more about the Gospel.

you sait it they Were followers of Judaism but keep reading and you'll see that they accepted the gospel.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Colossians 2 says Sabbath is just a shadow but Christ is the reality. Same with eating ceremonial foods and eating kosher, its just a shadow. So if we are free from food restrictions we must be free from Sabbath restrictions as well.

And yet if that were true the Christian that believes it would not attend church on a Sunday.

 

[parousia70]

Jesus saved the thief on the cross and I don't think he was a good keeper of the commandments and this is grace by God that even tho we are sinners He can save us.

Agreed

Keeping the Sabbath or any commandment will not save you for is Jesus that saves you, not by works...

Again, Agreed

but if the thief would have to come down from the cross and now a believer in Christ as his savior and if this thief would have many more years to live then he would have to live as a good christian and keep the commandments:

He would HAVE TO?

So it IS a requirement for Salvation then?

 

[parousia70]

And yet if that were true the Christian that believes it would not attend church on a Sunday.

Straw man.
If this were true (and it is) the Christian that believes it would attend Church ANY day he chooses, even Sunday.

My church is open for worship in spirit and truth, and conducts services 7 days a week, 365 days a year (366 days every 4 years too)

Does yours?

 

[John Davidson]

((the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath)) Act 13:44 And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole citie together to heare the word of God. Here we see Gentiles who where now believers in Christ so that would make them Christians like you and me. If we are not to keep the Sabbath day no more then Paul should of let them know and made it clear that the Sabbath 4th Commandment is no more a day or rest and that Jesus was our new 7th day Sabbath, but we don't see that here. Instead we see that they wait it till next sabbath meaning that almost the whole city was not in business because almost every one from the city was there listening to Paul preach the gospel on a Sabbath day so you can be sure that this new believers in Christ kept the Sabbath.

Again, it doesn't say that the gentiles were observing the Sabbath. It says that they listened to the word on that day. It says nothing about them taking the day off from their labors.

 

[parousia70]

To be fair the Catholic church has changed many things. they changed worship to Sunday

No, that's not Fair. The APOSTLES gathered on Sunday to worship and collect tithing. The CC affirms and carries on this scriptural, apostolic tradition.

they also omitted the second commandment about worshiping images because they do that a lot in their Church.

No catholic Worships an image in Church any more than you worship a picture of your dead grandmother on your wall at home.

And when asked why they changed worship from Saturday to Sunday they said there authority supercedes the authority of the word of God.

Do you have a Source for this spurious claim, or did you just grasp it it of thin air?

 

[I am Redeemed]

Agreed



Again, Agreed



Would he HAVE TO?

So it IS a requirement for Salvation then?

Was it a requirement for Adam to be obedient? you see God will not force you but you need to do it because you love Him that is a difference. I don't know if you are married and have kids but let me put you an example. Let's say you are married and you have to cook for your husband and kids, you have to do laundry etc etc but you do it out of love. Your not supposed to do it as a slave or been forced to do it. God has conditions in order for you to be saved, you have to believe in Jesus to be saved right? Then you have to repent also right? but repent of what? Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Jesus saved the thief on the cross and I don't think he was a good keeper of the commandments and this is grace by God that even tho we are sinners He can save us. Keeping the Sabbath or any commandment will not save you for is Jesus that saves you, not by works... but if the thief would have to come down from the cross and now a believer in Christ as his savior and if this thief would have many more years to live then he would have to live as a good christian and keep the commandments: 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I knowe him, and keepeth not his commandements, is a lyer, and the trueth is not in him. James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. Obedience is a fruit that a christian must obtain.

Remember the scripture that tells us to test the spirits?
Jesus said, if you love me you will keep my commands.
He also reiterated 9 of the 10 commandments. The 9 commands he reiterated, remembering he said if you love him you will keep his commands, are the moral laws of God. And they all pertain to love for God and our fellow man.


If you ever in your walk encounter someone who tells you the moral law of love as it were no longer applies, nor does the Sabbath, when Jesus worked on the Sabbath but he and his Disciples also kept the Sabbath, meaning the new covenant that is still made for us, doesn't have the strict prohibitions against any labors as the OT covenant did, you're likely encountering what is known as a humanist christian.
There's a television pastor , Joel Osteen, that is such a one as that. Baptismal humanist materialist christianity is what he teaches.
People that claim you can do anything you want when you're a Christian , because the moral laws no longer apply, are following the type of teaching an Osteen puts out there.
Someone forwarded me a video of his once . He was being interviewed by Larry King who is a Jew. Larry asked if Jews would go to Heaven.Joel said it was up to God. I'm paraphrasing of course. Then Larry asked about atheists and others not Christian, and all Osteen could keep answering to the matter of how someone goes to Heaven is, I don't know.

There's a reason for that. Because an actual pastor does know how to get to Heaven. Because they have read the scriptures, they know what Jesus taught. Those who don't know teach the exact opposite. And that discernment is part of what it means to test the spirits.

Beware that teacher with vipers tongue that challenges your faith brother. Those in the love of Christ do not teach his word in the spirit of hate. That's Satan's act, not Jesus'.

 

[John Davidson]

The problem was that they were making them become circumcised in order to be saved Read Acts 15:1.

No, that was only part of the problem. Again, Acts of the Apostles 15:5 states that they were commanding them to keep the law of Moses.

May I please ask you, what is so bad about keeping Gods commandments that you spend so much effort trying to do away with them?

We are not under law we are under grace. You are attempting to bring Christians back under the law. Paul warned against this many times in his epistles, Galatians 5:4 for example. By forcing people to obey the law you are making the cross of Christ of no effect. Christ showed us the way of love through the spirit and not the letter. The law kills the spirit brings life.

 

[W2L]

I'm tired of this debate. Its so old. People hear what they want. Peace

 

[I am Redeemed]

Again, it doesn't say that the gentiles were observing the Sabbath. It says that they listened to the word on that day. It says nothing about them taking the day off from their labors.

OK, why did't Paul tell them, that they as new Christians don't need to wait till next sabbath to congregate? Now if Sunday was the new official day to congregate as a church then Paul should have said "ohh no brothers and sisters we as christians don't keep the Shabbat no more and we now keep Sunday in honor of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus" but you see we don't see this argument like many Christians do say. My bible says remember the Sabbath to keep it holy, and it is written.

 

[John Davidson]

To be clear, I'm on your side on the whole Sabbath thing, but this comment is simply unsupportable.

Scripture itself cites many examples of the apostles own flocks going astray, even into mass apostasy.

Proximity to an apostle in no way guarantees correctness of doctrine.

The ECF taught the doctrines that were directly handed down to them from the Apostles.

 

[I am Redeemed]

Remember the scripture that tells us to test the spirits?
Jesus said, if you love me you will keep my commands.
He also reiterated 9 of the 10 commandments. The 9 commands he reiterated, remembering he said if you love him you will keep his commands, are the moral laws of God. And they all pertain to love for God and our fellow man.

Mark 2:27 And hee said vnto them, ((The Sabbath was made for man)), and not man for the Sabbath:Mathew 24:20 But pray yee that your flight bee not in the winter, ((neither on the Sabbath day))