Real time or evo time?

[dad]

Of course I can, but ....

Sure.

 

[AirPo]

Sure.

I'm not telling myself that, I'm telling you that. Just another example of The HI Theory being unable to deal with reality.

 

[dad]

I'm not telling myself that, I'm telling you that. Just another example of The HI Theory being unable to deal with reality.

Tell us all something about how you can or, obviously, cannot defend the way science decides on the great great time they use in all claims of the past. 'Evo time' as this thread calls it. Dream time. Fantasy time.

For you, it's showtime.

 

[AirPo]

Tell us all something about how you can or, obviously, cannot defend the way science decides on the great great time they use in all claims of the past. 'Evo time' as this thread calls it. Dream time. Fantasy time.

For you, it's showtime.

Why not a defense of the over ten years of The HI Theory asking for science then ing it away when it's presented.

 

[dad]

Why not a defense of the over ten years of The HI Theory asking for science then ing it away when it's presented.

Unlike your invented so called theories, The bible is not invented. Nor would I dream of running away from the facts about science and evidences. Not only that, I can and do discuss them in detail when possible...when not responding to empty prating posts that some spam us with here. Maybe there is something you can learn and take away from this post?

 

[AirPo]

Unlike your invented so called theories,

The bible is not invented.

But it has nothing to do with science

Nor would I dream of running away from the facts about science and evidences.

The HI Theory makes no attempt to hide the fact that it runs away from the facts. It's the second law. Never underestimate the power of the . So, I agree, no dreaming involved.

Not only that, I can and do discuss them in detail when possible...when not responding to empty prating posts that some spam us with here. Maybe there is something you can learn and take away from this post?

HI Theory threads are empty prating spam posts. No discussion, just making thinngs up.[/QUOTE]

 

[dad]

But it has nothing to do with science

The bible does have to do with real science, yes. Man's godless fraud of a little religion falsely called science..no. Except to expose man's wisdom as a pathetic joke.

The HI Theory makes no attempt to hide the fact that it runs away from the facts.

Great, this is not the thread for you then. Here we face facts, discuss details, and get to the heart of issues, rather than wave like a little girl scout.

 

[AirPo]

The bible does have to do with real science, yes.

No, it doesn't.

Man's godless fraud of a little religion falsely called science..no.

In other words, man's so called interpretation of the Bible, AKA, The HI theory.

Except to expose man's wisdom as a pathetic joke.

Don't need the Bible to expose The HI Theory as a pathetic joke.

Great, this is not the thread for you then. Here we face facts, discuss details, and get to the heart of issues, rather than wave like a little girl scout.

No we don't. We make things up and pretend to have moral and intelectual authority.

 

[dad]

No, it doesn't.

It is a simple as belief or unbelief in God. If He and His word is true, as Jesus proved beyond any shadow of a doubt they were, then Scripture covers more than this present world and time! That has to mean that it covers science of the future and past. Don't be confused with the so called science of the present world of today and real science and knowledge. The way this universe came into being and really works as we speak is all to do with Jesus. The future and past also. All multiverses etc also. Reminds me of the old hymn 'how great thou art'! The pathetic so called science that doesn't even know this will be extinct, and immortalized as a sick joke about how far man could be confused after rejecting the truth.

In other words, man's so called interpretation of the Bible,

No such thing. The great basics are beyond interpretation. The stuff where there is room for interpretation is insignificant in the big picture. Those who have rejected some of the basics in a pretension of 'interpretation' simply try to cover their true colors with a thin coat of Christianity.

No we don't. We make things up and pretend to have moral and intelectual authority.

In science..yes, but do not include believers in the 'we' make stuff up thingie. YOU do. We don't, we accept what God told us as confirmed by Christ.

 

[AirPo]

In science..yes, but do not include believers in the 'we' make stuff up thingie. YOU do. We don't, we accept what God told us as confirmed by Christ.

and then make things up.

 

[dad]

and then make things up.

No, please don't.

 

[RealityCheck01]

If you claim a magic elevator ride and back up again miles under, ...

That is a lie, dad, because that is your irrelevant claim which I have never made
29 July 2016 dad: What looks like a lot of ignorance about geology!
29 July 2016 dad: The movement of the reactors by geographical shifts does not change the fact that the Oklo natural fission reactors existed.
And so I asked the obvious question:
8 August 2016 dad: Supply evidence for your assertion that the Oklo natural fission reactors "moved more than any other areas on earth".

I do not expect any coherent answer about the real world from you given a long list of science, questions, fantasies, etc. started on 4 August 2016 for dad.

 

[RealityCheck01]

For lurkers, here is a little picture of a sample base line and where it is --

The earth in this example goes round the sun. Measuring six months apart, from earth, looking at a distant star, we have the base line for the triangle measurement. In other words ...if time did not exist...

For lurkers, a coherent explanation from dad degrades into incoherence abut spacetime "dancing the fandango" to suit his fantasy!
15 August 2016 dad: A delusion that time does not exist at Alpha Centauri (4.3 light years away from us!).
I the real world it takes time for photons to be created and escape from a star. No time means no light from stars but we detect light from stars billions of light years away from us .

False

15 August 2016 dad: A lie about the relationship between brightness and distance being false which is basic physics - Inverse-square law.
This is a simple geometric consequence of light being emitted from a point source - its intensity reduces as the distance squared.

 

[dad]

That is a lie, dad, because that is your irrelevant claim which I have never made
29 July 2016 dad: What looks like a lot of ignorance about geology!

The claim is part of the story of Oklo as told by science, and I gave the link. Be honest RC.

29 July 2016 dad: The movement of the reactors by geographical shifts does not change the fact that the Oklo natural fission reactors existed.
And so I asked the obvious question:
8 August 2016 dad: Supply evidence for your assertion that the Oklo natural fission reactors "moved more than any other areas on earth".

Exactly. If they claim it was miles under we should expect some evidence. Obviously The point is there is none, and the science claims about what happened in Gabon are a lie.


Now start debating honestly, and do more than quote your own posts that say nothing at all, and are not even on topic.

 

[dad]

For lurkers, a coherent explanation from dad degrades into incoherence abut spacetime "dancing the fandango" to suit his fantasy!

Time exists here do you get that much? Prove it exists where the stars are, or you cannot take a little piece of our space and time and suppose it equals deep space. Let me know if we need to break it down further for you.

15 August 2016 dad: A delusion that time does not exist at Alpha Centauri (4.3 light years away from us!).
Basic physics - it takes time for photons to be created and escape from a star. No time means no light from stars but we detect light from stars billions of light years away from us .

I have no delusions at all, I simply asked what is KNOWN. Not that those who make stuff up really care. Nothing takes time unless there is time! HERE there is time and time interwoven with space a certain way. Here it takes time for light or anything else to do things. The issue is whether there is also time as we know it where stars are and what proof you have for this if you claim it!?

You are hooped.

15 August 2016 dad: A lie about the relationship between brightness and distance being false which is basic physics - Inverse-square law.
This is a simple geometric consequence of light being emitted from a point source - its intensity reduces as the distance squared.

Not simple at all out in the far reaches of God's creation where the fundamentals needed to make that inverse law valid are not shown to exist...you just believe real hard. Phooey.

 

[RealityCheck01]

Prove it exists where the stars are, ....

15 August 2016 dad: A delusion that time does not exist at Alpha Centauri (4.3 light years away from us!).
15 August 2016 dad: A lie about the relationship between brightness and distance being false which is basic physics - Inverse-square law.

 

[RealityCheck01]

The claim is part of the story of Oklo as told by science, and I gave the link.

That looks like a lie because you would simply have given the link again, dad.
29 July 2016 dad: What looks like a lot of ignorance about geology!
29 July 2016 dad: The movement of the reactors by geographical shifts does not change the fact that the Oklo natural fission reactors existed.
8 August 2016 dad: Supply evidence for your assertion that the Oklo natural fission reactors "moved more than any other areas on earth".

P.S. A link you gave is Natural Nuclear Reaction Powered Ancient Geyser

Alex Meshik and his colleagues at Washington University of St. Louis have determined that the Oklo reactor, which comprises several separate sites, ran for 30 minutes and then shut off for 2.5 hours, before starting over.
...
He explained that, after the fission process had finished, a geological shift caused the Oklo reactor to sink a few miles below the surface - where it was preserved from erosion. A few million years ago, another shift brought the uranium deposits back to the surface.

Other reactors could have turned on two billion years ago, only to have their evidence washed away in the intervening eons.

It would be interesting to know what the 2 shifts were but they are not anything that a high school child does not know about, e.g. the geological uplift of the Himalaya about 5.5 miles upward.

An often-cited fact used to illustrate this process is that the summit of Mount Everest is made of marine limestone from this ancient ocean.[10]

This irrelevant "few miles" is not what you claimed, dad: "moved more than any other areas on earth". Horizontally continents hove travelled thousands of miles. Vertically mountains many miles high have risen and been eroded.


15 August 2016 dad: A link with an irrelevant geological shift of the Oklo reactors after the fission occurred !

I do not expect any coherent answer about the real world from you given a long list of science, questions, fantasies, etc. started on 4 August 2016 for dad.

 

[dad]

15 August 2016 dad: A delusion that time does not exist at Alpha Centauri (4.3 light years away from us!).
15 August 2016 dad: A lie about the relationship between brightness and distance being false which is basic physics - Inverse-square law.

I've heard of circular reasoning, but to spam link your own posts, that have no content is a new level of inbred nonsense.

 

[dad]

That looks like a lie because you would simply have given the link again, dad. "

One link relating the miles under dunk aspect of the Oklo story is here..

"He explained that, after the fission process had finished, a geological shift caused the Oklo reactor to sink a few miles below the surface - where it was preserved from erosion. A few million years ago, another shift brought the uranium deposits back to the surface."

http://www.livescience.com/75-natural-nuclear-reaction-powered-ancient-geyser.html

It would be interesting to know what the 2 shifts were but they are not anything that a high school child does not know about, e.g. the geological uplift of the Himalaya about 5.5 miles upward.

Utterly absurd and false strawman argument. It doesn't matter what happened to some other country or mountain range! Name a spot on a range or mountain that was brought miles under and then resurfaced later? We have a specific site in Oklo, so what evidence there do you have?

This irrelevant "few miles" is not what you claimed, dad: "moved more than any other areas on earth". Horizontally continents hove travelled thousands of miles. Vertically mountains many miles high have risen and been eroded.

Yes, great things happened, but just because there may be an earthquake in Japan one day does not mean that building turned to rubble in Russia that same day was a result of that! Just because a rapid continent movement occurred after the flood sometime, does not mean every square mile of earth was dunked miles under and resurfaced as needed! Show evidence for the site, not some generalization of the sort of thing that happened on the planet.

15 August 2016 dad: A link with an irrelevant geological shift of the Oklo reactors after the fission occurred !

I don't care about when. It is part of the story so you better be able to prove it. Being protected from erosion or whatever reasons they NEED it to have been dunked is not a reason. We don't CARE what you need to have happened.

 

[RealityCheck01]

I've heard of circular reasoning,....

Insults do not hide that it is delusional to think that time stops anywhere that we observe light that requires time to be created and travel, dad, !
It needs time for electrons to emit light in atoms.
It needs time for light to travel from the center of stars to their outside.
It takes time for light to travel from a star to Earth!
15 August 2016 dad: A delusion that time does not exist at Alpha Centauri (4.3 light years away from us!).
15 August 2016 dad: A lie about the relationship between brightness and distance being false which is basic physics - Inverse-square law.

A long list of science, questions, fantasies, etc. started on 4 August 2016 for dad.