Obedience to the word of God is NOT optional -if we persist in disobedience we are not saved

[stuart lawrence]

Consciousness of sin is what the animal sacrifices could not cleanse them from (heb10:3).

But Jesus' sacrifice has cleansed us from sin consciousness & has made us perfect (heb10:14, 10).

You clearly do not understand the new covenant, nor are you prepared to listen to what you are continually told.

This is Paul writing to Christians:

But if you are led by the spirit you are not under law gal5:18

 

[Si_monfaith]

Peter tells us to seek knowledge. John tells us if we claim to be without sin and the truth is not in us. James tells us to confess our sins one to another.
Ny NT has 27 books in it, they all need to be accepted!!

All verses are truth in nt?

 

[stuart lawrence]

All verses are truth in nt?

If you believed that you wouldn't write what you do

 

[stuart lawrence]

But I Christ is in you your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness rom8:10

 

[Si_monfaith]

You clearly do not understand the new covenant, nor are you prepared to listen to what you are continually told.

This is Paul writing to Christians:

But if you are led by the spirit you are not under law gal5:18

If every verse is whole truth in the nt, probably you are going to follow 2 Corinth 11:17,18 as whole truth!

 

[stuart lawrence]

If every verse is whole truth in the nt, probably you are going to follow 2 Corinth 11:17,18 as whole truth!

Have you heard of context and reading the bible as a cohesive whole?
Scripture proves your simplistic formulae false

 

[stuart lawrence]

If every verse is whole truth in the nt, probably you are going to follow 2 Corinth 11:17,18 as whole truth!

If we( believers) claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not I us 1john 1:8

 

[Si_monfaith]

Have you heard of context and reading the bible as a cohesive whole?
Scripture proves your simplistic formulae false

You are reading it as a cohesive whole? Then you might address the issue of death caused by kge in genesis.

 

[Si_monfaith]

If we( believers) claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not I us 1john 1:8

This is written by the Lord to new converts who need to understand that they are under sin but that Jesus set them free from it by setting them free from the law (eph2:15).

 

[stuart lawrence]

This is written by the Lord to new converts who need to understand that they are under sin but that Jesus set them free from it by setting them free from the law (eph2:15).

So you agree new converts are sinners?

 

[Si_monfaith]

If we( believers) claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not I us 1john 1:8

Your understanding of bible suggests that the redemptive work of the Lord is incomplete becz according to you, kge & its curses & death are still around!

 

[stuart lawrence]

This is written by the Lord to new converts who need to understand that they are under sin but that Jesus set them free from it by setting them free from the law (eph2:15).

Jesus set people free from a law of righteousness.

If while we seek to be justified I Christ it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin?
Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed I prove that I am a law breaker
Gal2:16&17

You are justified by faith I Christ, and at the same time a sinner.

It seems you reject the words of Paul, alongside the words of peter, James and john also.

If you reject there words, you obviously will take no notice of anyone on Thi website

 

[Si_monfaith]

So you agree new converts are sinners?

We are new creation in Christ (2 corin 5:17). We were sinners but now perfect owing to Jesus' works on cross (coloss2:10).

We are Christ conscious not sin conscious.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Your understanding of bible suggests that the redemptive work of the Lord is incomplete becz according to you, kge & its curses & death are still around!

The above simply shows how little understanding you have of the gospel message

 

[stuart lawrence]

We are new creation in Christ (2 corin 5:17). We were sinners but now perfect owing to Jesus' works on cross (coloss2:10).

We are Christ conscious not sin conscious.

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We are new creation in Christ (2 corin 5:17). We were sinners but now perfect owing to Jesus' works on cross (coloss2:10).

We are Christ conscious not sin conscious.

You just admitted new converts are sinners

 

[Si_monfaith]

Jesus set people free from a law of righteousness.

If while we see see to be justified I Christ it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin?
Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed I prove that I am a law breaker
Gal2:16&17

You are justified by faith I Christ, and at the same time a sinner.

It seems you reject the words of Paul, alongside the words of peter, James and john also.

If you reject there words, you obviously will take no notice of anyone on Thi website

God sees us as righteous (roma 5:1) not sinners becz His Son died for us.

Why do you see yourself as sinner when God sees you as perfect through the blood ofHis Sin? (Coloss2:10).

 

[stuart lawrence]

God sees us as righteous (roma 5:1) not sinners becz His Son died for us.

Why do you see yourself as sinner when God sees you as perfect through the blood ofHis Sin? (Coloss2:10).

There's no point to this. Your zeal has taken over from true understanding.
God sees us as perfect while we are imperfect sinners for Christ died for our sins.

I think I should leave you to it.

I was like you once in thought. You need to grow

 

[Si_monfaith]

The above simply shows how little understanding you have of the gospel message

Bible tells how God sees us. He sees us thru the perfect works of His Son.

For the sake of Jesus blood, God sees us as perfect people.

Seeing the way God sees us thru His Son is faith.

 

[stuart lawrence]

God sees us as righteous (roma 5:1) not sinners becz His Son died for us.

Why do you see yourself as sinner when God sees you as perfect through the blood ofHis Sin? (Coloss2:10).

You just reject all the scriptures placed before you, you simply ignore them all. No point in further discussion

 

[Si_monfaith]

There's no point to this. Your zeal has taken over from true understanding.
God sees us as perfect while we are imperfect sinners for Christ died for our sins.

I think I should leave you to it.

I was like you once in thought. You need to grow

We were once imperfect & sinners. But now we are in Christ by grace (1 cori 1:30,31).

That was how we are to see & meditate & confess. Confessing sin consciousness gives birth to sin not victory.