Is there any evidence for evolution?

[Goonie]

I'm under the impression they have the KJV in their own language.

Confirmed its the real AV, accept no imitations

 

[AdamSK]

This is just mind blowing and I see it far too often on Internet Crevo debates.

Person 1 - please give a definition for kinds

Person 2 - lists a few barnyard or petting zoo beings and posts the dictionary definition for kind

It's almost as if we're speaking two different languages.



So what? Today we do and the genetic evidence shows we are related to chimpanzees via common ancestry.



Please list these "leaps in logic".

I didn't say those things.

 

[Herman Hedning]

I'm under the impression they have the KJV in their own language.

Are you talking about KJV translated into other languages, or inspired translations made by other persons using other languages?

 

[AdamSK]

Are you talking about KJV translated into other languages, or inspired translations made by other persons using other languages?

Typically KJVO people believe that each language has a particular God-given translation. Nothing special about English, KJV just happens to be the English one.

 

[AdamSK]

Definition of kinds notwithstanding, my favorite evidence is the chromosome 2 fusion site.

 

[mark kennedy]

This is just mind blowing and I see it far too often on Internet Crevo debates.

Person 1 - please give a definition for kinds

Person 2 - lists a few barnyard or petting zoo beings and posts the dictionary definition for kind

It's almost as if we're speaking two different languages.

There are two different languages involved, the Hebrew word for 'kind' is just another word for common ancestry:

מִין mîyn, meen; from an unused root meaning to portion out; a sort, i.e. species:—kind. Compare H4480. Groups of living organisms belong in the same created "kind" if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool. This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool. Information is lost or conserved—not gained. A new species could arise when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs. By this definition a new species is not a new "kind" but a further partitioning of an existing "kind".​

Used of seed bearing plants, Gen. 1:11, 12; Birds, Gen. 1:21; land dwelling creature, Gen. 1:24; Animals wild and domestic, Gen. 1: 25…etc. H4327

That's from an online Lexicon called Blue Letter Bible. Click on the Strong's Number H4327 and it will show you the actual meaning quoted above. It's nearly unbelievable, person A asks for a definition. person B provides a definition, person A complains he wants a definition. Then the whole thing spirals out of control into an abyss of fallacious personal remarks. Person A doesn't have the definition because he ignored it, not because one wasn't provided one.

The word 'genus' is synonymous with origin and 'kind' carries the same meaning. There is a reason this is in my signature:

“Gärtner, by the results of these transformation experiments, was led to oppose the opinion of those naturalists who dispute the stability of plant species and believe in a continuous evolution of vegetation. He perceives in the complete transformation of one species into another an indubitable proof that species are fixed with limits beyond which they cannot change.” (G. Mendel)
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Mendelian Genetics has always shown that there are limits being which complete transformation is limited and Darwinism has always denied it. For former is a science, the latter is a myth.

Have a nice day
Mark

 

[Herman Hedning]

Typically KJVO people believe that each language has a particular God-given translation. Nothing special about English, KJV just happens to be the English one.

Interesting, never heard that before. I do believe AV thinks English is special though, since he claims that's what Adam spoke in Eden.

 

[Goonie]

Interesting, never heard that before. I do believe AV thinks English is special though, since he claims that's what Adam spoke in Eden.

Jacobean English to be precise

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you talking about KJV translated into other languages, or inspired translations made by other persons using other languages?

The former.

 

[AV1611VET]

I do believe AV thinks English is special though, since he claims that's what Adam spoke in Eden.

Jacobean English to be precise

Yup.

 

[AdamSK]

Interesting, never heard that before. I do believe AV thinks English is special though, since he claims that's what Adam spoke in Eden.

You're kidding.

Seriously? He thinks Adam spoke English?

 

[Herman Hedning]

You're kidding.

Seriously? He thinks Adam spoke English?

That's what he says. Also that Noah built his ark in New Jersey. Interesting views to be sure.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's what he says. Also that Noah built his ark in New Jersey. Interesting views to be sure.

Yup.

 

[Herman Hedning]

The former.

In that case, I think you are mistaken. There seems to be a few translations of KJV to other languages, such as French, Spanish, and Dutch, but most of the languages of the world do not have it available.

 

[AV1611VET]

In that case, I think you are mistaken. There seems to be a few translations of KJV to other languages, such as French, Spanish, and Dutch, but most of the languages of the world do not have it available.

For the record, my pastor thinks I'm wrong as well.

 

[Loudmouth]

I would too; we are explicitly instructed that Satan can disguise himself too effectively for us to tell the difference, and that any spirit that contradicts the Gospel we have already received is not from God.

If Satan can effectively disguise himself, then how do you know that Satan did not disguise himself as the authors of the Bible?

 

[JoeP222w]

This is a poorly worded question. What is a "kind"? How would you show that two groups of animals belong to different "kinds"? Properly speaking there is no "change of kind" in evolution.

For example you share a common ancestor with other apes (this is not an insult since everyone does). That means by cladistics you are still an ape (as is every other person on the face of the Earth). No "change in kinds". Scientists can trace this lack of "change in kinds" all the way back to the earliest prokaryotes. Since the first prokaryote seems to have been a one time event when a bacteria and an archaea somehow formed a union that I definitely do not understand and I do not know if biologists understand yet.

Sorry to get off the track a little bit, can you define your terminology better?

You are believing in a lie. I am not an ape and neither are you. You and I were created in the image of God, unlike the animals.

I defined my understanding of "kind" in a different post.

 

[Loudmouth]

You are believing in a lie. I am not an ape and neither are you. You and I were created in the image of God, unlike the animals.

Where is the evidence demonstrating that these are lies?

Also, you do realize where babies come from, right?

 

[JoeP222w]

Disagree all that you want. You will still be wrong.

Thank you for at least having the guts to say that you think I am wrong. Many are too cowardly to say that nowadays in the name of political correctness.

 

[JoeP222w]

Where is the evidence demonstrating that these are lies?

The word of God. God created all things and said that they were good, indicating that there was no need for them to go through "evolution" to improve.

Also, you do realize where babies come from, right?

Of course. God is the one who creates life in the womb. The mother and father participate, but it is God who creates life.